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9 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Lukasz Szczurek throwing his name in the fight for athlete with the shittiest name for people writing about biathlon, he's joining Jakub Strcvctrckctecky, the young and annoyingly quite talented Czech.

I double up the shitty level, Szczurek means "Little Rat" in Polish

Obviously his name is basically unpronounceable for any non-Slavic throat

Team Poland for Ostersund (obvious spelling error in Michael Greis' name ).

@heywoodu  Is the little Slettemark eligible for World Cup status? I mean her mother pretty much extended her career beyond limits to keep the nation quota alive? When does it expire?

18 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

That’s all pretty of matter of opinion, with some good historical facts. I don’t think we’ll see eye to eye on this, but respect your position. 
 

My position remains unchanged, mostly because scientific research supports the initiatives I’m proposing, but your concerns are valid ones. I might even take them into consideration for part of my speech.

Science while mathematically superior takes the human element out of it. People will always know better whether it's the (un)common sense or just the option of taking short cuts or plain old stupidity. Two plus two doesn't always equal four when there's human element involved. Richard Gatling invented the machine gun in order to limit the casualties of the warfare. How did that work out? Tesla was a pacifist but his sunbeam gun was the most lethal concept this side of the nuclear bomb. And I'm not even gonna talk about the Manhattan Project members who later became opposed to their own work.

When people want to do something for the "good of the society" they often don't account for the side-effects that eventually take over. You can very quickly develop a monster you cannot control sooner or later.

Back to the "safe cannabis" stuff, I smoke cigarettes since I'm 15 so I'm sure for all the bad habits of this world (while I won't promote cannabis as "safe" by any means)  I first tried weed when I was 17yo but that was still the "forbidden fruit" craze as well. 

Good luck with your speech

26 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I hate smoking and drinking. I never plan to do either. The reason I’m for legalizing marijuana is because it’s the lesser (and technically (very technically) safer than smoking) of two evils. We also have some many people locked up for carrying small amounts of weed, and studies have shown that arrest for drugs are generally discriminatory against minorities. I don’t believe we’ll ever achieve a smoke free society, but I think we can offer “safer” alternatives, and provide methods aid in the form of addiction and safe consumption services. I’m starting to take a similar position on the gun issue too. People want guns, that’s just how it is. Let’s advertise alternatives, promote gun safety, and institute buyback programs to try and get at least a few guns off the street.

There is no "marijuana is safer" option. Besides you're not charged with DUI with a nicotine in your system but you are charged when it comes to cannabis. So, nicotine is actually the safer option when it comes to road safety unless of course you don't care about that. Better is the enemy of the good. Besides a serial cannabis user might eventually move onto a stronger and more dangerous drug. You give the cannabis finger and in due course they will take your hand supporting tons of new "safe" drugs. The widespread ban on cannabis is a history lesson from the opium wars & the morphine addiction from WWI & WWII. It's like the vaccination crisis now, some of the most deadly diseases have been erased so people forgot how it's like to die from polio or measles and claim vaccinations are no longer neccessary. Same with drug addicts who were dismissed as street junkies, prostitutes or whatever. We live in a time when you can parade as high-class drug addict and be proud of it. Cannabis is almost too common to be considered elite anymore. It's the morphine craze 2.0 only 100 years later IMO.

In USA people want guns because it's their Constitutional Right. You can't deprive society of their century-long habits. There are no millions of gun freaks in Poland because access to guns is strongly limited over here. You can buy an air gun or air pistol and that is it. You need a gun permit for everything else and it's notoriously difficult to obtain it. Smoking & drinking alcohol is the humanity's long-standing habits ever since Columbus shipped tobacco to the Old World. You're not going to change that with some federal laws or anything like that.

12 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

That’s why I’m for the legalization of marijuana, and the establishment of supervised consumption services in the United States. People are going to do drugs. That’s just a fact unfortunately, but we should at least try to offer them as much help as we can. Sydney’s supervised consumption center has been very successful. I’m surprised they had a law like this, especially knowing how much Aussies love their beers.

