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Sports is so interwined with politics that anyone saying it should be apolitical is laughable. Also, people who want x to be apolitical usually have a very defined ideology: they are pro status quo almost always.4 points
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If you have ever watched modern pentathlon before, you should fully well know that horses are our mortal enemies here in Lithuania. We don't ride them, they ride us.4 points
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Diving Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games
NearPup and 3 others reacted to Herberth10 for a topic
All semifinalists are qualified4 points -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
thiago_simoes and 2 others reacted to Quaker2001 for a topic
The IOC can't have it both ways. When the Koreas marched together in 2018, they wanted to claim credit for that. When the world has a beef with China and the IOC is turning a blind eye to human rights abuses, they'll pretend like the issue doesn't exist. Yea, it would be nice to keep sports and politics separate, but we don't live in that world. And if advocating for equal rights is "being political" then we need to take a long look at ourselves. The best irony here for me is that the same group of people that say "keep politics out of sports" are largely aligned with the group that will be upset if politics is kept out of sports with the 2022 Olympics. Same deal everyone.. which is it? Can't have it both ways.3 points -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
heywoodu and 2 others reacted to thiago_simoes for a topic
So, let athletes represent themselves at the Olympics instead of pieces of land with an imaginary boundary decided by politics, then.3 points -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
vinipereira and 2 others reacted to dodge for a topic
So why are people against it then…3 points -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
Dnl and 2 others reacted to Monzanator for a topic
Raising a fist didn't solve any issues in 1968 and it won't solve any issues in 2021 either IMO3 points -
Weightlifting wild cards W64: Yasmin Zammit Stevens W76: Nancy Genzel Abouke W+87: Kuinini Manumua M67 Talha Talib M81 Amur AL Khanjari M96 Mohammad Hamada M109 Tanumafili Jungblut https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2021/06/Tokyo-2020_Absolute-Ranking-Lists_25062021.pdf3 points
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
szy123 and one other reacted to Olympian1010 for a topic
You deem those acceptable and the others not.2 points -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
vinipereira and one other reacted to Olympian1010 for a topic
So equal rights aren’t a political position then, thus acts that call for equality are apolitical? Faroe Islands, Macau, South Ossetia, Sahrawi Republic, Bougainville… Unless you want to compete as an athlete in a gendered event, or earn a Continental quota place, or be awarded tripartite invitation, or be a member of the Refugee Team… Who gets to decide what messages are okay? Is regulating speech and/or actions apolitical?2 points -
Newcomers per Sport at the Summer Olympic Games 2020
thiago_simoes and one other reacted to mrv86 for a topic
Then why put a knight riding a horse on the coat of arms?2 points -
I have answered: My posture is: As long as it's not an aggression towards another athlete or official, something impeding the normal running of the competition or something that breaks the law in the host country, you're free to do or say whatever.2 points
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
szy123 and one other reacted to Olympian1010 for a topic
If the Olympic Games were apolitical athletes wouldn’t not represent political entities, hear the song of a political entity upon winning an event, or parade under the flag of a political entity. Athletes would not be allowed to trade pins representing political entities, wear a uniform that displays the colors/flag/symbols of a political entity, or speak in any manner about a political entity. The International Olympic Committee would not hold elections for positions, and would instead run like a private business. Governing bodies representing political entities would no longer be allowed to be member federations of international federations. The International Olympic Committee wouldn’t sing a host agreement with a local, regional, or national political body, and would instead sign agreements with private companies, individual venues, and individual vendors. The Olympic Games would not be opened by the head of a political entity, but rather by the head of the IOC or LOC.2 points -
Pro liberalism is allowed. Pro conservatism is forbidden. How dare you go against universal values!2 points
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
thiago_simoes and one other reacted to Dragon for a topic
If you change the word "politics" to "morality", would you still agree with that statement?2 points -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
intoronto and one other reacted to Monzanator for a topic
Because politics should stay away from sports, period.2 points -
Athletics 2021 Discussion Thread
Grassmarket and one other reacted to Werloc for a topic
