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[hide] Event & Date Athletes Gold Silver Bronze Men's Team Day 1 October 29th 2018 Brazil China x France Germany Great Britain x Japan Russia x South Korea Switzerland United States Any Other Nation Women's Team Day 2 October 30th 2018 Belgium Brazil Canada China x France Great Britain Japan Netherlands Russia x United States x Any Other Nation Men's All Around Day 3 October 31st 2018 Lin Chaopan x Sun Wei Xiao Ruoteng x Kakeru Tanigawa Kenzo Shirai x Kohei Uchimura Artur Dalaloyan Nikita Nagornyy Sam Mikulak Yul Moldauer Any Other Athlete Women's All-Around Day 4 November 1st 2018 Ellie Black x Chen Yile x Mel. de Jesus dos Santos Mai Murakami Aliya Mustafina Angelina Melnikova Simone Biles x Morgan Hurd Riley McCusker Grace McCallum Any Other Athlete Men's Floor Day 5 November 2nd 2018 Tomas Gonzalez Rayderley Zapata Dominick Cunningham Frank Baines Max Whitlock Artem Dolgopyat x Kenzo Shirai x Kohei Uchimura Artur Dalaloyan Dmitrii Lankin Any Other Athlete x Women's Vault Day 5 November 2nd 2018 Shallon Olsen Liu Jinru Coline Devillard Ellie Downie Boglarka Devai Pyon Rye-yong Yeo Seo-jeong x Angelina Melnikova Simone Biles x Oksana Chusovitina x Any Other Athlete Men's Pommel Horse Day 5 November 2nd 2018 Max Whitlock x Rhys McClenaghan Lee Chih-kai x Alec Yoder Sun Wei Zou Jingyuan Sam Mikulak Robert Seligman Saso Bertoncelj x Harutyun Merdinyan Any Other Athlete Women's Uneven Bars Day 5 November 2nd 2018 Nina Derwael x Chen Yile x Liu Tingting Luo Huan Becky Downie Elizabeth Seitz Aliya Mustafina x Angelina Melnikova Daria Spiridonova Riley McCusker Any Other Athlete Men's Rings Day 5 November 2nd 2018 Vahagn Davtyan Dennis Goossens Arthur Zanetti Manrique Larduet x Courtney Tulloch Kohei Uchimura Fabian de Luna Nikita Nagornyy Ibrahim Colak Igor Radivilov x Any Other Athlete x Men's Vault Day 6 November 3rd 2018 Christopher Remkes Manrique Larduet Loris Frasca Courtney Tulloch Dominick Cunningham x Andrey Medvedev Artur Dalaloyan Dmitrii Lankin x Igor Radivilov x Thanh Tung Le Any Other Athlete Women's Balance Beam Day 6 November 3rd 2018 Flavia Saraiva Chen Yile x Luo Huan Marine Boyer Mel. de Jesus dos Santos Sanne Wevers Grace McCallum Kara Eaker Morgan Hurd x Simone Biles x Any Other Athlete Men's Parallel Bars Day 6 November 3rd 2018 Xiao Ruoteng x Zou Jingyuan x Jossimar Calvo Manrique Larduet Kohei Uchimura David Belyavskiy x Artur Dalaloyan Nikita Nagornyy Oliver Hegi Sam Mikulak Any Other Athlete Women's Floor Day 6 November 3rd 2018 Flavia Saraiva Brooklyn Moors Mel. de Jesus dos Santos x Lara Mori Mai Murakami x Denisa Golgota Angelina Melnikova Grace McCallum Morgan Hurd Simone Biles x Any Other Athlete Men's Horizontal Bar Day 6 November 3rd 2018 Deng Shudi Xiao Ruoteng x Tin Srbic x Manrique Larduet Marios Georgiou Andreas Toba Kohei Uchimura Epke Zonderland x Oliver Hegi Sam Mikulak Any Other Athlete [/hide]

Listened all the songs and votes sent: as usual a great opportunity to discover new songs and have a glimpse of others countries but also a source of some questions. Why a backstreet boy sang with a Finnish rapper? Are they still in touch? @dcro Why in the Croatian video are there some scenes from Scary Movie 3?

