Totallympics Open International Song Contest 2024

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 Totallympics Open International Song Contest 2024

 

 Totallympics Forum - 25 August 2024 - 10 November 2024 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Official Schedule
Until Saturday, October 26th: British Summer Time (UTC +1)

From Sunday, October 27th: Greenwich Mean Time (UTC +0)

 

Sunday, August 25th

23:00 National Jury Registration Window Open

 

Sunday, September 1st

14:00 National Song Entry Selection Window Opened

 

Tuesday, October 1st

23:58 National Jury Registration and National Song Entry Window Closed

 

Wednesday, October 2nd

00:00 Host Jury Voting Window Open

 

Wednesday, October 2nd

23:58 Host Jury Voting Window Closed

 

Thursday, October 3rd

00:00 National Jury Voting Window Open

 

Wednesday, October 23rd

23:58 Festival of Music begins

 

Thursday, November 7th

20:00 Voting Order Draw

 

Friday, November 8th

20:00  Opening Ceremony 

 

Saturday, November 9th

23:58 National Jury Voting Window Closed

 

Sunday, November 10th

08:00 Totallympics Open International Song Contest 2024 Grand Final

 

Sunday, November 10th

20:00 Closing Ceremony

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Participating Nations

 

 

Nation	Jury Members	Artist - Song	Video	Voted
Albania	@Erigert	Dua Lipa - New Rules
Argentina	@konig @LDOG	Miranda! - Fantasmas
Brazil	@brunamoura	Hateen - Perfeitamente Imperfeito
Bulgaria	@Federer91	Sevi - On My Own
Canada	@Topicmaster1010	Gordon Lightfoot - Carefree Highway
Chile	@ManuCHIL	Los Bunkers - Bailando Solo
China	@Vic Liu	Guo Ding - The Fog Space
Czechia	@Hipooo	Mikolas Josef - Acapella
Denmark	@Wumo	Stoffer & Maskinen - Vi To Er Smeltet Sammen
France	@Bohemia @Benolympique	Yseult - Corps
Great Britain	@Cinnamon Bun	Maximo Park - Apply Some Pressure
Greece	@Makedonas @maestro	Nama - Odysseas
Guatemala	@Fer GUA	Sara Curruchich - Somos
Hungary	@Vektor	Platon Karataev - Atoms
India	@Fly_like_a_don	Celina Sharma and Emiway Bantai - Lean On
Indonesia	@Griff88	Glenn Fredly - Sekali Ini Saja
Ireland	@OlympicIRL	Chris de Burgh - A Spaceman Came Travelling
Italy	@Henry_Leon @SteveParker @Pablita	Mango - La Rondine
Lithuania	@Werloc	GJan - Neleisk Man Užmigt
Malta	@Glen	Jason Derulo feat. Ira Losco - Colors
Mexico	@mrv86	Playa Limbo - Piérdeme el Respeto
Moldova	@Ionoutz24	Terra Blvck & Dekay ft. M.I.M.E. - Stacks
Netherlands	@heywoodu	Danny Vera - Roller Coaster
New Zealand	@Wanderer	The Swingers - Counting The Beat
Poland	@rybak	Żywiołak - Sol Invictus
Portugal	@kungshamra71	António Variações - Canção do Engate
Romania	@IoNuTzZ	Andra - Love Can Save It All
Serbia	@NikolaB	Hornsman Coyote & Jah Mason - Belly Of The Beast
Slovenia	@justony	Magnifico - Hir aj kam, hir aj go
Spain	@Cobi	David Bisbal & Sebastián Yatra - A Partir de Hoy
Sweden	@Belle	Europe - The Final Countdown
Tunisia	@amen09	Ghalia Benali - Lamouni
Turkey	@Memo	Yavuz Çetin & Erkan Oğur - Dünya
Ukraine	@avlar	Brunettes Shoot Blondes - Knock Knock
United States	@dezbee2008	Sufjan Stevens - Chicago
Total Jury Members 41		Total Nations 35

 

       

 

 

Final Voting Order

 

 

