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42 minutes ago, dcro said:

I wonder why people still talk about Crusades, but never about Cult of Reason and Reign of Terror? Same thing with inquisition vs lobotomies.

 

People are what they are. Deal with it.

Neah, those progressive minds will NEVER allow that to happen. There's always a bunch of morons who think they can brainwash people with their supreme ideology. Veganism is the new black!

23 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I literally just said this shit in the last comment.

 

Starting to sound like a socialist 

 

Yeah really getting those socialist vibes here. I’m just watch you unravel slowly from the sidelines for now 

Yeah, I know I sound like a socialist but I find this ideology - and several others - flat out repulsive. Plus there's one difference, I don't tell people what they should do, wear, eat or how to behave. Political corectness is downright pathetic. There are thousands of these social media crusaders or open-minded liberals who just can't allow people to act like they want to or say things they want to. Progressive politics is just another way to control the humanity.

Now you can laugh as much as you want to and stay in your progressive bubble

10 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

It has - it decides whether the law may be introduced or not. I'd say that with a cooperation between ruling majority politicians, president and the court the whole constitution can be thrown to the rubbish - no matter what, the law which needs to be introduced will be introduced, even against the constitution (and the conditional is just a clear courtesy on my side).

We never banished the communist officials - just to remind you, that the president who was heading the talks about joining the EU was a communist minister (and to keep things with the sport, as we are on Olympic forum, a president of Polish NOC - which wouldn't be possible if he hadn't a recommendation of the ruling communist party). And he's the only one re-elected president of Poland so far.

Whoever has majority in Parliament elects these members of the CC. This is not an independent board and only serves as extension of any ruling party or coalition. Members of Supreme Court in USA are elected for life so you can't replace them when their term runs out.

President Kwasniewski actually tried not to piss off the Church and the right-wingers too much. He was probably grateful the old communism dinosaurs weren't banished by Walesa in first place But again, Walesa had his entire legacy to lose so he made sure no lustration ever took place under his watch.

10 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

Yes, it does seem so, still the Pope Francis does quite a good job (the question is how much he is able to do with a bunch of cardinals).

Pope Francis represents the Catholic minority since South America was dominated by the right-wing military juntas which opressed the Church so most Catholics from South America are actually leaning towards the left. Most Catholics elsewhere is obviously right-wing.

8 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

What do you mean "didn't survive in power"? A communist prosecutor was elected a judge to the Polish Constitutional Court just about 50 hours ago.

The Constitutional Court has no real power in Poland. It's not the Supreme Court of USA. The guy who you talk about avoided lustration in the early 90s and it's clearly Lech Walesa's fault. But he was afraid to be exposed as communist agent in the early 70s and others profited from that. Poland is the only former communist country that never banished former officials. We should have opened the UB archives in 1989/90 like Germans did with Stasi archives but of course Walesa made sure none of that happened. Poland is reaping the fruits of that decision even 30 years later.

3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

I’m going to deconstruct this one piece by piece 

 

The Quran, like The Bible features violent themes, and doesn’t have verses that can be interrupted in a a bad way. However the main teaching of Islam is to submit to Allah (God’s will). It’s the problem with Islam is the same as Christianity. People interpret the message of the Quran differently, and it unfortunately has been used for evil. I was taught this at a Catholic school mind you.

 

I’d prefer 9/11 never happened. The same way I wish the Holocaust never happened. That the Crusades never happened. The the inquisition never happened. That the Central African Genocide never happened. Unfortunately they did, and we should learn from our mistakes, and teach our kids the correct forms of our religions. The people who drove planes into the Twin Towers weren’t Muslims. They were terrorists who’d been tricked, and fully believed in perverse teachings of something resembling Islam.

 

Admittedly this may be partially true in some aspects. I’m not atheist for the record, I’m agnostic. I choose to believe what I want based off the religious texts I’ve read and my own morals. Please do not confuse me with extremists. Our religious beliefs are probably more similar than different. I do hate the way religion controls people, and while one side of me wishes I could do the same, the other side of me (the light-side, the rational side) wishes that people can choose for themselves what they believe, and that they be given free will to choose how to live so long as it doesn’t interfere with other people’s free will.

 

I never said Islam is a book of perversion, and I’d never attack someone purely because of their faith. That war isn’t a war of religion either, so it wouldn’t matter much. Technically even if I was shot, beheaded, or otherwise “knocked off” I would live longer than 20 seconds if you take into consideration brain activity and heart beat.

 

One of the perks of Catholic schooling is a religious education. I also have had the privilege of taking with Rabbis, Monks, and Preachers. There is no such thing as “real Islam” per say, but there are definitely things that aren’t Islam. There is no “real religion” either. Religion is a series of ideas we convince ourselves is true, in order to try and justify the morbid reality of mortality. Religion is often used as a construct by those in power to plant ideas in the lower class that make them less likely to rebel, question, or challenge their leadership.

