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Kalla's making a run late on 3rd leg... Jacobsen looks cooked...

van der Graaf has completely fallen apart on the first leg

32 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

1) Takanashi severely declined already despite being 2 years younger than Lundby

2) Vogt won her last title in 2017, when she was as old as Lundby is now

3) Althaus is 2 years younger than Lundby

Please don't let facts disturbe you ...

First you say Takanashi is the greatest female ski jumper of all time and then you say about her severe decline at age 22  

The facts are Lundby is an Oympic & world champion now. And judges in ski jumping are notoriously biased since like FOREVER. You've reinvented the wheel. Seyfarth got 1,5 less from the Austrian judge today just to make sure Iraschko-Stolz gets a medal

31 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said:

Overall World Cup 2013/14: https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/ski-jumping/cup-standings.html?sectorcode=JP&seasoncode=2014&cupcode=WC&disciplinecode=all&gendercode=L&nationcode=

As you can see, in contrast to what is generally thought, Vogt did not come out of nowhere in Sotschi. She did not win because she was suddenly better than during the World Cup. She won because Takanashi was significantly worse than during the World Cup. 

 

Same during the World Championships 2015. Only at the WC two ago she came from an outsider position.

Takanashi is a well-known choker at the big events, basically the female Schlierenzauer. Vogt didn't come out of nowhere but neither did Lundby who actually led in Lahti after the 1st round. This time she's learned how not to throw it away but she won the Olympics before that already. She's got more staying power and definitely avoids the choking bug that has plagued Takanashi.

4 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said:

I'm a bit angry. That's undeserved. I'm sorry, but it is. Lundby almost fell down in the first round and got way to high marks. 

It wasn't as bad as yesterday tbh. But Althaus two-foot landing cost her the gold, she couldn't do anything about the wind compensation in the 2nd round.

Lundby wins by 0,5 point! Wind compensation made the difference and Althaus landing on two feet in the first jump.

Lundby utterly dominates the World Cup for the last two seasons so I doubt she's going anywhere given her age. She's like the Takanashi who actually wins the big events too! Althaus can't win anything since mid-December now

Lundby, Althaus & Seyfarth have some breathing space after 1st round.

Karpiel 21st Rajda 34th.

97.5 for Karpiel which should be good enough for 2nd round!

Rajda 91.0 meters.

They might have reached a new low in quals. Sankey & Lussi got beaten by a girl from Hungary. Geraghty-Moats DQ.

It will be a huge success for either Rajda or Karpiel to make the 2nd round!

20 minutes ago, Kirkpatrick said:

What's more likely, Norway to get remaining 4 gold medals in cross-country, or Germany to completely sweep NK/Ski jumping gold medals?

The first. Lundby & Riiber can still spoil the latter tbh.

3 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

At least it was quite an awesome race, like yesterday. Excellent world championships so far

If you like another Norwegian Nationals disguised as World Championships it's truly excellent indeed. Now we need two relays for Norway and let's face it, the 30/50 mass starts will probably be all Norway again   Not to mention this Seefeld course is rather flat and uninspiring at best.

Meh result. We don't need old-timers winning gold

Pays-Bas!!! That name always makes me smile

Just now, Kirkpatrick said:

"Come on!" Shuddap, Mike.

Anti-Russian propaganda in England? How shocking!

Bib number helped Sundby a lot.

22 minutes ago, Kirkpatrick said:

Anyone knows why Ustiugov didn't race this one? Banned? Or just resting for relay-50k?

He skipped the 15 classical in Lahti WC too. Just not good enough in this style IMO.

Niskanen

The course is embarrassingly soft. I wonder if this hampers the later seeds?

Nope

5 minutes ago, phelps said:

 

Helene Marie Fossesholm...

They just have to get rid of Wengs & Jacobsens first

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Don't get me wrong, obviously she has the talent to do it, I just think the step to actually dominate is so big it's more likely she won't do it (even though I'd be surprised not to see her fight for overall World Cup wins at some point).

Given her junior results, she's a versatile all-arounder, sprints, 10k & skiathlon, she can do it all. Norwegians ain't getting any younger, Johaug will be 33yo during the next WCh, Oestberg is okay but was never dominant and Weng is just falling off the cliff now. They have Skistad but they need to find another junior to cover for the veterans. Of course they can find one but Karlsson has a head start already.

Just now, heywoodu said:

Right, because if one young athlete goes on to dominate after an impressive performance, every young athlete will go on to dominate after an impressive performance?  

Not everyone but Norway & Sweden have a clear edge when it comes to nursing a world class talent.

2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Nah, way too early to say Karlsson will dominate  I'd say it's a lot more likely she won't, the step from this to domination is still rather big.

Right, because Johaug winning bronze in Sapporo 2007 was NOT a sign of things to come?

Really happy for Karlsson! In two years time she could dominate these events

Maes has scored World Cup points already so he's ready to make the transition methinks

1 hour ago, intoronto said:

Jones competed at the Scotties this week.

I don't know that but if she's not in Top 3 that means she's lost her mojo? I can only speculate how that team changed over the years. The girl who won the mixed gold in Pyeongchang is on her team? Or is she from another rink?