Day 1 of the Lithuanian Athletics Championships highlights: Tomas Keršulis was not known to nearly everyone in the stadium this evening, he started in the slowest heat of 400m and blew away the competition and everybody questioned the time posted on the clock. Nobody was able to beat his time in the faster heats and he became a Lithuanian champion in his very first competition in Lithuania. (he lives and trains in USA) 3000m. Steeplechase was lucky today for Giedrius Valinčius, who ran under 9 minutes and qualified to the European U23. It is the final chance to qualify to U23, the U20s still have an additional week of competitions. Adrijus Glebauskas was aiming for the Olympic qualification mark in the high jump, but eventually he got stuck on 2.31 (3rd attempt looked good). He won the championship with a 2.29 jump, it might be good enough to sneak him through the rating system. Highlight was the Discus Throw for men, where Gudžius without question won with a rather humble 67.21. What stole the attention of everyone was that Mykolas Alekna decided to take part in the competition throwing the senior discus (he only did that once last year). His best throw was 63.52, he became the 8th best thrower in Lithuanian history, broke the Lithuanian 19yo record and took the WL in his age group. His older brother Martynas came in 3rd with a 58.26 and of course during the medal ceremony, it was Virgilijus Alekna that awarded the medals. Nothing too crazy on the women's side. Urtė Bačianskaitė qualified to the U23 in shot put, she had failed to qualify in heptathlon and focused on the shot put instead. Beatričė Juškevičiūtė also qualified in the 100m Hurdles for U23, but she'll start in heptathlon. Everything interesting happened in the discus, where Ieva Zarankaitė broke her PB after an abyssmal season. It was the first time this year that she threw above 60 metres and her score was 62.08, which might help her qualify through rating. Second was Zinaida Sendriūtė with a competitive 59.51. Finally, Paulina Stuglytė, born in 2004, took the 3rd place with a 48.91. She broke the Lithuanian 16yo record, but was 9cm too short to a U20 World Champ qualifying mark, but she has qualified to the European U20 already earlier this month. I'll come back to this tomorrow, Airinė Palšytė, Edis Matusevičius, Liveta Jasiūnaitė, Gediminas Truskauskas and a triple jump battle between Kilty and Zagainova are the things to watch tomorrow.2 points -
I think we are lucky in Spain with this, because Spanish teams are forced by law to allow players to play for the national team, even if it isn't mandatory by FIFA. The final list will be published on Tuesday, but we will have a competitive team with several players that are participating in the EURO. Dani Olmo and Mikel Oyarzabal are a lock, while Eric García, Pau Torres, Unai Simón and Pedri still have chances to make it. Marco Asensio and Dani Ceballos from Real Madrid will be 2 of the 3 players over 24. Fabián Ruiz was going to be the other over-24 player, but Napoli didn't let him play, same case as Ferrán Torres (City), Rodrigo Hernández (City) and Borja Mayoral (Roma).2 points
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You can expect to hear from our lawyers2 points
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Oman getting revenge for all those dreary friendlies we forced them to play in football!2 points
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So didn't received any invitation, not even in swimming, Apparently, would compite only with two athletes, one qualified and a wildcard in Athletics. http://www.coa.ad/delegacio-andorrana-pels-proxims-jocs-olimpics-de-toquio-2020/2 points
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Cause World Athletics is doing weird things. It's giving athletes that currently qualify by ranking an Universiality Place. Both athletes, Emiliano Lasa in long jump, in women's 20km race walk.......2 points
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Professional Athletes on Totallympics
brunamoura reacted to Sindo for a topic
From time to time I see professional athletes registering on Totallympics. Some of them just find an event in our calendar and think registering on the forum will allow them to register for the event , but it would be nice to keep track of them. So far we surely know @brunamoura https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/athlete-biography.html?sectorcode=cc&competitorid=194536 @Jesús https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/athlete-biography.html?sectorcode=cc&competitorid=184663&type=result @RaileanuEcaterina https://www.issf-sports.org/athletes/athlete.ashx?personissfid=SHMDAW2403199301 I think these are the only 3 who ever posted something here. Then I also discovered @Бојан Зделар https://www.canoeicf.com/athlete/bojan-zdelar @Neko https://www.issf-sports.org/athletes/athlete.ashx?personissfid=SHIRIM1507199801 @nhemmer https://uww.org/person/nina-hemmer There are problably more, which either I forgot or which did not want to use the real name/information and so I was not able to link with any athlete Anyway we can keep track of them in this thread!1 point -
Women's 800- Lindsay Butterworth wins the Canadian championships with the automatic Olympic qualifying time 1:59.19, However, Melissa Bishop did not look her best, hoping she can improve before the Olympics. Bishop was also right on the standard. Third was Madeleine Kelly, and she will improve her rankings to 39th out of 48th, giving her some breathing room.1 point
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Summer Olympics Games 2020 Opening Ceremony Flag Bearers
LuizGuilherme reacted to OlympicIRL for a topic
Too bad they didn't separate Surobakia and Surobenia1 point -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
heywoodu reacted to thiago_simoes for a topic
