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6 minutes ago, dcro said:

Willis Feasey is wearing a suit in his FIS picture?

He is. I'm actually used to this sight, military colleges in USA have athletes pictured in suits as well (during NCAA football games I watch).

Luca Aerni trolling for another AC medal?

16 minutes ago, Andry84 said:

You are completely wrong, what are you saying? , 2 or 3 seconds better than the other and 3 or 4 seconds better than Brignone in 1 slalom run.... Probably,I hope for you surely it's the first time yoau are watching alpine skiing..... For sure Shiffrin, Gisin and Vlhova, without going out, will be on the podium, but they usually have less than 2 seconds over Brignone with the same track (Brignone today doesn't start with 31 bib, but with 1, and in slalom is completely another story). 

Brignone for sure will go full gas and I think there will be good chances to go out or do bad mistakes, but it's the only thing she can do. 

Brignone should be able to keep 0,97 ahead of Holdener but it's improbable she holds off Shiffrin, Gisin & Vlhova who are inside 0,40. This smells like a 4th place result for Brignone most likely save for some DNF.

Shiffrin 3rd, Vlhova 7th.

Gisin 0,26 behind Brignone but Holdener 0,97 behind.

Two errors for Bassino in Super G and that looks like another bad day for the hosts unless Brignone takes a different line on the top.

2 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

1) There is a difference between having no depth and being non-existent (which is what you said). Also they have other good athletes (Hynne, Moen, Grovdal, Henriksen, Guttormsen). Norway could realistically win as many medals at the Olympics as Poland and more medals than France.

 

2) It is difficult to develope 2 world-class players, they have more/as many world-class players than Poland/ItalyTurkey/Russia/Nigeria/Mexico/Colombia/Chile. We will see how they will do in the future once Haaland and Ödegaard are more mature.

 

3) Not sure if you are kidding ... you mostly named joke sports. Norway also is good in handball (which is probably the 4th or 5th most popular summer team sport) and chess ... 

It is obvious that Norway can’t have the same depth as bigger nations, but they are amazing at developing special talents.

You wanted to know why Norway developed speed skaters lately (unlike Germany) to begin with. I suppose you wandered so much in trying to prove me wrong you forgot what I was originally responding to I'm impressed you managed to feature Nigeria in a thread about speed skating

Good thing van der Poel isn't a Russian or else we'd have instant doping allegations

Hauser's gone for silver indeed.

Hauser will probably outski Wierer for bronze.

44 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

1) Norway non-existent in athletics?

2) Norway has 2 amazing football players, I think they could qualify for some tournaments in the future. Also i think it is difficult to be good at football when you can barely ever play it outside ... (although Iceland has done an amazing job)

3) There are a lot of other „comparable“ countries that aren’t (much) better than Norway while being much worse in winter sports (Portugal, Israel, Ireland, Singapore, Belgium, Greece). I think for their size Norway is actually doing a good job in summer sports.

1. Ingebrigtsen family and Warholm isn't exactly depth by international standards. Same as having Hattestad and Rodal in the 90s.

2. Yeah, two amazing players in the whole country. Just because half of Europe can qualify to Euro finals these days it doesn't mean anything - and Norway actually failed to qualify to begin with

3. Ireland has gaelic football & rugby and Belgium has cross cycling at the very least. Also motor racing/ motocross in Belgium which doesn't qualify under any Olympic standards.

If it's flat then weight should play a bigger factor (i.e. Vlhova performs better than recently and ofc Shiffrin). Bassino and Worley are rather lightweight skiers, they can indeed struggle on a flat GS course.

6 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

How the hell would Ertl make the team? Germany didn’t nominate anyone in giant slalom, because they have pretty strict standards. In order to make the team Ertl would have to be good enough to regularly make top 30, which is completely unrealistic.
 

Most nations have the same problem. USA has Shiffrin and Johnson, Norway has Lysdahl and Lie, Slovakia only has Vlhova, Canada has Gagnon, Slovenia has Stuhec and Hrovat, Sweden has Hector, Finland has no one, France has Worley. The only nations with any depth are Austria, Switzerland and Italy. I am not saying that Germany has great depth, but that it is unrealistic to expect Germany to have great depth and that Germany basically never had great depth, except for a short exception in (giant) slalom. Meanwhile the men’s speed team is easily the best it has ever been.

Most teams have regressed over the last 10+ years, it more or less started with French women's speed team, then Canadians went off the boil and hell, Austria has the worst depth on the women's side since I started watching alpine skiing. I believe the sport has gotten too expensive overall and even the traditional nations don't want to spend that much money anymore. USA & Canada have drifted into big success in freestyle skiing and quite frankly Germany is doing better in snowboard than alpine skiing as well. The rise of freestyle skiing in the last decade or so has shallowed the talent pool for alpine skiing IMO.

5 minutes ago, Dennis said:

So are Brittany Bowe and Martina Sablikova for example, who are both older than Fatkulina. 

Yeah, but sprinters are more vulnerable with age? Erbanova retired way too early for whatever reason. Sablikova will be winning WCh medals until she's 40yo and Bowe probably keeps going until she wins an individual Olympic medal (while Richardson also retired prematurely). I imagine Leenstra was feeling the heat from Dutch competition and she was never a pure winner to begin with. Always behind someone's back.

No meltdown... Jacquelin was in Wierer mode there.

Just now, JonPhi said:

2010 might be the last one.

Well, Bassino wasn't even in high school back then?

Still can't rule out a total meltdown on the last shoot

Cortina doesn't host GS races on World Cup so I can't really say that Bassino is looking vulnerable?

I see Olga Fatkulina is still winning WCh medals even after the age of 30

21 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

Yes, really surprising, especially after you said that that German women’s team is a disaster. Now Germany has 3 silver medals while Norway, Italy, France and the US have 2 Bronze medals combined.

German's women "team" is Weidle & Duerr   Martina Ertl could probably make the 2021 Giant Slalom team if she wanted

And he's somehow up on his feet. I thought ACL is gone after the ski jammed the joint.

Well, it gets from bad to worse for Italy as Schieder looks to be injured badly.

3 minutes ago, Gianlu33 said:

Bearing in mind the premises and the season that is ending, these world championships are a disaster for Italy

Bassino can't choke in GS that much? But anything other than gold would be a disappointement for her.

Muzaton with a Watts moment right there

Mayer blows it with an error too. And then goes out alltogether.