Drugs is a more touchy subject since there are millions of chemical combinations that can be sold as drugs. Alcohol & nicotine is pretty straight-forward, you can't just sell methanol out there in pubs. What I'm curious about is the anti-smoking hysteria and all that jazz, so you promote the so-called healthy nicotine-free lifestyle but want to legalise marijuana? So marijuana is the new nicotine? If you're against smoking in general how can you support marijuana usage in first place? I'd like to know how many of these marijuana supporters have actually smoked a single cigarette in their life?

The prohibition law is pure nonsense. It didn't work in the USA in the 30s and no way it's gonna work anywhere in 2019

Sydney allows people to drink alcohol after midnight again. It's shocking that a modern day prohibition doesn't work   These bozos needed millions of dollars lost to understand that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50581814

43 minutes ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

 

Weird that you say Water Polo when US Women are basically unstoppable and won how many international tournaments in a row?

Right. Does any channel actually broadcast water polo matches in USA outside of the Olympics?

Just now, dcro said:

 

I am not talking about USA being good or bad in sports. I am talking about Olympic athletes having unusual and unfavorable schedule due to requests from TV houses. Europe is responsible for that as much as USA.

I disagree. NBC has more power over the Olympic schedule than any European TV station and it's only to Europe's luck USA doesn't feature as much in some of the winter Olympic events like biathlon, ski jumping or cross country which are among the most popular in Europe instead.

14 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Yeah, I know. And so international authorities should just let it slide? No.

The international authorities are letting the War in Donbas slide just like they let the Georgian Invasion slide back in 2008. They won't annoy the Russian Empire too much or else more leaks will come out just like in the Salazar case. The Western world sure has some skeletons ready to fall out and they know the Russian hackers will respond in due manner.

9 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

As much as I don't appreciate TV houses controlling the schedule, Europeans are controling the schedule just as much...

Majority of Pyeongchang 2018 program was adapted to favor the European audience. Ski jumping, biathlon, cross-country skiing, speed skating, luge, nordic combined... They all had evening and even night sessions. Basically the only outdoor sport with morning sessions was alpine skiing.

In how many of these events USA had a pre-event medal favorite? Hell, even the speed skating turned out to be a complete bust as USA didn't win a single medal for the first time since 1984. How dare you compare ski jumping to athletics on the US market? 

Alpine skiing? Uh-oh! The names Vonn and Shiffrin kinda make it a more US-oriented event.

21 hours ago, heywoodu said:

I get that, but it's a bit harsh to keep blaming everyone who bans Russia instead of blaming those who are actually to blame for all of this, the Russian authorities. I don't know how much further things should go before at some point one should say "Look, this sucks badly for innocent athletes as well, but this has got to be stopped and resolved."

 

There's not really a 'good' way to go about all it, but just banning athletes who have actually been caught makes the whole Russian system get away with it.

Bullshit. Nobody in the Russian political system will apply this logic. They will play the martyr card and claim the Western world is out there to destroy them & their sport. Just look at the War in Donbas. Hell, how about the plane shot down by the Russian missile. Russia has never taken responsibility for arming the pro-Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine and you expect them to feel sorry for the innocent athletes. You need to learn a thing or two about the Russian Empire mindset. They will never show a sign of weakness like that. Never!

Athletics, swimming and probably gymnastics will be held in USA evening prime time so you don't have to look far to see how NBC is holding the entire IOC hostage. Nobody gives a flying fuck about Europe and the rest of the world. The only thing that matters is US viewers. Talk about equal rights here

9 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Kenya needs to be punished severely too. I think that after this Russia business is over, WADA should do the following: Give nations a chance to come forward and confess to doping (for a reduced punishment), after that opportunity passes, any country with a proven systemic doping problem is banned from international sports for a decade (that includes all athletes clean and unclean).