Position	Nation	Voting time (GMT+0)	Voting time (Jury time)
1	France	08:00	09:00
2
3	Sweden	08:30	09:30
4	Ireland	08:45	08:45
5	Greece	09:00	11:00
6	Slovenia	09:15	10:15
7	New Zealand	09:30	22:30
8	Italy	09:45	10:45
Breakfast (10:00 - 11:00)
9	Malta	11:00	12:00
10	Poland	11:15	12:15
11	Denmark	11:30	12:30
12	United States	11:45	06:45
13	Turkey	12:00	15:00
14	Argentina	12:15	09:15
15	China	12:30	20:30
16	Indonesia	12:45	19:45
17	Spain	13:00	14:00
Lunch (13:15 - 15:00)
18	Guatemala	15:00	09:00
19	Mexico	15:15	09:15
20	Netherlands	15:30	16:30
21	Albania	15:45	16:45
22	Portugal	16:00	16:00
23	Great Britain	16:15	16:15
24	India	16:30	22:00
25	Czech Republic	16:45	17:45
26	Romania	17:00	19:00
27	Canada	17:15	12:15
Tea / Dinner (17:30 - 19:00)
28	Tunisia	19:00	20:00
29	Lithuania	19:15	21:15
30	Serbia	19:30	20:30
31	Chile	19:45	16:45
32	Bulgaria	20:00	22:00
33	Moldova	20:15	22:15
34	Brazil	20:30	21:30 (the jurors is currently in Sweden so operates on that time, otherwise it would be 17:30)
35	Hungary	20:45	21:45

 

 

 

Edited November 10 by Sindo

[Cinnamon Bun 896]

Charter and Official Rulebook

 

 

 

 

SECTION 1 - SONG CHOICE AND ELIGIBILITY:

 

1. (a) All songs must be released on or before December 31st, 2019, in keeping with TISC Open rules whereby songs released in the last 5 years are ineligible to compete.

 

1. (b) All songs must be ORIGINAL to the nation for which they are competing. In other words, if a song is a copy or cover of an original song by an artist from another nation, then it is ONLY permitted to participate for the nation of the artist who produced the original version. If the artist of the cover version is from the same nation as the original artist, then the cover version must fulfill rule 1(a) in order to be eligible to participate.

 

1. (c) Songs that competed at Eurovision shall be excluded from competing at TISC. However, songs which competed in a national final but were not put forward to represent their nation at Eurovision may be selected to compete at TISC.

 

 

SECTION 2 - ARTIST CHOICE AND ELIGIBILITY:

 

2. (a) Artists chosen to represent a nation must have been born in or be of the same nationality as the nation for which they are participating OR they must have more or equal association with that nation.

 

2. (b) In the case of bands, at least 50% of the band must be born in or be of the same nationality as the nation for which they are participating OR they should have more or equal association with that nation.

 

2. (c) For the purposes of the Totallympics International Song Contest, the same concept of nationality as that used by the IOC (International Olympic Committee) will be adopted. So, for example, artists from Scotland must represent Great Britain, artists from Faroe Islands must represent Denmark, etc.

 

 

SECTION 3 - NATIONAL JURY VOTING:

 

3. (a) National juries may consist of a single jury member OR a multi-member jury made up of two or more users from that nation.

 

3. (b) National juries must send their votes in SECRET (via private message) to the host organising member(s) of the song contest as requested during the designated voting window.

 

3. (c) National juries must submit their song entry on the official TISC thread for that edition within the designated song entry selection window as designated by the host organiser(s). National juries who fail to submit their song within the required time frame are at risk of disqualification from the contest.

 

3. (d) Each jury member in a multi-member jury shall send their individual preferences in SECRET (via private message) to the host organising member(s). The votes from each of the members of the multi-member jury will be combined to form a single set of votes which will represent the overall voting preference of that national jury. In this way, the votes from each of the participating national juries, whether single or multi-member juries, will hold equal value or weight.

 

3. (e) National juries will use the following voting format:

• (i) Jury members will award points to their 12 favourite songs in ascending manner from points 1 through 12 (inclusive) with the first preference receiving a maximum score of 12 points, second preference receiving 11 points, third preference receiving 10 points, and so forth until the song of 12th preference which will receive a single point. See below scoring table for reference:

 

 

 

1st Preference	12 pts
2nd Preference	11 pts
3rd Preference	10 pts
4th Preference	9 pts
5th Preference	8 pts
6th Preference	7 pts
7th Preference	6 pts
8th Preference	5 pts
9th Preference	4 pts
10th Preference	3 pts
11th Preference	2 pts
12th Preference	1 pt

 

 

