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I always said, half-joking that Hungary and the Slovak Republic could bid together for the 2034 or 2038 winter olympics.

Snow events could be in Slovakia, most of ice events in Hungary and ice hockey shared between the two (considering that SK is much better in that than HU). Bobsleigh and luge track could be in the "mountains" around Buda in Budapest :D
Problem is, due to climate change there will be probably no winter around that time (provided we dont die earlier in WW III thanks to VVP & his gang)

10 hours ago, thepharoah said:

 

I don't know if u put me on this Maghreb list,  but I don't cheer on Putin and for me Russia is like USA like China Britain any super power who wants to invade others and kill innocent people for whatever reasons but not ofc for their sake, I just mentioned what Putin said and I can't say he lied when mentioning these cases where the world shut up their ears just cuz its USA, it doesn't mean that I support him, I don't support politicians over innocent people and I hate politics as much as u would imagine 

Okay sorry than it was misunderstood

Two observations:

- Interestingly, nary a peep from one of the biggest Putin fans in this forum.
- Secondly, to those posters from the Magreb who cheer on Russia: I get you hate the US. You really do. But I assume you wouldn't be happy if a regional power attacked your country. So it is one thing to hate the USA and other is to cheer on another country invading its neighbor.

The catastrophic mistake of Iraq 2003 and Libiya 2011 does not excuse what is happening now

Would be interested in what qualification period for aquatic sports will be with all this mess around the WCh's. 

Apart from this year's, how many aquatics WCh will be held until the Olympics? And which one will be the OG qualification event?

Swimming and water polo officials here are seriously at a loss about this. I assume they are not alone.

What an Olympics for  ian's!

The hero of (Vlhova) wins a gold medal and to top it off they get a bronze in the most popular sport in the country!

Congrats @hckošice!

And now : GO FINLAND!!!

5 hours ago, FireRun said:

One possible positive test (we will see what the B sample says) shouldn't ban a whole country. Especially now when athletes are tested much more thoroughly than ever before. Russians are under a microscope and if they are doping they will get caught. Let the clean athletes compete for their nation and ban those who do doping. Stop this political nonsense in sports. 

I my post, I did not advocate banning Russia, just pointed out that this particular sanction is useless.

I agree this time that this whole ROC/OAR etc. thing is a farce. It is not a real sanction but still makes possible for the Russian to play the victim and whine that "again the poor blameless Russia is being humiliated". It the worst of both worlds.

Dont think it does anything against doping which was the objective in the first place.

14 minutes ago, Mkbw50 said:

Welcome to Totallympics Molly,

 

I think that the IOC is corrupt (although less so than some IFs), rotten even but with the host cities up for selection being Beijing and Almaty (Kazakhstan) I think they made the right decision. I don't think the Chinese needed to bribe them.

 

@Grassmarket Qazaqstan is romanised from Kazakh, Kazakhstan is romanised from Russian, so I guess it's like the Ukrainians changing the English name of their capital from Kiev (Russian) to Kyiv (Ukrainian)

Probably yes, also like when Georgia started to ask other countries where the name of their country comes from the Russian word (Gruzija - Грузия) to call them "Georgia" instead.

For example, in Hungarian the name of Georgia is "Grúzia" which comes from the Russian form above, and Georgia started to campaign after the 2008 war to call it Georgia instead.

1 hour ago, Herki said:

Estonia for sure expected a better catch than "just a bronze" from this OG from Kelly. She has gathered quite a many haters over the whole Sildaru family drama, they had a field day today.

Are those haters Estonian? "Interesting" tbh that someone roots against the one realistic OG medal chance of their country....

Or is this family dispute so serious?

1 hour ago, orangeman said:

Geez, the Germans could go down the track sideways and still be top-3.  

Yea, but it seems to me its also due to superior German sleds.

Kind of like Red Bull F1 cars in 2013 or Merc F1 cars in 2016. Of course in both years the teams concerned also had capable driver to go with their space-ship cars.

36 minutes ago, LowerSaxony said:

Any responsible federation who cares more about the athlete than a possible gold medal would have taken the poor girl out of the Olympics after the positive test. Media will always cannibalize drama, especially when it comes to Olympic Women's Figure Skating. In order to save her from that plus the high pressure she was under, a withdrawal would have been the only way to go. I cannot believe that anybody does not seek the exclusive responsibility for that shit show anywhere else but at her coaches and her federation. I hope she mentally recovers and comes back soon.

That's a sensible comment and approach, much more than shouting "Russophobes!" and "western media!"

Being realistic about the probability that Russian coaching and approach to athlete welfare will change (=not much) versus subscribing to the narrative of "big bad western media destroyed the blameless innocent Russians" are two different things.