 

He was ultimately a hero and a savior so I’ll take this comparison as a compliment. His dark side took the best him for a while, and he lost his way, but ultimately his light side won out.

I don't need to speak to Monks, Rabbis or whomever else to realize religion is all about control over humanity. It's the same case as in monarchy which was largely ousted after WWI and very much so after WWII. All the decade-long Empires have fallen by the wayside y mid-20th century. The history of mankind is a history of war whether you like it or not. Reliogion is just a mean to justify the end. It dates back to ancient Egypt when some of the priests had more real power than the King (pharaoh). Humans are apex predators, they've gotten so good at developing guns they're too scared to use it. A nuclear end will get us to BC level again. 1% of the population owns 95% of its wealth & rescources. You can say religion has nothing to do with terrorism and Islam is for peace but that's the ultimate bullshit. Every religion can be used to trigger another global war in like 5 seconds regardless of the MeToo, Greta Thunberg & veganism crap. That's completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Class warfare is core to humanity's existence since day one.

53 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

@Olympian1010 Before this discussion goes further, you need to know this sentence - "the true Pole is a Catholic without all that Christian bullshit". It has nothing to do with being a "true Pole", but those who reserve for themselves such a namimg act exactly this way.

In fact I do not know, why wasn't a Polish Catholic Church separated from the Roman Church - its bishops and many believers have few common with a lessons of love given by Jesus Christ. 

Then again, why didn't the communists survive in power though? They sure didn't care about the Christian bullshit either yet lasted only 45 years before their unholy demise

8 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

People who believe in the idea of a warlike jihad aren’t Muslims. They are terrorists. The Muslim religion should be one of peace, unfortunately modern leaders in that part of world have weaponized it as a political tool. Most Muslims I’ve meet don’t feel that way.

 

Christians are just as mad. Different book, different guy, same perversion.

Who claims Muslim religion should be about peace? That's wishful thinking. Christianity is several hundred years older than Islam. I'm sure you'd prefer 9/11 was masterminded by Christians and ISIS was a Christian organization but nope. Can't spin that fact. Liberals & atheists remain enraged they don't control the humanity like the Church does and that drives them nuts. You go out on the streets of Yemen and claim Islam is just a book and a perversion and you won't make it alive in like 20 seconds   That will give you the ultimate peace test.

Funny, an atheist is teaching people what "real Islam" or "real religion" in general is. The Mad Hatter would be proud of this logic

5 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Well one thing the world definitely has too many of is religious nuts. Somebody has to put them in their place 

Try to do this with Muslims and trigger another jihad. I realize Christians must be the worst of them all for you but at least they won't cut your head off. If you want to start a global jihad then be my guest.

World Athletics can always become a dirty federation too? It's the same frickin' thing. I don't see how this name change solves anything?

25 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

 Depending on their current age, I'd like money on that.

C/K are 24/25 yo. They will continue until WOG 2022 but after that it's basically game over IMO.

Two of our female lugers ended their careers after last season. Natalia Wojtusciszyn is 26 and Ewa Kuls 28. I mentioned Staszulonek who retired in 2011 at age 26 too.

Luge in Poland doesn't offer you any money to sustain this thing called living. Sooner or later you have to get a normal job. There's like zero competition anyway, Chmielewski was men's singles runner-up in national championships last March.

2 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Poland’s program has been showing some real signs of improvement in the last three seasons. I think it might be a few years, but I can see them finding the podium if they continue to improve.

Since it's Poland we're gonna find a way to fuck this up. Ewelina Staszulonek ended her career at age 26 because our federation couldn't even hire her a coach. The two-man bob team achieved some Top 10 results last season and it's on the verge of extinction because there's no money, no coaches and hell, our federation couldn't even book them a track to train during the off-season. Nobody gives a damn about luge & bobsleigh in Poland, all the millions are pumped into ski jumping and that's all. C/K have a bigger chance of retiring before the age of 30 than a World Cup podium.

47 minutes ago, dcro said:

So you do not need a South African has-been to start golf in your country?

Guess not   Polish Golf Federation only has 5,500 active players (obviously amateurs) so we're waaay behind the eightball here. Communists closed all the golf clubs after WWII as it was deemed an "imperialist" sport

Hopefully Meronk will be easy to spot on European Tour. He's 6'6" (1.97m) tall

21 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I don’t know a single Jewish person that’s ever voted Republican. Every person of Jewish decent or faith I’ve known has been pretty damn liberal (the same goes for all younger American Muslims). I believe the statistics on the American Jewish vote (which is a good sized minority) is about 80-90% Democrat and 10-20% Republican. Obviously that can change from election to election, but most of the Jewish people I’ve known are generally actually well left in the political spectrum. There are different sects in the Jewish faith, and most American Jews belong to the more liberal ones. Also, assuming Jews automatically have money and power is some pretty old type viewpoints. 
 