[hide] Finals October 19th - October 20th, 2018 6 Nations, Placement Matches, Semifinals, Bronze Medal Match and Gold Medal Match Bronze Medal Match Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 20th 2018, h. 17:20 Netherlands 1 3 China Gold Medal Match Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 20th 2018, h. 19:40 Serbia 2 3 Italy [/hide]

I don't know if you received an answer but I'd like you to join the contest. Anyway you can enjoy the songs for sure-

[hide] Finals October 19th - October 20th, 2018 6 Nations, Placement Matches, Semifinals, Bronze Medal Match and Gold Medal Match Semifinals Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 19th 2018, h. 13:40 Serbia 3 0 Netherlands October 19th 2018, h. 16:10 China 3 2 Italy [/hide]

[hide] Third Round October 14th - October 16th, 2018 6 Nations, 2 Groups, the 1st and 2nd Nations from each Group will qualify for the Semifinals Group G Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 14th 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 1 3 Serbia October 15th 2018, h. 19:20 Italy 3 2 Japan October 16th 2018, h. 16:10 Italy 1 3 Serbia Group H Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 14th 2018, h. 16:10 China 3 1 United States October 15th 2018, h. 16:10 Netherlands 2 3 United States October 16th 2018, h. 19:20 Netherlands 1 3 China [/hide]

[hide] Second Round October 7th - October 11th, 2018 16 Nations, 2 Groups, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Nations from each Group will qualify for the Third Round Group E Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 7th 2018, h. 10:40 Mexico 0 3 Serbia October 7th 2018, h. 13:25 Germany 0 3 Brazil October 7th 2018, h. 16:10 Netherlands 3 0 Puerto Rico October 7th 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 3 2 Dominican Republic October 8th 2018, h. 10:40 Germany 0 3 Serbia October 8th 2018, h. 13:25 Mexico 0 3 Brazil October 8th 2018, h. 16:10 Netherlands 3 1 Dominican Republic October 8th 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 3 0 Puerto Rico October 10th 2018, h. 10:40 Mexico 0 3 Dominican Republic October 10th 2018, h. 13:25 Netherlands 1 3 Brazil October 10th 2018, h. 16:10 Germany 3 1 Puerto Rico October 10th 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 2 3 Serbia October 11th 2018, h. 10:40 Mexico 0 3 Puerto Rico October 11th 2018, h. 13:25 Germany 1 3 Dominican Republic October 11th 2018, h. 16:10 Netherlands 1 3 Serbia October 11th 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 2 3 Brazil Group F Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 October 7th 2018, h. 10:40 Turkey 1 3 Russia October 7th 2018, h. 13:25 Bulgaria 0 3 United States October 7th 2018, h. 16:10 Italy 3 0 Azerbaijan October 7th 2018, h. 19:20 China 3 0 Thailand October 8th 2018, h. 10:40 Bulgaria 0 3 Russia October 8th 2018, h. 13:25 Turkey 1 3 United States October 8th 2018, h. 16:10 China 3 0 Azerbaijan October 8th 2018, h. 19:20 Italy 3 0 Thailand October 10th 2018, h. 10:40 Turkey 3 0 Azerbaijan October 10th 2018, h. 13:25 Bulgaria 3 1 Thailand October 10th 2018, h. 16:10 Italy 2 3 Russia October 10th 2018, h. 19:20 China 3 2 United States October 11th 2018, h. 10:40 Bulgaria 3 0 Azerbaijan October 11th 2018, h. 13:25 Turkey 3 1 Thailand October 11th 2018, h. 16:10 Italy 2 3 United States October 11th 2018, h. 19:20 China 3 1 Russia [/hide]

And I was right: 21th in volley 15th rowing 7th horses But unexpectedly 3rd in basket! I want to thank @africaboy that chivalrously "forget" to make predictions in order to allow a girl to win a medal in the women prediction contest, I really appreciated it! Remember that it's not necessary to do the same thing in in women volley prediction because I'm almost last Great job @thepharoah and @rybak gold medals well deserved! Wonderful perfomance by Poland team! A month full of predictions and a medal for our manager @Wanderer: well done (and very good the new system for basket).

[hide] Knockout Round September 26th - September 30th, 2018 12 Nations, Quarterfinal Play-Offs, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Bronze Medal Match and Gold Medal Match Bronze Medal Match Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 30th 2018, h. 17:30 Belgium 5 Spain Gold Medal Match Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 30th 2018, h. 20:00 Australia 12 United States [/hide]

[hide] Bronze Medal Match Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 30th 2018, h. 17:00 Serbia 2 3 United States Gold Medal Match Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 30th 2018, h. 20:30 Brazil 3 1 Poland [/hide]

[hide] Knockout Round September 26th - September 30th, 2018 12 Nations, Quarterfinal Play-Offs, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Bronze Medal Match and Gold Medal Match Semifinals Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 29th 2018, h. 17:30 Belgium 25 United States September 29th 2018, h. 20:00 Spain 2 Australia [/hide]