BTW, if I had x amount of money every time when a media org somewhere (and particularly outside continental Europe - so this includes the UK already) mixes up Budapest and Bucharest or Slovenia and Slovakia, I would be very rich already. So nothing new here too.

Not sure if it is worth writing this post as it seems it has become another ideological soapbox but still:

Those who shout "western media" , why you dont have any criticsm towards the completely amoral and evil person of Tutberidze, who is the final responsible of all this? If she hasn't given prohibited subtance to a 15 year old girl, there would be no issue, and nothing to make for the "western media" a scandal from.

Where there is smoke there is fire.

Many people act as if the so-called "western media" (in fact, the media organizations mentioned in this topic are almost all British or American) made up this whole issue out of thin air.

Of course, it is possible and fair to be concerned by media ethics, and we actually saw people being destroyed by media (e.g. British tabloids vs. some members of their royal family). But not noticing the big issue, which is Tutberidze, is kind of disingenuous.

Unless someone wants to score ideological points and athlete welfare is just a convenient smokescreen.

There's a business opportunity to make T-shirts with the caption "Tutberidze did nothing wrong".

It would be lapped up by her admirers here.

7 minutes ago, NearPup said:

TBH after the first two days short track has been shockingly drama-free. Like, almost world cup-like in terms of incidents.

Too bad we were caught up in those two days 😃🤣

Wow! Slovakia is the Germany of 2022? :D

Congrats @hckošice !

Wrt these non sporting medals:

There is a small park in downtown Budapest, the Olympic Park (not far from the Parliament Bldg). In the park,  there's a monument with the name and event of every Olympic medallist per OG (when I was last there there was even space left for future medallists to be added)

I remember at some early Games some of those non sporting medals were also added in a separate line on the monument.

Maybe they wanted to be exhaustive

I assume the official medal tally of does not include these medals.

53 minutes ago, Ros said:

Where is located WADA headquarter? 🤣

Montreal, Canada. But the International Testing agency is indeed in Lausanne (like the IOC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Anti-Doping_Agency

5 minutes ago, rafalgorka said:

During today's short track finals I saw on TV that there was an Italian guy in the stands with writing on the huge paper card:

 

"FORZA RE DI POLONIA CONQUISTA L'ORIENTE!"

 

@phelps @Dunadan @Gianlu33 what was it? what does it really mean?

 

Because I kind of think that... I sort of lost it in translation.

The first part means "Go, king of Poland" - not sure who they refer to (I assume its a Polish athlete)

And the last is something like "take over the Orient" or "capture the Orient" - i.e. "take Beijing by storm" meaning perform exceptionally well

I am not native Italian speaker just trying to find out by logic.

Maybe native Italian speakers can add something which was lost to me

I watched this live (did not see the 2018 gold live and after the other Liu being sort of robbed in the 1000m I promised I will stop watching short track), but finally he did!

As it is said "Fate plays for a draw" - 1 gold (sort of) taken away, 1 gold won.

And few days before the OG it wasnt even sure that Liu Shaoang can compete - now he goes home with 1 gold and 2 bronze...

3 hours ago, Orangehair43 said:

Dick Pouhd calls for Russia be totally banned from the next three games. Anyone opposes it?

In principle I would not mind.

But as things stand now, Russia might start a war against the whole world in retaliation

Maybe they will launch missile strikes against Lausanne (where the IOC is located)

Problem is:

This could be influenced two ways:

1./ Internal change inside the Russian system - this is impossible as only the athletes concerned could initiate it (no one else in Russia is interested in terminating Russia's doping policies) and they either don't want to jeopardize their own position (life is unhappy, brutish and short in Putinist Russia unless you are rich & famous) or if they do, they will be sidelined as they are only objects in order to attain the greater goal - glory to Mother Russia

2./ Enough other country athletes / sponsors make a fuss that they are not willing to compete / sponsor if Russian doping is not sorted out. This is a typical coordination problem from game theory - they could make a difference if they acted together in a coordinated way but for several reasons this is unlikely to happen.

Given the fact that the Olympics are overseen by an organisation that is world leading in corruption & hipocrisy (the IOC) the most likely solution is some kind of "muddling through" - maybe Russia is warned that they will be punished real hard if they don't sort out doping by 2024 - and then nothing happens.

Sorry for Valieva though, she is a really talented young athlete, too bad she is used this way for power political purposes.

LATVIJAAAAAA!!!!! 

Congratulations @hckošice!

I guess Petra now maybe gets an airport named after her (like C Ronaldo)

4 hours ago, Mkbw50 said:

Well, that explains why the Dear Leader was there watching. It's like he wants thanks as the guy who saved Peng Shuai or something. Such a prick

When I first opened the thread this morning at this post about Dear Leader I believed that Comrade Xi himself made an appearance.

Then I saw it was Mr. 1976 Fencing