Anti-Semiticism is still rather popular amongst the US right. Nazism was much more popular than it should have been in the 1930s and that’s one of the reasons why. During the “Red Scare”, Republicans like McCarthy (asshole) targeted prominent Jews in the US. They reused a lot of Nazi taking points wether they realized it or not. I think that caused the Jewish minority to shift well left in the US. Plus, unlike most Christians (at least in the US), Jews aren’t as hypocritical in their views. Most of them are vehemently against Trump, and quite a few view him as an anti-Semite.

I reckon most US Jews are secular to begin with but it's one thing that works massively in Trump's favor as his daughter married a Jewish businessman and he's more pro-Israel than a lot of these liberal Dems voters and liberal Jewish people to begin with. So Dems can't use the most obvious weapon to swing the elections. If they could somehow make Trump look like anti-Semite then he would be cooked but you simply can't because he's pushing the pile in Israel's favor like no other POTUS before him, setting up a US Embassy in Jerusalem, now talking about the legal settlements on the West Bank when the entire world thinks of them as illegal. Hell, Obama wasn't this liberal and pro-Jewish amid all his political craze. The liberal people are suddenly forced to promote "liberal Muslims" as the next great thing in politics? Like really? This idea will never overcome the decades of Jewish influence and the country's pro-Israel politics. If Obama set up the Embassy in Jerusalem he'd be praised as the progressive mind for the ages but now that Trump has done it, he's anti-semitic? Who buys this kind of nonsense?

PS. Back in the 50s the communist party were filled with Jewish people. It happened in Poland too. McCarthy is dismissed as lunatic now but you just have no idea what he saved you from - albeit short-term since the Vietnam War would have changed the political landscape anyway. Or if JFK lived long enough to win the second term you'd have never set a foot in Vietnam in first place (based on the Bay of Pigs disaster). That's for another debate though.

Adrian Meronk becomes the first Polish player in history to qualify for the European Tour. He attended Tennessee before turning pro in the fall of 2016. He finished 5th in the Challenge Tour rankings this past season with most Top 10 finishes out of anyone (one win).

34 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Except that most American Jews haven’t moved to Israel for a reason. Many of them seriously despise the decisions of the Israeli government. The Democratic Party can call them out, as long as we don’t threaten to harm Israel. A majority (55-60%) of the Democratic Party is Pro-Palestinian 

Despite all the mass shootings USA is still a safer place to live than Israel. Why would they move there? Especially when you can lock yourself in some guarded condos or whatever and avoid the real-life drama from afar.

I was always wondering whether the US Jews are in the Dems or GOP camp. As a relative minority I used to think they would support Dems but then I realized when you have money or influence then you side with GOP. So yeah, I'd say the US Jews support Republicans more often. There are no Jewish ghettos like in the blacks or Latins case and majority of the US Jews belong to the middle or middle-upper class so that suits the Republicans as well IMO.

26 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

The US (Trump puppet Mike Pompeio to be exact) has declared the illegal Israeli settlements on Palestine land to no longer be illegal/against international law. Another victory for the world's single largest peace threat, also known as Israel.

Israel is USA's enclave in the Middle East specifically created as such after WWII. There's more money being spend on Israel than even Obamacare's budget. It's a bottomless pit. Of course they will support whatever suits Israel. And the Dems can't really protest that as another silly Trump gimmick since they risk losing the Jewish votes back home.

8 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

I used to watch more American Football before I really got into Olympic (and international) sport. It’s been a few years since I’ve followed the game closely. No, I do not know Blaine Gabbart. I follow American Football enough just to know the teams doing good, and the moments of drama here and there. However, I know a good QB when I see one. I also have read articles written about Kapernick’ training.

 

As I’ve said time and time again, sports is just a more physical version of politics. Like it or not, everyone supports a team for a political reason. I wouldn’t be shocked to multiple protests at next years Olympics. The US protests at the Pan Am Games and Rio 2016 marathon protest (from the Ethiopian runner) pretty much proved that athletes can get away with it. I do absolutely agree that we should try to enjoy sport and keep politics out of it, but that’s not really a realistic goal. Even if I wished to just to watch a match/meet/games without politics, it wouldn’t actually be the same.

I despise any political effort that tries to influence a sporting event - whether it's right or left wing. I suppose that must be difficult for you to understand. If a sporting event is big enough then these political bozos will always use it as a platform to preach their lousy political message. Olympic Games are big enough everywhere in the world to be used as such and football is big enough in the USA to use it likewise. If Kaep was a table tennis player then Nike, CNN and whomever else wouldn't give a damn about his message. Not a single damn.