[hide] Semifinals Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 29th 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 2 3 Serbia September 29th 2018, h. 20:30 Poland 1 3 United States [/hide]

[hide] Knockout Round September 26th - September 30th, 2018 12 Nations, Quarterfinal Play-Offs, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Bronze Medal Match and Gold Medal Match Quarterfinals Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 28th 2018, h. 11:30 United States 21 Nigeria September 28th 2018, h. 14:00 Australia 15 China September 28th 2018, h. 17:30 Belgium 5 France September 28th 2018, h. 20:00 Canada 6 Spain [/hide]

[hide] Knockout Round September 26th - September 30th, 2018 12 Nations, Quarterfinal Play-Offs, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Bronze Medal Match and Gold Medal Match Quarterfinal Play-Offs Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 26th 2018, h. 11:30 Spain 12 Senegal September 26th 2018, h. 14:00 China 5 Japan September 26th 2018, h. 17:30 Nigeria 7 Greece September 26th 2018, h. 20:00 France 13 Turkey [/hide]

September is giving us new winners: first @suchyy7 in rowing and now @CiroMennella99 in equestrian games. Great work guys! Good job for @dcro it's very difficult to win when you are favourite and everyone is betting on you, maybe without the cancellation of endurance events, the victory will be yours (and I will be out of top-ten). Great performance for the Italian team and our outstanding @Dunadan

[hide] First Round September 29th - October 4th, 2018 24 Nations, 4 Groups, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Nations from each Group will qualify for the Second Round Group A Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 29th 2018, h. 13:10 Mexico 3 2 Cameroon September 29th 2018, h. 15:40 Germany 1 3 Netherlands September 29th 2018, h. 19:20 Argentina 1 3 Japan September 30th 2018, h. 13:40 Cameroon 0 3 Germany September 30th 2018, h. 16:10 Argentina 3 0 Mexico September 30th 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 1 3 Netherlands October 1st 2018, h. 13:40 Germany 3 0 Argentina October 1st 2018, h. 16:10 Netherlands 3 0 Cameroon October 1st 2018, h. 19:20 Mexico 2 3 Japan October 3rd 2018, h. 13:40 Argentina 0 3 Netherlands October 3rd 2018, h. 16:10 Mexico 0 3 Germany October 3rd 2018, h. 19:20 Japan 3 0 Cameroon October 4th 2018, h. 13:40 Netherlands 3 0 Mexico October 4th 2018, h. 16:10 Cameroon 0 3 Argentina October 4th 2018, h. 19:20 Germany 2 3 Japan Group B Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 29th 2018, h. 13:40 Bulgaria 0 3 Italy September 29th 2018, h. 16:10 Turkey 3 1 Canada September 29th 2018, h. 19:20 China 3 0 Cuba September 30th 2018, h. 13:40 Canada 1 3 Italy September 30th 2018, h. 16:10 Cuba 3 2 Bulgaria September 30th 2018, h. 19:20 Turkey 1 3 China October 2nd 2018, h. 13:40 Italy 3 0 Cuba October 2nd 2018, h. 16:10 Bulgaria 1 3 Turkey October 2nd 2018, h. 19:20 China 3 0 Canada October 3rd 2018, h. 13:40 Turkey 2 3 Italy October 3rd 2018, h. 16:10 Canada 3 1 Cuba October 3rd 2018, h. 19:20 China 3 0 Bulgaria October 4th 2018, h. 13:40 Bulgaria 2 3 Canada October 4th 2018, h. 16:10 Cuba 1 3 Turkey October 4th 2018, h. 19:20 Italy 0 3 China Group C Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 29th 2018, h. 13:40 Russia 3 0 Trinidad and Tobago September 29th 2018, h. 16:10 Azerbaijan 0 3 United States September 29th 2018, h. 19:20 South Korea 3 2 Thailand September 30th 2018, h. 13:40 United States 3 0 Trinidad and Tobago September 30th 2018, h. 16:10 Azerbaijan 3 1 South Korea September 30th 2018, h. 19:20 Thailand 0 3 Russia October 2nd 2018, h. 13:40 Russia 3 1 Azerbaijan October 2nd 2018, h. 16:10 Trinidad and Tobago 1 3 Thailand October 2nd 2018, h. 19:20 United States 3 1 South Korea October 3rd 2018, h. 13:40 Azerbaijan 3 1 Trinidad and Tobago October 3rd 2018, h. 16:10 South Korea 0 3 Russia October 3rd 2018, h. 19:20 Thailand 0 3 United States October 4th 2018, h. 13:40 Trinidad and Tobago 0 3 South Korea October 4th 2018, h. 16:10 Thailand 0 3 Azerbaijan October 4th 2018, h. 19:20 Russia 2 3 United States Group D Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 29th 2018, h. 13:40 Puerto Rico 0 3 Brazil September 29th 2018, h. 16:10 Dominican Republic 1 3 Serbia September 29th 2018, h. 19:20 Kazakhstan 3 0 Kenya September 30th 2018, h. 13:40 Brazil 3 1 Dominican Republic September 30th 2018, h. 16:10 Kazakhstan 3 2 Puerto Rico September 30th 2018, h. 19:20 Kenya 0 3 Serbia October 1st 2018, h. 13:40 Dominican Republic 3 1 Kazakhstan October 1st 2018, h. 16:10 Puerto Rico 3 0 Kenya October 1st 2018, h. 19:20 Serbia 2 3 Brazil October 3rd 2018, h. 13:40 Puerto Rico 1 3 Dominican Republic October 3rd 2018, h. 16:10 Kazakhstan 1 3 Serbia October 3rd 2018, h. 19:20 Kenya 0 3 Brazil October 4th 2018, h. 13:40 Serbia 3 0 Puerto Rico October 4th 2018, h. 16:10 Dominican Republic 3 0 Kenya October 4th 2018, h. 19:20 Brazil 3 0 Kazakhstan [/hide]