Collective responsibility will lead into widespread boyotts of sporting events therefore politics will win again. I thought we learned something from 1980/1984 but maybe you thing these OG boycotts was the best thing that ever happened? Not to mention clean athletes will sue this decision in interntional courts citing discrimination (which in general is very popular lately). Hell, UK athletes want to sue the federation over sponsorship deals as we speak (not allowing non-Olympic sponsors to be marketed around the Olympics). At the end of the day nobody will pay attention to actual doping but political battles in court will take over the news. And this kind of a shitstorm will only help the doping cheats because the focus will be shifted elsewhere. Besides what number will prove a systematic doping? 20 athetes get caught and that's enough? Or like 50? Or maybe we need one mega star like Marion Jones in the BALCO scandal? The Russian witch hunt was aso fuelled by meldonium which is only banned in USA but wasn't banned in Russia. How about WADA gets their act together first? I know you're pushing for the renewal of the Cold War but do we really have to sacrifice the global sport for this? Hell, you're advocating for a thing Donald Trump would be proud of despite the fact you despise the guy. I'm sure Trump would love Russia & China perma-banned from every single sporting event for the next 30 years. Yeah, that would solve the doping problem Like the Lance Armstrong scandal has wiped away the doping in cycling

2 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

As there should be. We caught them first time. I would have been fine with Russia if they really did at least make an attempt to clean up their act, but they did the exact opposite of that. Now, all the athletes beaten by doping Russians get justice. Plus, we should make an example of Russia.

The Cold War is over besides that won't stop anyone from doping tbh. Kenya is crawling up the line and there's like zero chance anyone takes them out. Bulgaria got banned for widespread doping in weightlifting and nobody thought about banning the entire nation from the Olympic Games.

6 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I just don’t mind Americans coaching Chinese teams, but I do mind the Chinese government telling Americans how to speak and act.

Right, USA is the global policeman after all. And I'm pretty sure Shani Davis won't be posting any tweets about Hong Kong

2 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

The difference being that he’s employed by the Chinese Federation itself, and NBA stands for (National Basketball Association) and is mean to be an American business held to American standards.

So, an US individual shouldn't be held to American standards but an US company should be? What kind of a twisted logic is this?

Guess Davis doesn't give a fuck about the Chinese government then? Makes the NBA drama look even more ridiculous

34 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Which is odd quite frankly because catholic (and Christian) principles are almost identical. In Catholic education we glorified the idea of socialist, and taught about the dangers of becoming a socialist state (hence why I’m democratic socialist). Having fans amongst people of no faith is good for the church. Religion around the world is shrinking (and those religious institutions know it)

I don't believe Islam is shrinking much tho even the Western world seems to believe Catholicism is the pure evil while Islam is all about peace. Besides, what is going to replace the power of the religion? Socialism is just a mellow version of communism and those who preach its superiority right now have actually never endured the communist rule so they have no idea what they wish for. Socialism can work in a country like Norway with 4 million people and oil resources but it won't work in a country like USA with 300+ million people. You will go bankrupt within 20 years if socialism becomes your ruling option.

Btw, I never accused you of lying, just being a blind fool of the socialism superiority. Meanwhile you spreading lies about me wanting to jail LGBT people have been exposed & confirmed.

13 minutes ago, LDOG said:

 

This is not correct. Military governments had largely the support of the church. The military didn't exactly opress the church, quite the contrary, the military were very catholic and had deep conections with church's top hierarchy. In fact, being an atheist back those days inmediately made you a suspect to them.

 

There was, however, a minority branch inside the church of priests that were left leaning/dedicated to social justice and were arrested/kidnapped/executed during that rule. The pope during those times was kind of in the middle, he wasn't part of the top hierarchy that supported the military and was clearly right-leaning, but wasn't either part of the leftist branch.

 

The catholic church in south america is heavily right-wing still to this day. The pope is kinda an exception to be honest, and even then, he became more leftist after being elected (to the surprise of many catholics here).

