OlympicsFan

I am expecting 4 Golds in Olympic events here, although the men‘s eight doesnt Seem to be in top shape.

I don't really get this strategy, but in the end it probably won't matter. Germany only needs the following athletes to qualify: Lemke Rauhe Liebscher Hoff Rendschmidt Schopf Brendel Oeltze Kretschmer Those guys have a good chance of winning 5 golds in Tokyo and all you have to do to qualify those guys is to win quota places in K2 1000 m, K4 500 m, C2 1000 m and C1 1000 m, the other events are irrelevant from a german perspective. Of course it would be nice if the women's K4 would qualify as well, but Germany has no chance at gold in any women's events, so those are not as important as the men's events. In Tokyo next year the boats should look like this on the men's side: K1 200 m: Liebscher/Rauhe K1 1000 m: Rendschmidt K2 1000 m: Hoff + Schopf K4 500 m: Rauhe + Lemke + Rendschmidt + Liebscher C1 1000 m: Brendel C2 1000 m: Oeltze + Kretschmer

I hope that Megos won't blow another huge opportunity.

Did she receive a score before being disqualified? In case not, what score would have been appropriate in your oppinion (if you watched her ride)?

You really gotta love the humor of our spanish friend ... Spain has half of Cuba competing for them despite those athletes not having any connection to Spain and still our spanish friend finds a reason to complain ... about an athlete, who really hasn't much of a connection to Spain, competing for another country she has a much stronger connection to.

I expect clearly worse results for Germany this year, i would say 2 golds in olympic disciplines at best. I have absolutely no clue why Rendschmidt and Liebscher won't compete in any individual olympic discipline, complete waste of potential.