[hide] Third Round September 26th - September 28th, 2018 6 Nations, 2 Groups, the 1st and 2nd Nations from each Group will qualify for Semifinals Group I Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 26th 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 3 1 Russia September 27th 2018, h. 17:00 United States 1 3 Russia September 28th 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 2 3 United States Group J Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 26th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 2 Serbia September 27th 2018, h. 20:30 Poland 1 3 Serbia September 28th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 1 Poland [/hide]

Italy 883 - Nord sud ovest est It was 1993 and we sang all the summer this song about travel, adventure, search for love and find yourself. 883 was a band made by Max Pezzali the singer and Mauro Repetto the "dancer", they both wrote the song. The name 883 comes from an Harley-Davidson model. Hope you enjoy it! Ma perché sei andata via Mi son persa nella notte Perché non m'hai detto che non eri mia Non lo so Sarà il vento o sarai tu La voce che risponde ai miei perché Dai galoppa più che puoi Corri vai non ti fermare Che di strada ce n'è ancora tanta sai Si lo so Vedo una cantina che Mi potrà toglier sete e polvere Lancio qualche peso al cantinero Che non parla mai Accanto a me c'è un gringo, uno straniero Mi chiede Man, dove vai? Nord Sud Ovest Est E forse quel che cerco neanche c'è Nord Sud Ovest Est Starò cercando lei o forse me Tra deserto e prateria Ma perché ti sei fermato Ero stanco ed affamato, amica mia Si lo so Le capanne, una tribù Dal basso lo stregone guarda in su Uomo bianco, vieni qui Stai attento non ci andare! Posso leggerti il futuro se lo vuoi Di di no! Gli sorrido, dico ok Nei sassolini osserva i fatti miei Viso pallido, ti sta ingannando Non la troverai Sono mesi che stai cavalcando Dimmi dove andrai Nord Sud Ovest Est E forse quel che cerco neanche c'è Nord Sud Ovest Est Starò cercando lei o forse me La città è in festa e tu Finalmente sei arrivato Hai lo sguardo scuro non mi guardi più Si lo so Il caballero accanto a te Perché ti sta abbracciando e guarda me Accarezzo un po' la colt Dio ti prego non lo fare! Poi mi giro, guardo il cielo, dove andrò Adios, mi amor! Ballan tutti intorno a me Sotto i colori delle lampade Ed il vento mi sta sussurrando Non ti fermerai C'è qualcuno che ti sta aspettando Tu sai dove andrai Nord Sud Ovest Est E forse quel che cerco neanche c'è Nord Sud Ovest Est Starò cercando lei o forse me Nord Sud Ovest Est E forse quel che cerco neanche c'è Nord Sud Ovest Est Starò cercando lei o forse me

