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heywoodu

Speed Skating ISU World Cup 2017 - 2018

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heywoodu    2,985
46 minutes ago, phelps said:

 

well, Francesca would be even better if those idiots of the ISU and IOC adopted the Dutch Marathon Cup format...the races would be a billion times more exciting (and fair to the better athletes)...

when they skate in the traditional 400m ovals, they normally make 80 laps (32km)...and of course there are no silly (and senseless) intermediate sprints...:evil:

p.s. the boys usually skate over 125 laps (50km)

You, Sir, are a wise man :old:

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Nate River    167
5 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Not that random, mostly a matter of 'Dubreuil shouldn't have been in the B division based on pure quality' :p 

 

But yeah, apart from that, this is yet another reason why it's absolutely insane that they changed the Olympic 500m to one heat. Apart from things being so close, that's nothing less than 'falsifying' the competition, since there's always one skater that has an advantage by having the last outside turn. That was eliminated by the normal system of two 500m races, but apparently a fair competition is not what the IOC/ISU wants.

The US federation had a really good proposal for sprints. They wanted both the 500m and the 1000m to be contested over a two run, best time counts (similar to half pipe / slopestyle) with one try on the inner and one try on the outer. Obviously the ISU went the other way, but I actually prefer that idea to the two run format.

 

The 500m especially is just too high variance for a one run format at the godamn Olympics. There are like 15 people who can win on a given day.

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heywoodu    2,985
Just now, Nate River said:

The US federation had a really good proposal for sprints. They wanted both the 500m and the 1000m to be contested over a two run, best time counts (similar to half pipe / slopestyle) with one try on the inner and one try on the outer. Obviously the ISU went the other way, but I actually prefer that idea to the two run format.

For the 500m I might agree, not for the 1000m. Although I'd still just prefer the 500m to still be a two race event, where both count. At least the 'one race counts' suggestion is still fair, unlike the one we'll have in Pyeongchang now. 

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Nate River    167
Just now, heywoodu said:

For the 500m I might agree, not for the 1000m. Although I'd still just prefer the 500m to still be a two race event, where both count. At least the 'one race counts' suggestion is still fair, unlike the one we'll have in Pyeongchang now. 

At least it's going to be fair on the women's side because Kodaira is going to win regardless of the format :p

 

Men's race is going to be a lottery.

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heywoodu    2,985
5 minutes ago, Nate River said:

At least it's going to be fair on the women's side because Kodaira is going to win regardless of the format :p

 

Men's race is going to be a lottery.

I really, really hope so :wub:

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heywoodu    2,985

Chung Jae-won takes over 5 seconds off of his PB and puts down a 6.20 5k in the B-division, finishing with a couple of 29-second laps...which is alright, but which becomes a whole lot more than alright when considering he's only 16 :yikes::hyper:

That's only a bit less than two seconds slower than Bokko's world junior record..

 

http://live.isuresults.eu/2017-2018/heerenveen/d125.htm

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heywoodu    2,985

Looks like they've put down some seriously good ice in Thialf :thumbup:

 

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dcro    2,476

Like seriously, WTF is going on with the Japanese women's team? They have won every event here so far. Ridiculous.

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heywoodu    2,985

1.07.97 for Kulizhnikov, what the hell!!! :yikes:

 

 

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heywoodu    2,985
19 minutes ago, dcro said:

Like seriously, WTF is going on with the Japanese women's team? They have won every event here so far. Ridiculous.

 

The Americans don't care about these competitions yet, the Dutch are focussed on the OQT and the Japanese women have been getting better for quite a while already. 1+1+1 = 3 :p 

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dcro    2,476

Sablikova and Wust are in an awful shape. :facepalm:

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