[hide] Event & Date Athletes Gold Silver Bronze Women's K2 200m ' Australia Belarus Germany Hungary Russia Slovenia South Africa Spain Ukraine Any Other Nation Men's C2 200m Belarus China Hungary Kazakhstan Poland Romania Russia Spain Ukraine Uzbekistan Any Other Nation Women's C1 500m Alena NAZDROVA Yanan MA Johanna HANDRICK Afton FITZHENRY Giada BRAGATO Julia WALCZAK Kseniia KURACH Gabriela LADICOVA Anastasiia CHETVERIKOVA Any Other Athlete Men's K1 500m Thomas GREEN Mikita BORYKAU Tom LIEBSCHER Barry WATKINS Ilya PODPOLNYY Bram BRANDJES Przemyslaw KORSAK Fernando PIMENTA Maxim SPESIVTSEV Ervin HOLPERT Oleh KUKHARYK Any Other Athlete Men's C2 500m China Czech Republic Germany Hungary Poland Romania Russia Spain Ukraine Uzbekistan Any Other Nation Women's K2 1000m Belarus Bulgaria Germany Hungary Mexico Russia Spain Ukraine Any Other Nation Men's K4 1000m Belarus Bulgaria Czech Republic Germany Hungary Russia Slovakia Spain Ukraine United States Any Other Nation Men's C1 200m Artsem KOZYR Zaza NADIRADZE Michael MUELLER Jonatan HAJDU Timur KHAIDAROV Henrikas ZUSTAUTAS Tomasz BARNIAK Helder SILVA Dmitrii SHAROV Alfonso BENAVIDES Any Other Athlete Women's K1 200m Mengdie YIN Emma Aastrand JORGENSEN X Sarah GUYOT Jessica WALKER Lisa CARRINGTON X Marta WALCZYKIEWICZ X Biljana RELIC Ivana MLADKOVA Teresa PORTELA Linnea STENSILS Any Other Athlete Men's K1 200m Maxime BEAUMONT X Badri KAVELASHVILI Liam HEATH Manfredi RIZZA Arturas SEJA X Pawel KACZMAREK Evgenii LUKANTSOV Strahinja STEFANOVIC Carlos GARROTE X Petter MENNING Any Other Athlete Men's C2 1000m China Cuba X France Germany X Italy Poland Russia X Spain Any Other Nation Men's K1 1000m Aleh YURENIA Josef DOSTAL X Rene Holten POULSEN Etienne HUBERT Tamas GECSOE Thomas LUSTY Balint KOPASZ X Rafal ROSOLSKI Fernando PIMENTA X Roi RODRIGUEZ Any Other Swimmer Women's K1 1000m Sarah BRUESSLER Lizzie BROUGHTON Tamara CSIPES Jitta LAAN VAN DER Justyna ISKRZYCKA Svetlana CHERNIGOVSKAYA Mariana PETRUSOVA Eva BARRIOS Anna Maria ZAGORSKA Any Other Athlete Women's C1 200m Alena NAZDROVA X Staniliya STAMENOVA Luqi ZHANG Jana JEZOVA Annika LOSKE Katie REID Dorota BOROWSKA Olesia ROMASENKO X Gabriela LADICOVA Any Other Athlete X Men's C1 500m Angel KODINOV Jiabin XU Joosep KARLSON Thomas SIMART Sebastian BRENDEL Oleg TARNOVSCHI Mikhail KARPOV Matej RUSNAK Pavlo ALTUKHOV Ian ROSS Any Other Athlete Men's K2 500m Czech Republic France Germany Hungary Italy Japan Russia Serbia Spain Ukraine Any Other Nation Women's K2 500m Austria Belarus Belgium France X Germany Hungary X New Zealand X Poland Slovenia Any Other Nation Men's C4 500m Belarus Czech Republic Germany Hungary Poland Romania Russia Spain Ukraine Any Other Nation Women's C2 500m Canada Chile China France Germany Great Britain Hungary X Poland Russia X Ukraine Any Other Nation X Men's K4 500m Australia Canada Czech Republic France Germany X Hungary X Portugal Russia Slovakia Spain X Any Other Nation Women's K4 500m Australia Belarus China France Germany X Hungary X New Zealand X Poland Russia Ukraine Any Other Nation Women's K1 500m Volha KHUDZENKA X Emma Aastrand JORGENSEN Pauliina POLET Manon HOSTENS Danuta KOZAK X Lisa CARRINGTON X Svetlana CHERNIGOVSKAYA Milica STAROVIC Ivana MLADKOVA Linnea STENSILS Any Other Athlete Men's K2 1000m Australia Czech Republic Denmark France Germany X Hungary Lithuania Russia Serbia X Slovakia Spain X Any Other Nation Men's C1 1000m Maksim PIATROU Isaquias QUEIROZ DOS SANTOS X Mark William OLDERSHAW Jose Ramon PELIER CORDOVA X Martin FUKSA X Adrien BART Sebastian BRENDEL Carlo TACCHINI Tomasz KACZOR Matej RUSNAK Any Other Athlete Men's K2 200m Czech Republic France Germany Great Britain Hungary Poland Russia Spain Any Other Nation Womens's C2 200m Belarus China Hungary Moldova Poland Russia Ukraine Uzbekistan Any Other Nation Women's C1 5000m Bernadette WALLACE Volha KLIMAVA Maria MAILLIARD Yajue ZHANG Annika LOSKE Zsanett LAKATOS Maria CORBERA Ann Marie ARMSTRONG Any Other Athlete Men's C1 5000m Joosep KARLSON Sebastian BRENDEL Balazs ADOLF Carlo TACCHINI Aivis TINTS Rigoberto CAMILO Mateusz KAMINSKI Manuel Antonio CAMPOS Any Other Athlete Women's K1 5000m Alyssa BULL Maryna LITVINCHUK Tabea MEDERT Lizzie BROUGHTON Dora BODONYI Jennifer EGAN Kristina BEDEC Mariana PETRUSOVA Inna HRYSHCHUN Any Other Athlete Men's K1 5000m Artuur PETERS Rene Holten POULSEN Max HOFF Balint NOE Eivind VOLD Fernando PIMENTA Francisco CUBELOS Joakim LINDBERG Any Other Athlete [/hide]

Some additions: 1) Russia also did it in the bronze final 2) Germany won and now owns the junior world record

France set a new junior world record in men's team pursuit, Germany was also faster than the old world record. Germany lost women's team sprint for the first time in ages while Italy continues their dominance in women's team pursuit. In men's team sprint Germany was embarrassing once again. India won the gold medal in that event but i don't see them translating this success to senior level.