[hide] Preliminary Round September 22nd - September 25th, 2018 16 Nations, 4 Groups, the 1st Nation from each Group will qualify for the Quarterfinals, the 2nd and the 3rd Nations from each Group will qualify for Quarterfinals Play-Offs Group A Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 22nd 2018, h. 13:30 South Korea 30 France September 22nd 2018, h. 17:30 Greece 17 Canada September 23rd 2018, h. 11:30 Canada 32 South Korea September 23rd 2018, h. 17:30 France 15 Greece September 25th 2018, h. 13:30 South Korea 11 Greece September 25th 2018, h. 20:30 Canada 5 France Group B Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 22nd 2018, h. 11:30 Australia 17 Nigeria September 22nd 2018, h. 14:00 Turkey 7 Argentina September 23rd 2018, h. 11:00 Argentina 12 Australia September 23rd 2018, h. 20:30 Nigeria 9 Turkey September 25th 2018, h. 11:30 Australia 11 Turkey September 25th 2018, h. 17:30 Argentina 15 Nigeria Group C Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 22nd 2018, h. 20:00 Japan 27 Spain September 22nd 2018, h. 20:30 Puerto Rico 5 Belgium September 23rd 2018, h. 13:30 Belgium 11 Japan September 23rd 2018, h. 20:00 Spain 17 Puerto Rico September 25th 2018, h. 11:00 Japan 6 Puerto Rico September 25th 2018, h. 20:00 Belgium 8 Spain Group D Date & Time (GMT +1) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 22nd 2018, h. 11:00 Latvia 7 China September 22nd 2018, h. 18:00 United States 35 Senegal September 23rd 2018, h. 14:00 Senegal 5 Latvia September 23rd 2018, h. 18:00 China 28 United States September 25th 2018, h. 14:00 Senegal 11 China September 25th 2018, h. 18:00 Latvia 32 United States [/hide]

[hide] Second Round September 21st - September 23rd, 2018 16 Nations, 4 Groups, the 1st Nation from each Group and 2 best 2nd placed Nations between all Groups will qualify for the Third Round Group E Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 Netherlands 2 3 Russia September 21st 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 1 Finland September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Netherlands 3 1 Finland September 22nd 2018, h. 21:15 Russia 3 2 Italy September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 Russia 3 0 Finland September 23rd 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 1 Netherlands Group F Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 3 1 Australia September 21st 2018, h. 20:30 Belgium 3 2 Slovenia September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Australia 1 3 Belgium September 22nd 2018, h. 20:30 Slovenia 0 3 Brazil September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 Slovenia 3 1 Australia September 23rd 2018, h. 20:30 Belgium 2 3 Brazil Group G Date & Time (GMT +3) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 United States 3 0 Canada September 21st 2018, h. 20:40 Bulgaria 3 2 Iran September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Iran 3 1 Canada September 22nd 2018, h. 20:40 Bulgaria 2 3 United States September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 United States 3 2 Iran September 23rd 2018, h. 20:40 Bulgaria 3 1 Canada Group H Date & Time (GMT +3) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 Serbia 3 2 France September 21st 2018, h. 20:40 Poland 3 1 Argentina September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Serbia 3 1 Argentina September 22nd 2018, h. 20:40 Poland 3 2 France September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 France 3 2 Argentina September 23rd 2018, h. 20:40 Poland 2 3 Serbia [/hide]

@Dunadan can't be disqualified because he posted the predictions first and he can't spy on the others because he isn't an admin. I know that @vlad can see the predictions of all the users but I don't think he cheated because 1) if he wanted to copy the results, he would make a better work for avoiding to be discovered: copy all results except a bronze medal is quite stupid because you can easily be discovered 2) there aren't so many teams/athlets and there aren't so many races in this competition so similar results can happen because we don't have so many players 3) vlad is an experienced user and I don't remember a single time when he was less than correct in the predictions contests so I can't believe that after so many years he decided to copy for win I think that we should consider these similar predictions (if we don't have any proof) an unfortunate event and keep both in the final standings. For the future the best thing is that the prediction manager checks before (or just at the beginning) if an admin has very similar predictions with an other user and ask for him to modify them (I know more work for @Wanderer but less problems in the end ). Anyway I will accept any decision took by the predictions committee.

Happy to announce that the Italian committee has chosen the song for the competition: here some tips to tease your curiosity, it's - in Italian (of course), - performed by a band - from the previous century - not so famous (it doesn't have an English page on Wikipedia) The bets are open

Very happy to see so many contenders in vollyeball! We have 3 contests in a row and it's difficult to predict in which I'm going to get the best result. If I have to bet on my performance I'd say that I'm going to get more points in horses and less in volley because in the latter I'm too emotionally involved (go Italy)

I'm in for Italy. Beautiful the new section!

Done rowing prediction, for the next time is it possible to have also the acronym? I'm still not sure if Men's pair is really M2- that is what I predict or M2+