Politics is not only about politicians. Sometimes it looks like you're just throwing everything on the wall to see what sticks. The kind of politics you're supposedly against has very few to do with politicians and political parties, and more to do with people's awareness about who they are in this world. You see, even splitting the competition between men and women for the overwhelming majority of sports is a political decision. These kind of decisions affect our everyday lives, such as keeping different restrooms for men and women, for example. Let's not forget that decisions about gender are at the very core of how the Olympics are organized, so I believe it's not up to anyone to just decide who can or cannot show their support about policial causes, and when it's okay to do it. It's just hypocritical to forbid or impose limits about where athletes can show their support.1 point -
You know what the difference is between those political things you listed and all other kinds of activism? The former is the same for everyone, we all get to see our nation compete and get to hear our anthem when our athletes win, it's part of the Olympics being a "parade of nations" where we all get together at a supposedly neutral event with the hosting nation getting some additional perks. It's in the fundamental nature of the Games. But you know what it isn't? Making exceptions for a few chosen nations because they are deemed special. If athletes want to make a statement at the Games, do it with the one way that has been allowed since the start: by winning medals. That's what this event is for. If it was enough for Hungarian athletes in 1956, it sure should be enough for everyone.1 point
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
szy123 reacted to thiago_simoes for a topic
So, you have to admit that most athletes depend on politics to even train. There's absolutely no way sports and politics can be separated.1 point -
No, it's twelve plus one reserve. See the teams at the bottom of the link. https://www.teamgb.com/article/rugby-sevens-squads-confirmed-for-tokyo/4iAl5McoZzoeVgy1gTLkVp1 point
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Back at the start of the 80s the South African Apartheid government used to squeal about keeping politics out of sport. Forty years later people on both sides of the argument now accept the sporting boycott of South Africa was very important in stopping the subjugation of black people in the country and allowing Mandela to become President,1 point
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Politics destroyed two Olympic Games. Or more like three if you count Munich. And even now, some people want to destroy another one with a boycott (which will thankfully never happen). Don't open the door to more politics at the Games because no matter what your intentions are, the long-term effects might not be what you want to achieve. At the very least the 1968 Black Power salute was one big moment and that was it. I can't agree with it at the Games, but hey, 1968 was a shit year and it was one moment. This isn't that. It's literally everywhere and it's inescapable at big international sport events where it doesn't belong to. You are not entitled to use international events for activism, the Olympic Games isn't the NFL, it's not your playground.1 point
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
thiago_simoes reacted to szy123 for a topic
Everything is political in a democracy. And democracy is people. And athletes are people and thus most of them have some ideas about world they care about.1 point -
Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
thiago_simoes reacted to NearPup for a topic
Defining what is and isn’t political is in and of itself a political exercise, so. As for the 1968 raised fist incident, lets not pretend that the IOC of that era was an apolitical creature. Brundage made a lot of very politically charged statements as head of the IOC.1 point -
Settecolli meet in Rome (ITA) last international event before the end of the qualification period... on day 1, 2 new Italian National records highlighted the evening session... Nicolò Martinenghi won the men's 100m breaststroke, improving to 58.29* (beating Arno Kamminga, who swam 58.40, with a great comeback in the last 20m)... *4th fastest specialists ever over the distance... Arianna Castiglioni once again was better than Benedetta Pilato and Martina Carraro (the 2 selected swimmers for this race in the Italian squad) in the women's 100m Breaststroke... she improved our National record to 1.05.67...Pilato swam 1.05.84 and Carraro 1.06.08... among others, Kristof Milak won the men's 100m Fly in 50.89 (in this race we saw Santo Condorelli's comeback with a promising 51.62, just a few hundreds of a second better than Federico Burdisso and the other best Italian specialists); Sarah Sjostrom won the women's 50m Fly in 25.42, edging out Ranomi Kromowidjojo (25.43); Bruno Fratus won the men's 50m Free in 21.71 (Alessandro Miressi was second in 21.97 and Santo Condorelli was 3rd in 22.00)... Finally, Federica Pellegrini had a solo show in the women's 200m free (1.56.23 her time) and Simona Quadarella also had more or less a training session in the women's 1500m Free (15.48.81 for her)...1 point
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
dcro reacted to Monzanator for a topic
Those pieces of land actually fund these athletes. If they didn't, Olympics would be only possible for children of millionaires (and then you'd have to ask where those millions would come from?)1 point -
Not really. The hierarchy of World Cup quota higher than Continental quota. Only if Japan decline the World Cup quota purposely they may have the continental quota. But I am not sure if it works this way. Because continental quota goes to NOC but WC goes to individual. So every NOC prefers the NOC one. Then China and Japan will both decline the WC quota. If it works this way, it's a bug. At the end, the qualification system is way too complicated full of calculation. It's not good for anyone.1 point
