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Ok cheers. I think it's best I leave the list as it is as it'll get clogged up with swimmers who'll most likely won't qualify as an OCT. But I'm glad you told me this as not only is it less work for me to do but I now know that only James Guy can compete for us in the 100m Fly instead of Joe Litchfield who I originally thought would do so.

Sorry poorly worded and a stupid and pathetic question. So would an NOC be able to get around a relay only athlete competing in an individual by getting them in via OCT and then also using them in the relay, or would that be too risky incase there aren't enough OCT spaces (basically wanna know if I have to change my list or not to include relay only/potential relay only athletes with OCT times)?

So relay only swimmers can't enter individual events unless they have the OQT?

As I mentioned above, the athletes on the list are only the athletes who need spots to open up after OQT, relay only and universality quotas are decided. The relay-only athletes may have to still technically be "invited" but they'd still have free range to compete as they can't take up 2 athlete quotas (relay-only and OCT). But if you want me to I'm happy to put these athletes in brackets and slot them into where they'd be if they weren't qualified via relays. Also regarding your first point, not every event has available athletes for OCT selection as some have athletes from countries that have at least one NOC with the OQT and/or athletes who already have OQT and/or OCT times from other events.

If I'm not mistaken Oleksiak has been selected for one of the relays meaning she can enter the event without having to worry about getting one of the last OCT spots as she is part of the second part of the athlete total which is relay only athletes (relay athletes which haven't achieved an OQT). The athletes on the above list are once that can only qualify if spots open up once OQT, relay only and universality quotas are confirmed.

To my knowledge BA don't have a cap on how many they're taking, so realistically he shouldn't have to worry about this.

Apologies for the delay, wanted to make sure everything accurate and factually correct on the OCT eligibility side. When adding up the qualified individual and relay athletes I got a final number of 594. Due to all the relay athletes not being announced this number I had to make an educated guess fora couple of the relay nations so this number may be 3 or 4 out either side. I then added all the possible universality quotas which got me to a total of 319 before combining those numbers to get to 913. I then divided 319 by 4 as I expect about 50 - 60 of the countries eligible for 2 universality quotas to only take up 1 or potentially none at all and about 15-20 of the countries eligible for 1 universality quota to reject it, this left me with 79.75 that I rounded up to 80. I then subtracted 80 from the 913 total to get a final estimate of 833, meaning 19 quotas would be available for OCT athletes. With that said here is every athlete that is eligible to qualify via OCT after OQT, relay and universality quotas are dished out in order of their priority: - Heiko Gigler - Men’s 100m Free - 909 points ( - Bar Soloveychik - Men's 400m Free - 907 points) - Jeremy Desplanches - Men’s 200m IM - 901 points ( - Jan Kalusowski - Men's 200m Breastroke - 895 points) ( - Penny Oleksiak - Women's 100m Free - 894 points) - Tomas Koski - Men’s 200m Free - 880 points - Janja Segel - Women’s 200m Free - 880 points ( - Connor Ferguson - Men's 100m Back - 878 points) ( - Luca Armbruster - Men's 100m Fly - 876 points) - Henrietta Fangli - Women's 100m Breastroke - 873 points - Jessica Vall Montero - Women’s 200m Breastroke - 872 points ( - Martine Damborg - Women's 100m Fly - 871 points) - Santiago Grassi - Men’s 100m Fly - 870 points - Agostina Hein - Women’s 800m Free - 863 points - Francisca Soares Martins - Women’s 400m Free - 858 points - Ali Khalafalla - Men’s 50m Free - 856 points - John Shortt - Men's 200m Back - 855 points - Ching Hwee Gan - Women’s 1500m Free - 852 points - Laura Cabanes Garzas - Women’s 200m Fly - 841 points - Aissia Claudia Prisecariu - Women’s 200m Back - 830 points - Zac Reid - Men's 400m Free - 900 points - Berke Saka - Men’s 200m IM - 897 points - En Yi Letitia Sim - Women’s 200m Breastroke - 895 points ( - Cesar Castro - Men's 200m Free - 879 points) ( - Sofia Morini - Women's 200m Free - 878 points) - Denis-Lauren Popescu - Men's 100m Back - 873 points ( - Pauline Peda - Women's 100m Fly - 868 points) ( - Bernhard Rietshammer - Men's 100m Breastroke - 865 points) ( - Max Mc Cusker - Men's 100m Fly - 864 points) - Youssef Ramadan - Men’s 100 Fly - 863 points - Kaloyan Bratanov - Men’s 50m Free - 853 points- - Lotte Hosper - Women's 200m Back - 830 points ( - Kamil Sieradzki - Men's 200m Free - 875 points) ( Konstantinos Englezakis - Men's 200m Free - 871 points) - Emre Sakci - Men’s 50m Free - 852 points Other than the potential of the likes of and rejecting some of these OCT quotas, this should all be factually correct and accurate.

He's got the standard so the invite will be accepted.

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It does mean that he can be selected despite not turning up but I think in this context it gives him another chance to ensure his selection at London DL if 2 others get the OQT and finish top 3 in trials. Either way BA/UKA will make up their own rules to ensure Wightman gets in at the expense of others who did things by the book.

Wightman has been given medical exemption, meaning that even if 2 of the above get the OQT Wightman will get another chance to get in ahead of one of them before the games.

Wightman must've been told that he can still get on the team if he achieves a fast enough time at the London DL. That's the only logical reason bar him being too hurt to compete in Paris than can be drawn from this. I'm only thinking this because Chalmers said in an interview with the BBC that if he doesn't get the OQT here then he might be given once more chance at the London DL before they reject his invite.