• (ii) In single member juries, these scores will subsequently represent the National Jury Vote of that nation. However, in multi-member juries, the votes of all the jury members from that nation will be combined to form a single set of points. The song which has received the most number of points from that national jury will be deemed to be the overall first preference choice of that jury and will receive the maximum score of 12 points; the song which has received the second highest number of points from that national jury will be deemed to be the overall second preference choice of that jury and will receive a score of 11 points, and so forth until the song which has received the 12th highest number of points which will receive a single point from that national jury.
• (iii) In the case of multi-member juries with 4 jury members or more, that jury can choose between the standard voting format (12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1) or the following alternative points format (18-15-12-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1). However, all jurors of that national jury must use the same format when submitting their votes. It is not permitted that some use the standard format and some others use the alternative format. As such, if a national jury wants to choose the alternative format over the standard format, that national jury must debate together in private message to come to a common consensus or majority vote on which to decide. The result of that discussion will then be posted on thread to inform all contestants and the organisers of their decision.All members of that jury will then submit their votes using the selected format. The host will then combine the votes of the jury members in the usual manner to form a single set of points as standard (12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1).
• (iv) National juries consisting of 2 members will be allowed the right to opt-in to an alternative voting process which guarantees that any song which received votes from both jury members will appear in the final top 12 combined list of that nation's final voting table. This will be achieved by removing the lowest ranked nation(s) in the combined top 12 which received points from just 1 jury member. The removed nation(s) will then become the highest ranking reserves. This opt-in method is available to national juries consisting of 2 members only. Any jury wishing to adopt this method shall inform the organisers of their decision to opt-in to the process by posting their intention to do so on the TISC thread prior to the opening of the voting window. The standard method of combining votes will still be the default method so if a 2-member national jury does not inform otherwise on thread, or if both jury members are in disagreement about which method to adopt, then the standard method will automatically be used to combine their votes.

 

3. (f) National juries must submit their votes by the official voting deadline as designated by the host organiser(s). National juries who fail to submit their votes within the required time frame will be disqualified from the contest.

 

3. (g) Any Nation which fails to participate in the voting process will be automatically disqualified from the contest.

 

3. (h) A random draw will take place in advance of the Grand Final to determine the order in which the National Juries will reveal their votes. This draw must be shown to be transparent and available to competing members should they wish to follow the result.

The result of this draw must always be adhered to in order to preserve the random nature in which the voting will progress during the Grand Final. A National Jury may only request a "swap" in their designated voting position if, after the random draw, they have been assigned a voting slot outside of "reasonable hours". For the purpose of this contest, reasonable hours will be determined as anytime between 08:30-23:00 local time of that national jury. During the "swap" process, the host organiser will first look to make swaps between National Juries who are eligible for swaps after the random draw.

 

 

SECTION 4 - NATIONAL JURY TIE-BREAK PROCEDURES:

 

4. (a) In the event of a tie in the combined votes of multi-member juries, the following set of rules outlines how the tie-break will be resolved:

• (i) The song which has received points from the greatest number of jury members will be deemed the winner of the tie. For example, take the following scenario.... Songs A, B, and C each received a combined score of 10 points after the results of each national jury member were combined and calculated. Song A received a single score of 10 points from one jury member, Song B received scores of 7 points and 3 points from two separate jury members and Song C received scores of 5 points, 3 points and 2 points from 3 separate jury members. All three songs received a total of 10 points, however, Song C is deemed to be the winner of the tie because a greater number of jury members voted for that song (3 members in this case).
• (ii) If the songs remain deadlocked after 4 (a) (i), the song which received the highest value score from an individual jury member will be deemed the winner of the tie. For example, take the following scenario.... Song A and Song B each received a combined score of 14 points after the results of each national jury member were combined and calculated. Song A received scores of 8+6 points while Song B received scores of 7+7 points. Song A will be deemed the winner of that tie since that song received a score of higher value (8 points) from one of the national jury members.
• (iii) If the songs remain deadlocked after 4 (a) (i) and (ii), jury members from that national jury who did not award any votes to any of the songs involved in the tie-break will be asked to break the tie. This tie-break rule can only ever be used to break ties in juries of 3 members or more and ONLY if there is a jury member who did not vote for any of the songs involved in the tie-break.
• (iv) After the procedures 4 (a) (i), (ii) and (iii) have been carried out, all outstanding ties within the votes of a national jury shall be resolved by carrying out a single random draw. The nature of this random draw shall be as follows:
• The names of each national jury member will be entered into a draw. Each name will be drawn. The first jury member drawn will be awarded the right to break the unresolved tie of highest value. The second jury member drawn will be awarded the right to break the unresolved tie of the second highest value. For example, take the following scenario.... there are two members of National Jury X. After the votes of User A and User B are combined and calculated the following situation arises:

