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    Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

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    5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

    Hassan is actually quite likeable as well, always friendly and polite to everyone and always being quite modest about herself. Too bad she's training with that shady dude in the US though. 

     

    Churandy Martina and Liemarvin Bonevacia are some of the most chill athletes ever (I guess the Netherlands Antilles have a positive spirit) as well. 

     

    It's just a matter of waiting for Turkey or Azerbaijan to please help us get rid of Schippers. 

     

    And what is so wrong with Schippers? Without her, Dutch athletics would be anonymous on a global stage ;) 

    Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

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    24 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

    That would be great for her, has she ever finished with a silver medal before? I think with all the talents coming through (Vicente, Ruckstuhl, Lagger, Sukh) constantly being 2nd would be great for her.

     

    Yeah, this Shukh girl is one to watch out for. She's recored 51 m in the javelin here already. I thought Ruckstuhl was much older tbh. She seems to be around for a much longer than in reality.

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    Just now, OlympicsFan said:

    I think thats not a bold prediction ... i just dont see the polish girls being anywhere near world class, despite still being comfortably better than the german girls. Its hard to find nations with 4 fast 400 m runners, so maybe something like 3:25 might even be enough for a bronze in Tokyo, unless GB finds some talents again.

     

    USA is in their own class regardless. Jamaica is still better than any European nation too. GB struggling without Ohuorugu is not our problem :cool:

    Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

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    2 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

    Of course that had nothing to do with GDR athletes joining the german team ...

    Germany hasnt been better in the track events (at least on the womens side) for at least 25 years. Lückenkemper and Klosterhalfen are 21 years old and are the best german track talents since 1990 in my opinion. Klosterhalfen broke 2:00.00 over 800 m, 4:00.00 over 1500 m (3:58.91) and 15:00.00 over 5000 m (14:51.00) last year as a 20 year old, i am not sure whether any other runner ever did those times at such a young age. Add in Alina Reh (31:38.00 in a 10 km road race last year as a 20 year old), Pamela Dutkiewicz, Cindy Roleder, Krause, Lisa Mayer, Gesa Krause, Hanna Klein and talents like Keshia Kwadwo (4th at the U20 world championships in the 100 m this year), Talea Prepens (23.51 s with -0.7 m/s wind over the 200 m last year as a 15 year old, U18 world champion) or Marie Scheppan (52.82 s over 400 m as a 17 year old this year) and you have nothing to moan about as a german fan.

    Actually Germany reached a low at the 2008 olympics and since has always been among the top 5-6 nations in the world. Poland surely got much better in the last 30 years, but of course thats easy when you were in a horrible state before. I think Poland kind of adapted the german strategy of focusing on throwing events that are clearly the least competitive events globally, while Germany started to focus more in track events and therefore lost its dominance in throwing events (although Röhler/Vetter, C. Harting, Storl, Hussong, Schwanitz, Vita/Craft are still in a good position to fight for medals in 2020).

     

    We only began to struggle in the mid 80s when the L.A. boycott severed a lot of athletic programmes among others. Seoul 1988 remains out worst post WWII Olympic performance (minus the Melbourne voyage in 1956). This stretched to the early 90s and we only began scoring good results since 1996. Before that we had Artur Partyka, Wanda Panfil and Robert Korzeniowski. Partyka's bronze in the high jump was the only medal we got in the 1992 Olympics, we had no medals at all in Seoul (6th in 4x100 wome relay was our best). Our best result at European Champs is 15 medals in 1966 at the height of the 'Wunderteam' years.

     

    These junior results sometimes don't transfer to the seniors. Konrad Bukowiecki was labelled as the top junior in the world and now Haratyk has his measure and beyond. If three years ago anyone said Haratyk will be better than Bukowiecki you'd be laughed off and then some.

    Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

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    Thiam gained 305 pts on KJT in the javelin :bounce:

     

    So much for underperforming.

     

    And quite frankly I don't see KJT ever improving t ca. 47-48 m let alone 50. Sotherton never could and everyone who struggled at javelin, kept struggling all the way through (we've had this in Poland with Tyminska before).

    Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

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    1 minute ago, OlympicsFan said:

    Yeah, because the polish girls are so much faster ... in addition to that Germany rested its best runner and has to compete without Spelmeyer who was the 2nd best european athlete at the world championships last year (better than all polish girls).

     

    We'll compare the notes after the final. I say POL finishes ahead of GER :cheer:

     

    It's bad enough the 400m final is only 90 mins before the relay final.

    Athletics EAA European Championships 2018

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    4 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

    Thats true, both he and his girlfriend (Sosthene Moguenara) are massively wasting their talent. We have to remember that Holzdeppe was 7th at the 2008 olympics as an 18 year old.

    By the way: I recently felt pretty old when i thought about how many german athletes who competed at the 2008 olympics (the first olympics i followed closely) are now retired. This probably doesnt deserve an own thread, but when i looked up how many german athletes who competed at the 2008 olympics will probably also compete at the 2020 olympics i was surprised to see that the number is actually quite high (many athletes in equestrian, but also guys like Timo Boll, Dimitri Ovtcharov or Marcel Nguyen). Would be interesting to see if its the same with other nations.

     

    I go a little longer back, I still remember Wodars & Wachtel in the 800m and then Katrin Krabbe at Tokyo 1991 WC plus these white German suits with a red stripe :p Quite frankly Germany has slid down by a huge margin especially on the track events in the last 25 years or so. It's been a lot different for Poland. Late 80s/early 90s was our worst period in athletics. We're on the up since Atlanta Olympic Games again.

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