I agree with Whitlock and several others, Kaep doesn't want to play football anymore but wants to be a political martyr AND someone to pay for this martyrdom. He'd be best advised running for Congress tbh. He can preach his injustice message over there as long as he wants to. He's wasting everyone's time pretending to make a run at NFL in 2019.

40 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Oh god no, absolutely not. Professional sports aren’t really my thing. I’m also not big on most team sports, so I generally only know a few experts/commentators within those sports.

 

I think there are times when sport needs to get political, and times when it needs to be anything but. American Football needs change in my opinion. 
 

I think we need to stop arguing for a while because it’s clear that we can’t do it in a healthy way where we don’t constantly insult each other.

It's a sporting forum, I'm trying to talk sports. You support Kaep but then say you follow very little football so I'm lost. I'm gonna start with basics, have you actually watched him PLAY a single game? And I don't mean running 100+ yds on 15-1 Green Bay Packers or Super Bowl XLVII because that Kaep is gone and won't return in 2019 and beyond. Moreover it sure sounds like you don't even know who Blaine Gabbert is?   So yeah, all politics and zero actual sporting substance.

And I absolutely hate when politics gets involved in sports. There's enough politics in other aspects of life to leave sport out of this. And I mean everything, from Tibet flags during OG to MAGA labels from Santino Ferrucci (race car driver). Everything needs to fucking go, left-wing, right-wing or center.

22 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Never heard of that Whitlock guy. I follow very little American Football because it’s not my cup of tea. I only know Stephen Smith from some of his other outlandish arguments.

So you're basically another of these martyrs who don't care about football but wants nothing but politics in sports. It's flat out sad.

32 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Sure, no other players have been granted special workouts, but Kapernick didn’t go to that one anyways . He played the NFL well, and you can’t blame him for being smarter than them.

 

As for Stephen A. Smith, intelligence left him long ago. Like me, all he likes to do is argue. There’s often no reason to his arguments, and they often carry very little weight in the grand scheme of things. 
 

The NFL would be better off giving Kaepernick a place. They’d make a good profit off it, and attract part of a lost fan base back.

You're only as good as your last game and last time he played, he got benched for Blaine fuckin Gabbert.

Kaep is an unrestricted free agent. Any team can sign him up like right now without the media circus. NFL ain't gonna tell anyone who they should sign or not though. The numbers seem to be doing more than alright without Kaep in the league. He only attracts those social media martyrs and not genuine NFL fans IMO so there is little lost fanbase as you call it.

Btw, his agent said only 8 teams attended the high school workout. Since 25 were on-site at the Falcons place, guess the other 17 simply bailed out on the high school circus?

Yeah, I realize you know better who journalists are based on comparing Murdoch to Hitler so I guess you don't consider Smith a journalist either. What's your knock on Whitlock so I get the whole picture?

9 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

It’s the NFL’s fault. They went behind his back and made secret terms. I like to see him take control. It ended up being a rather normal workout by NFL standards, besides the extra media attention of course. He tried to help a few other free agents out as well by inviting them, so it’s a win/win/win to me.

Normal workout by NFL standards?  How many other players have been granted a special workout by the league before? (I'm not talking teams). NFL only does this at draft combine and nobody has enjoyed this kind of privilege other than Kaep. I didn't need this media show to know he wants to be a martyr and doesn't want to play football anymore. Don't take my word for it because I know what you think about Polish people but how about some black folks? Jason Whitlock has been ripping him for some time and now Stephen A. Smith has seen the light too.

https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1195866091068764160

Yeah, the circus keeps rolling. He refused to participate at the Falcons facility and went over to some high school instead. And of course the media had to be there. Like someone said on twitter, you can't have a publicity stunt without the media

Speaking of equality, will every free agent player will be granted such a media padding from now? If Dez Bryant wants to stage a workout will it be attended by the national media too? If not, then we're talking social injustice Kaep is supposedly fighting? What a fuckin' circus this is

10 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

First a shitty game against LSU, then this. It's not Tua's month.

You do realize he played on one leg most of the season? He had ankle surgery three weeks before the LSU game and they rushed him extra to play there. The lay-off period after such a surgery is 3 months for an average Joe. He still threw for over 400yds on one leg? That's not shitty.

Word is, it's a dislocated hip. That's not as bad as it could hav been. He needs to get away from Saban ASAP. Hopefully the Alabama dynasty ends with his departure now.

Presumed #1 overall pick in 2020 Draft Tua Tagovailoa has just been carted off with what looks like a serious hip injury. Fuck Nick Saban and his dynastical ass