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one spot missing in the 49 kg1 point
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Weightlifting Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games
thiago_simoes reacted to MHSN for a topic
yes unfortunately1 point -
Artistic Gymnastics FIG World Cup 2021 (Doha)
thiago_simoes reacted to Vic Liu for a topic
China will pick Liu Yang anyway and still have two quotas. The World Cup quota of China goes to You Hao so Russia seemingly lost the World Cup quota. But Russia have continental and AA cup reallocation quotas. So Russia still have two quotas. what a wonderful outcome, Liu Yang and Pentrounis both go to Tokyo. Greece gained one more quota without reducing China and Russia’s. But it’s this complicated calculation and balancing thought hurt this sport most! We need fair score not fame score, not balancing score. It’s not geopolitics!1 point -
Semifinal: Men’s vs vs Women’s vs vs1 point
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Men's Football UEFA European Championship 2020
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he's not a world class striker since 2015 but this can't make people send him death threats u can criticize him as u want but not threatening him1 point -
all news websites in Iran are reporting that one of our "biggest names" in this sport who was supposed to be the gold medal contender in Tokyo is tested positive for doping. as usual they claim he just took some medicines without consulting with the doctors. we were supposed to have 3 strong gold medal contenders in Tokyo, while they didn't mention a name , I believe I know who is that athlete. but I'm not going to write it here because it's not official. well well. the whole Karate qualification process was a mixture of bad luck and bad results for Iran and this is the last nail to the coffin. so instead of having 8 athletes in Tokyo. we will end up with just 3.1 point
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Artistic Gymnastics FIG World Cup 2021 (Doha)
Makedonas reacted to merlinsbeard for a topic
Yes it is literally an olympic gold or not for Petrounidas and Greece. Although it will reduce İbrahim Çolak’a chances at olympics I still suppprt Petrounidas. An athlete this good should be at the olympics.1 point -
Newcomers per Sport at the Summer Olympic Games 2020
thiago_simoes reacted to TheMeem for a topic
in Artistic Swimming (Duet)1 point -
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I agree. Our 1996/1997/1998 boys looked so promising and did very well in those youth competitions, won a few European titles as well. Aside from Papagiannis and Mitoglou (and Dorsey who hasn't played for our national teams in years), none of those guys have really lived up to expectations. I expected much more from Charalampopoulos mostly, but also others like Koniaris, Mouratos, Lountzis, Toliopoulos etc. We'll be playing with mostly guys who are part of our qualifiers teams (when we can't use NBA or Euroleague players). Hopefully in the future the Antetokounmpo brothers are available because we really need them. In the past we had so much depth that it wasn't a big deal to miss a few key players here and there, but now things have really gone downhill. Also that 1996-1988 generation reminds me of the 1989-1991 generation which did very well and won some European titles in their age groups. Now I guess just Sloukas and Calathes are left from those teams (and Papanikolaou who is injured). Koufos, Mantzaris, Pappas, Jankovic...more was expected from these guys. I mean I think Kaselakis and Katsivelis were part of those teams, but those aren't really the guys we want on our senior team yet here they are. Agravanis is another player I had high expectations for but injuries ruined his career so far.1 point
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In Sydney 2000 during a night live coverage they literally commented another sport ! The TV was showing swimming heats and the audio was from a Tennis match..nobody fixed that the whole hour !1 point
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[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread
Jack Gonçalves reacted to Olympian1010 for a topic
Kinda like the Hungarian fans who held up anti-LGBT+ signs during their first match of the tournament…1 point -
Virgin Islands National Thread
OlympicIRL reacted to Olympian1010 for a topic
Road To Tokyo 2020 Team Announcement It’s official! The United States Virgin Islands has announced it’s team for the Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games! The US Virgin Islands plans to send 4 athletes to Tokyo for the Olympic Games. The athletes will represent the USVI in the sports of Archery, Athletics, and Aquatics. Archery Nicholas D’Amour - Currently the 9th ranked archer in the world rankings, D’Amour will make his debut in Tokyo after being awarded a universality quota. He will be the first ever archer to represent the US Virgin Islands at the Olympic Games. Athletics Eddie Lovett - What’s better than participating in one Olympics, participating in two. Lovett returns to Olympics once more as a representative of the US Virgin Islands. He will compete in the men’s 110m hurdles after receiving a universality quota. Aquatics - Swimming Natalia Kuipers - She holds the national record in the 400m freestyle, and will make her debut at the Olympic Games in Tokyo. She qualified for the Olympics via a universality quota. Adriel Sanes - Another athlete making his debut at the Olympic Games, he too has shown his prowess in the pool. He has already achieved the OST in the men’s 200m breaststroke and will awarded an invitation or universality quota. Team photo courtesy of the Virgin Islands Olympic Committee.1 point