 

      COUNTRY (Total points) -> Combined value

• Country A (24 points) -> 12 points
• Country B (21 points) -> 11 or 10 points
• Country C (21 points) -> 11 or 10 points
• Country D (18 points) -> 9 points
• Country E (16 points) -> 8 points
• Country F (13 points) -> 7 or 6 points
• Country G (13 points) -> 7 or 6 points
• Country H (10 points) -> 5 points
• Country I (7 points) -> 4 or 3 points
• County J (7 points) -> 4 or 3 points
• Country K (4 points) -> 2 points
• Country L (1 point) -> 1 or 0 points
• County M (1 point) -> 1 or 0 points

 

• Those highlighted in red text are those ties which could not be resolved by 4 (a) (i), (ii) or (iii). As a result of the random draw, User A was drawn first, meaning that user will be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the highest value (the tie between Country B and C for 11 or 10 points). User B was drawn second meaning that user will be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the second highest value (the tie between Country F and G for 7 or 6 points). The order will then be reversed so that User B will be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the third highest value (the tie between Country I and J for 4 or 3 points). User A will finally be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the fourth highest value (the tie between Country L and M for 1 or 0 points).
• This procedure to break the unresolved ties will be used for national juries of any number with the first user drawn being given the right to break the unresolved tie of the highest value, the second user drawn being given the right to break the unresolved tie of the second highest value, third user the third highest tie, etc. reversing the order if need be when the order has completed one cycle.
• However, it should be noted that unresolved tie-breaks which require random draws will occur mostly in two-member juries since national juries with 3 or more members will likely resolve all ties through 4 (a) (i), (ii) or (iii).

 

 

SECTION 5 - OVERALL SCOREBOARD TIE-BREAK PROCEDURES:

 

5. (a) In the event of a tie in the overall scoreboard between two or more nations, the following set of rules outlines how the tie-break will be resolved:

• (i) The nation which has received points from the greatest number of National Juries will be deemed the winner of the tie.
• (ii) If there is still a tie after 5 (a) (i), the nation which has received the greatest number of 12 points will be deemed the winner of the tie.
• (iii) If there is still a tie after 5 (a) (i), (ii), the nation which has received the greatest number of 11 points will be deemed the winner of the tie. If the tie remains deadlocked, the process will continue by counting the number of 10 points each nation received, 9 points, 8 points, and so on until the tie-break can be resolved.

5. (b) If there is still a tie in the overall scoreboard between two or more nations after 5 (a) (i), (ii) and (iii) have been implemented, those nations shall be deemed to have tied for position in the overall scoreboard.

 

 

SECTION 6 - TEAM CHALLENGE FORMAT AND RULES:

 

6. (a) Each edition of the Totallympics International Song Contest will feature a Team Challenge competition. The main purpose of this team element is to further enhance the community spirit that is an integral feature of TISC events and to provide another means of encouraging users to interact with one another.

 

6. (b) The TISC Team Challenge event may vary in format from one contest to the next. The nature of the format will be dependent on the number of participating nations.

 

6. (c) Nations will be assigned to their team by random draw.

 

6. (d) The ideal format is that there will be a minimum of 8 teams, each made up of 4 nations. However, if that is not possible, the teams will be formed from one of the following formats (listed in order of preference):

• (i) teams of 3 nations
• (ii) teams of 5 nations
• (iii) if it's not possible for each team to have the same number of nations, a special provision will be introduced (for example: power plays).

 

6. (e) It is recommended that the teams shall be named after various cities/regions of the host country and combined with a nickname. For example, a contest in Brazil might feature teams called the Brasilia Capitals and Manaus Amazons.

 

 

SECTION 7 - ELIGIBILITY, CONDUCT AND RESPONSIBILITY OF PARTICIPANTS:

 

7. (a) Any first time participant must have been registered on the forum at least 2 months before they take part in the contest. The date used to calculate the 2 months rule will be 2 months prior to the National Selection deadline. A first time participant may be allowed special dispensation to participate in TISC, even if they do not fulfill the 2-month rule criteria. However, in such circumstances, that user must have shown a high level of activity in the forum in terms of posts and presence. This special dispensation will be awarded on the agreement of Totallympics admin, namely Sindo, who will conduct all necessary verification checks and will be given final approval by the TISC management team, namely OlympicIRL and the host of that TISC edition.