Quite interesting that the japanese head coach is from Germany ...

If he won't be cut ... which sadly won't happen ... My roster of 12 would have been: Schröder (25, Oklahoma City Thunder) Lo (26, Bayern Munich) Bonga (19, Washington Wizards) Zipser (25, Bayern Munich) Giffey (28, Alba Berlin) Theis (26, Boston Celtics) Barthel (27, Bayern Munich) Kleber (27, Dallas Mavericks) Wagner (22, Washington Wizards) Thiemann (25, Alba Berlin) Voigtmann (26, CSKA Moscow) Hartenstein (21, Houston Rockets) Then the oldest player would have been Giffey with 28 and the average age would have been 24.75

Agree, it is ultra embarrassing, they are acting as if Canada would have been a lock for a medal despite never having done anything important at senior level ... Serbia will be with their best teams, Germany, Turkey and Greece too and as far as i know the same will be true for Lithuania, France and maybe Spain. I think of the top 10 teams in the world only USA and Canada will miss multiple top players while Australia will only miss one players as far as i know. USA will still win gold probably and Serbia, Greece and France will be the favorites for the other 2 medals. The only nation that will really suffer due to the absence of one of their best players will be Australia in my opinion, with Simmons they would have been one of the favorites for a medal too. Canada never would have been a favorite for a medal and the same is true for all other nations.

Most nations are here with their best players, only the US is missing tons of players + Canada, but even at their full strength Canada wouldn't have been favorite for a medal. In ice hockey the absence of players has a big influence on the final result, but in basketball that probably won't be the case. USA will still win and Serbia will probably win silver like they always do even if all the best teams compete.

How can you know something that lies in the future and isn't under your influence?

Why? USA is missing tons of players but apart from that most of the best players are here except for Simmons. It's not as if Canada has any stars, even with everyone participating Canada would have been an outsider for a medal considering that no canadian player even remotely has the quality of Giannis or Jokic.

The australian best team is without Simmons?

I wonder why you didn't include the current world champion Liu Tingting?

Doesn't her new floor element already exist for men? If that is the case, then why would it be named after her? I don't get why the same element for men and women would have two different names ...

I am pretty confident she will lose at least one out of balance beam and uneven bars. Would be bad for gymnastics if she would win all golds.

Italy is doing really great in team sports so far, but i am not really sure about their chances in the remaining team sports? As far as i know their chances in handball, basketball, hockey and rugby aren't great.

I think the 12 players nominated should be Barnes, Brown, Fox, Kuzma, Lopez, Lowry, Middleton, Mitchell, Smart, Tatum, Turner and Walker. Even without so many players missing they are still easily the favorites given that France will probably be number 2 concerning the number of NBA players with only 6.

Germany definitely still could have won, but the following results made that impossible: - No height for Ryzih in womens Pole vault-> 0 points - Disqualification for Petros in mens 5000 m -> 0 points - Kwayie Not Starting in womens 100 m final -> another 4 or 5 points lost - The mens 4 x 400 m Relay only getting 2 points thanks to Trefz getting Injured mid-race-> another 6 or 7 points lost - Gierisch Having to Retire After her First try in womens triple jump -> another 4 or 5 points lost Germany easily lost 35 points in Those events alone, so everyone Performing at His/her normal level would have Been enough for the victory, Even without Lückenkemper, Pinto, Reh, Klosterhalfen, Jungfleisch, Hussong, Heinle, Holzdeppe and a couple of others Competing. I would like to See all Nations with Their best Athletes Some day and i think then we would have The following Podium: 1) GB 2) Germany 3) Poland Followed by France, Italy, Spain, Ukraine, the Netherlands and Belarus.

Malaika Mihambo today had her 5th competition of the season with 7 m or more, the last time that happened was in 2002 (when Tatjana Kotova had 6 competitions with 7 m or more).

I really like this format, but when basically no nation except the host competes with their best team, then it is kind of pointless. The same happened in the B division where Portugal never would have won if the Netherlands would have competed with their best team.

I am surprised to see that without the disqualification of Petros, the no height of Ryzih and the DNS of Kwayie Germany actually could have won this despite missing so many top athletes.