Totallympics Annual International Song Contest 2020

[OlympicIRL 4,770]

Oh and of course the traditional Czechoslovak trophy which @hckosice will be trying hard to defend again tomorrow . 

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15 minut temu, Olympian1010 napisał:

Spain 12

Spain 12

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21 minut temu, OlympicIRL napisał:

I wonder what memorable TISC moments we will make tomorrow. What are some of your fondest, clearest, most fun memories of past contests?

 

Some things that immediately come to my mind....

 

• The tangerine discussion
• The time when G.B. awarded gold, silver and bronze to the only 3 nations without a medal
• The thousand times that x nation cried about their lack of points before scoring a heap of points in the next vote, a famous TISC tactic
• Those one-by-one votes to decide the winner that we saw only on 3 occasions so far in TISC history
• Our usual discussions about food in between the voting sessions

 

• New Zealand and Lithuania giving high point to each other
• Penguins spoiling the voting
• Mentioned before "Spain 12"

[dcro 10,182]

5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

Every single time it comes from frustrated people who've sent non-English songs and aren't satisfied with their points total, even if the song is just considered not great in general. There are indeed non-English songs that actually are good and do get quite a lot of points.

 

Ehm... I compiled detailed analysis on this. It clearly shows that English songs on average tend to collect about 50% (!) more points than the non-English songs.

 

Average points-per-jury (2013 Open - 2019 Open)

English songs - 2.77

non-English songs - 1.80

 

50% is just too much. Even statistical tests strongly suggest that this is not some random outcome, but rather a clear sign that English songs get better results.

 

And before you say "There are many more non-English songs". That's not really the case. About 40% of all-time songs are in English.

 

But if we narrow that pool...

Percentage of English songs in the Top 10 - 68%

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4 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Ehm... I compiled detailed analysis on this. It clearly shows that English songs on average tend to collect about 50% (!) more points than the non-English songs.

 

Average points-per-jury (2013 Open - 2019 Open)

English songs - 2.77

non-English songs - 1.80

 

50% is just too much. Even statistical tests strongly suggest that this is not some random outcome, but rather a clear sign that English songs get better results.

 

And before you say "There are many more non-English songs". That's not really the case. About 40% of all-time songs are in English.

 

But if we narrow that pool...

Percentage of English songs in the Top 10 - 68%

Maybe the entered English songs are simply better, on average  

 

They sure are better than (most) Dutch songs I can think of.

[dcro 10,182]

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Maybe the entered English songs are simply better, on average  

 

They sure are better than (most) Dutch songs I can think of.

 

Maybe. And there is also the fact that English-speaking nations tend to have more famous artists/songs.

 

But anyway, my conclusion kind of was that while you are not guaranteed to get a personal best with an English song, you can probably expect better average placements if you enter them in a longer run...

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38 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said:

 

• Those one-by-one votes to decide the winner that we saw only on 3 occasions so far in TISC history

 

 

@hckosice we're counting on you to make it 4

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Very good opening ceremony @dcro

 

Lovely country I need to visit when I have the chance. I only passed through it on my way from Budapest to Venice, but now I see you have many places to visit.

 

See you everyone tomorrow. Best of luck to each song.

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2 hours ago, heywoodu said:

 

Every single time it comes from frustrated people who've sent non-English songs and aren't satisfied with their points total, even if the song is just considered not great in general. There are indeed non-English songs that actually are good and do get quite a lot of points.

That doesn’t change the fact that many of the winners are English language songs, and most of the top 10 all-time are also in English.

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2 hours ago, Wanderer said:

Everyone expecting another 12 to Romania from Moldova 

No, Spain 12.