If reallocations are based off the first scenario then the following athletes lose their quotas: Enej Marinic (Men's +100kg) Krystyna Homan (Women's +78kg) Moira Morillo (Women's +78kg) Magdiel Estrada (Men's -71kg) The second scenario states unchanged. In terms of the potential Universality/Continental returned quotas, the second scenario once again staying the same with the only change on the first scenario being Magdiel Estrada slotting in behind Achraf Moutti.

Not too worried about some of these withdrawals, most just seem like small niggles that the athletes in question don't want to risk becoming worse with London DL still to come as an Olympic preparation event.

Yeah no worries mate. I'm not bothered by you correcting me by the way, when I said that I was just letting out my personal frustration at once again interpreting something wrong as I've been doing that a lot recently.

Are they the only 2 or are there more to be announced?

You are right, my mistake again. Both the above lists have now been updated.

I'm just wondering, since you think Israel should be banned do you think that Palestine should be banned also for the horrible things they've done to Israel?

No you are right, the way you interpret it is correct. By the way since your new here, feel free to correct me whenever I've said or interpreted something factually wrong. I'm not very good at interpreting things and often do so wrong.

I'm currently in the process of creating a list which estimates how many OCT quotas will be available and which athletes are eligible for them.

Oh right, so they can still be entered then?

The days before the opening ceremony are classed as minus days, so in a way they're not "official" Olympic days. Therefore they wouldn't count towards this.

That's not the case. In point 2 of the OCT section of this document https://www.worldaquatics.com/competitions/paris-2024-swimming-info it states that any athlete who has achieved an OCT but also an OQT in another event will have their place reallocated to the next fastest OCT in that athletes OCT event. The only exception I believe to the OQT and OCT rules is that an athlete who has achieved an OCT time can enter an event that their NOC already has 1 or 2 OQT for if said NOC rejects all OQT places achieved. E.g. Joe Litchfield will be able to compete in the Men's 100m Fly in Paris despite not having the OQT because will reject Peters and Gammon's OQT quotas before the OCT and universality quotas are awarded.

There are also 15 Universality Quotas up for grabs across all weight classes. Following the scenarios above, here are the reallocations for both scenarios in order (I expect at most 7 or 8 to to be reallocated): First Scenario: Ana Viktorija Puljiz (Women's -52kg) Telma Monteiro (Women's -57kg) Mina Lebber (Women's -57kg) Aleksandra Kaleta (Women's -52kg) Ida Eriksson (Women's -70kg) Anton Savytskiy (Men's -100kg) Lachlan Moorhead (Men's -81kg) Medickson Del Orbe Cotorreal (Men's -81kg) Enej Marinic (Men's +100kg) k Maria Siderot (Women's -52kg) Bold Gankhaich (Women's -63kg) Arleta Podolak (Women's -57kg) Mykhailo Svidrak (Men's -81kg) George Udsilauri (Men's -100kg) Sami Chouchi (Men's -90kg) Second Scenario: Magdiel Estrada (Men's -73kg) Lachlan Moorhead (Men's -81kg) Muhammed Demiral (Men's -66kg) Medickson Del Orbe Cotorreal (Men's -81kg) Maria Siderot (Women's -52kg) Bold Gankhaich (Women's -63kg) Arleta Podolak (Women's -57kg) Mykhailo Svidrak (Men's -81kg) George Udsilauri (Men's -100kg) Sami Chouchi (Men's -90kg) Sarai Padilla Guerrero (Women's -63kg) Luana Carvahlo (Women's -70kg) Aurelien Bonferroni (Men's -73kg) Adam Kopecky (Men's -73kg) Yevheniy Balyevskyy (Men's +100kg)

Based on what @Adriano and @phelps have said, here are 2 other perspectives of how the Russian quotas could be reallocated: If the quotas are reallocated via direct rankings: Women's -48kg: Sabina Giliazova reallocated to Tamar Malca Women's -52kg: DNQ Women's -57kg: Daria Kurbonmamadova reallocated to Shukurjon Aminova Women's -63kg: Dali Liluashvili reallocated to Krystyna Homan (Continental Quota - Women's +78kg) Women's -70kg: Madina Taimazova reallocated to Tais Pina Women's -78kg: DNQ Women's +78kg: Elis Startseva reallocated to Moira Morillo Men's -60kg: Ramazan Abdulaev reallocated to Andrea Carlino Men's -66kg: Murad Chopanov reallocated to Muhammed Demiral Men's -73kg: Makhmadbek Makhmadbekov reallocated to Magdiel Estrada Men's -81kg: Timur Arbuzov reallocated to Achraf Moutti Men's -90kg: Mikhail Igolnikov reallocated to Eduard Trippel Men's -100kg: Matvey Kanikovsky reallocated to Zsombor Veg Men's +100kg: Inal Tasoev reallocated to Enej Marinic If the quotas are reallocated the same way the returned quotas are then the following 12 athletes would replace the 12 : Achraf Moutti (Men's -81kg) Ida Eriksson (Women's -70kg) Eduard Trippel (Men's -90kg) Zsombor Veg (Men's -100kg) Tamar Malca (Women's -48kg) Ana Viktorija Puljiz (Women's -52kg) Aleksandra Kaleta (Women's -52kg) Shukurjon Aminova (Women's -57kg) Telma Monteiro (Women's -57kg) Mina Lebber (Women's -57kg) Tais Pina (Women's -70kg) Anton Savytskiy (Men's -100kg)