 

It's obvious the current Pope will not sustain his vision of the Church. Majority of the Catholics around the world are not left-wing and his actions have more fans among atheists & those progressive minds who are glued to the Church's actions like they have nothing better to do in first place

I might as well ask if South America has banished the ghosts of the military juntas or keeps cycling through them like Poland does with former communists still being present in the public life & political offices?

11 minutes ago, LDOG said:

This guy wants us to believe he's some apolitical nihilist but he's so obviously a closet conservative  

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

That closet door isn't closed...it's not even there  

What's so funny about that?   I've said numerous times socialism & the progressive bubble is not my thing

4 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

And I’d rather be person who cares for people rather than someone incapable of giving a shit about the bigger picture. I’d rather aim for a more “perfect” society than settle for what we have.

Perfect society is a myth. But you're not even contesting that you're telling lies about my opinion on LGBT. So you know you are a liar and just got exposed.

3 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But conservatives aren't exactly known for telling truths. Not hard truths, not soft truths. The Republicans in the US are at this very moment working hard to prove that over and over again, as we've seen in the past few weeks.

Politics serves one chief purpose only - control humanity. Both liberals & conservatives do that. The US two-party system helps this very much as these people have no viable option to choose from. And guess what, Democrats are very happy about that system too.

9 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

You always say that you don’t care what people do, but you obviously care because you complain about practically everyone in my generation. I do prefer “Great Thunberg” myself to be quite honest. I to believe that the climate is fine and that’s why we have massive fires everywhere, and then way to much snow so early in the season.

 

Yes.

 

I too love letting criminals get away with their plans.

 

Except that you do “I don’t care what gays do, it should just be allowed to stay illegal.” I don’t know why climate change became a partisan issues. It’s one of the few issues that should be inherently bipartisan. I guess the human race is a waste of time though. 

 

This says it all. It’s exactly what I was about to post about you and ultra conservative values.

You keep making all the wrong assumptions time & time again. I never said homosexuality should be illegal. You're spreading lies here and that's exactly why I will never support "your generation" and all the socialism bullshit. I'd rather be a conservative telling the hard truth rather than a progressive liberal telling politically correct lies

4 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Oh! You caught me! You’ve discovered my master plan. I’ve been trying to brainwash all of humanity with my talk about how we can improve humanity. Just hate that my secret is out. EXCEPT THAT NONE OF THAT IS TRUE!

 

 Is actually the best reaction to that statement. I mean what!?

 

This one is...special..., to say the least. So headcount, you dislike/hate liberals, progressives, socialists, communists, vegans, Muslims, Jews, gays, and atheists; and I’m pretty damn sure I missed some. So really my question is, who do you like? I mean there’s not a lot of (non-white) options left on the board here. 
 

You misspelled correctness, which says a lot about the statement to be honest . “Plus there's one difference, I don't tell people what they should do, wear, eat or how to behave.” Except that you do constantly ?. Again, asking people to be better humans (not being racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc.) isn’t really trying to control people. If your kid insults a guest in your house, you remind them how to behave, it’s the same principle.

Excuse me, where do I tell people how to live? I don't tell people to avoid meat "to make the planet" better. Yeah, Great Thunberg is a puppet and her eco mission is total fraud but I understand progressive minds of this world will spin it into a political profit. Someone wants to wear a real fur? Be my guest. Trump sucks? Then frickin' vote for someone else instead of triggering the impeachment circus because you can't have a normal campaign. Just because I dislike something I don't try to make people think or behave otherwise. Meanwhile people living in the progressive bubble will be fighting their eco liberal wars on twitter and claim victory by default. I'm not going to join that nonsense but I' not gonna protest on the street "to make the world better". That's a waste of time.

You make a horrible assumption from the start. However since you consider my country as racist then it's a lost cause. I'm not trying to convince the unconvinced. Neah, if the kid calls out someone with the 'n' word his parents will forever be dismissed as racists and the case is closed. So much for these progressive principles.