These rules are not designed to exclude, only to ensure TISC retains a distinct character, built upon a unique community atmosphere created by users of the forum.

 

7. (b) Participating users shall be respectful of the song choice of all nations once they fulfill all of the necessary eligibility requirements.

 

7. (c) Participating users must not reveal or give any indication as to their preferences or voting choices at any stage before the official announcement of the votes during the Grand Final.

 

7. (d) Participating users must not discuss private voting procedures with other members so as to ensure fairness is always in play and to ensure any suspense during the Grand Final is kept intact.

 

7. (e) Participating users must be respectful when posting and discussing with other members on the Totallympics International Song Contest Thread.

 

7. (f) If foul play is detected with respect to 7 (a), (b), (c), (d) or (e) at any stage before, during or after the contest, the TISC organising committee reserves the right to place the participation or result of that nation under review.

 

 

SECTION 8 - HOSTING DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES AND ORGANISATIONAL TIMEFRAME:

 

8. (a) The host organisation should adhere to the follow basic schedule upon organising the contest:

 

• When opening the thread, the registration window should be opened immediately, however, this window is only for user registration. The song entry window should not be opened in the first week to allow as many users as possible to take part in their national jury selection process.
• There shall be another 2 weeks allocated for registration and national song selection until the deadline to submit an entry.
• There shall be 2 weeks allocated for voting (of which a maximum of 4 days will be allocated to the host jury to submit their votes to a designated neutral third party).
• There shall be a maximum of 2 weeks allocated after the voting window closes to allow the hosts time to organise the Grand Final.
• This time-frame was agreed upon during a public vote but in special circumstances, exceptions will be considered.

 

8. (b) The host organiser(s) must submit their votes in advance of receiving votes from other National Juries by private message. The votes of the host(s) should be sent by private message to a neutral third party after the national selection window has passed and before the national jury voting phase begins.

 

8. (c) The host organiser(s) must abide by the same rules that govern the participation of users in the Totallympics International Song Contest as outlined in Section 6.

 

 

SECTION 9 - FUTURE HOSTING RIGHTS:

 

9. (a) Upon completion of the relevant song contest, the winning nation will automatically be awarded the rights to host the subsequent Totallympics International Song Contest 1 year later.

 

9. (b) If the winning nation wishes to decline the hosting duties, the runner-up of that edition will then be awarded the opportunity to accept or decline the hosting rights. If the runner-up also declines the hosting duties, the 3rd placed nation of that edition will have the opportunity to accept or decline the hosting rights.

 

9. (c) In the event that the hosting rights are declined by the top 3 ranked nations at the previous edition of the relevant TISC, an open bid process will be conducted in order to award the hosting rights. This process will be open to all candidates, first-time hosts as well as previous hosts.

A random draw will take place with each candidate being awarded a number of tickets in the draw. The more tickets a candidate has entered, the better their chance of being selected as host. Here is the process for how the tickets will be distributed:

 

Each candidate automatically awarded 1 ticket each in the draw. However, additional tickets awarded as follows

- did not host in the previous 5 editions (+1 additional ticket)

- did not host in the previous 10 editions (+1 additional ticket)

- did not host previously (+2 additional tickets)

- took part in the previous bidding process (+1 additional ticket). For first-time hosts, they will add an additional ticket for each edition they are unsuccessful for in bidding, thus increasing their chance slightly with each unsuccessful bid. This increase will only be available for first-time hosts. Additionally, if a first-time host missed 2 consecutive bidding campaigns, then their tickets no longer carry forward and they lose those additional tickets.

[OlympicIRL 5,532]

Ireland will be there

[Cinnamon Bun 896]

 

 

This is the offical TISC 2024 logo, the contest has officially gotten under way!!

Edited August 26 by Cinnamon Bun

[Bohemia 1,411]

will participate as always

[Fer GUA 495]

 will not miss it this year.

[heywoodu 15,135]

3 hours ago, Fer GUA said:

 will not miss it this year.

Of course, it is the year of super rare Guatemalan medals, so don't miss the chance  

Edited August 26 by heywoodu

[heywoodu 15,135]

 is of course in as well. This time I had even already picked out the song  

[Belle 975]

 is in of course. 

[Olympian1010 7,971]

I'll join the  jury once more