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what about Kuwait's situation ? will they disqualify Kuwait to annul their results ? because in this case Lebanon can finish 2nd with 12pts  (if they beat MYA today) ! otherwise there is no chance for 2nd placed team in this group

52 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Ah right, I remember you writing about the athletes getting way too much freedom. If I'm remembering correctly, Salimi was among those who preferred to stay up at night playing PlayStation? 

Yep indeed he was, he got seriously injured weeks before 2015 Worlds, (video of his injury is available on the net) under training program of his favorite coach Tavakoli, he is back after a knee surgery and started his training only yesterday, it's not clear if he can recover to his old shape in time for Rio or not. at the moment I don't count on him.

at the moment Iran has only 1+1 medal chances, Kianoush Rostami and Sohrab Moradi (and i know you won't like him as a former doper !). Moradi is back after a 2 years (and plus) suspension. since the previous federation announced his retirement to IWF , he could not particpiate even after the suspension, he is supposed to be clear to compete in couple of months but the problem is he has to compete in two IWF sanctioned event before Rio to become eligible. he will miss the Asian Champs, but can participate in IWF Grand Prix in Tehran . still needs one more tournament which apparently IWF will invite him for Pan-American Championship in Colombia ! that's what Tamas Ajan (IWF president) promised to the Iran federation.

ps, Moradi's training record was something +20kg more than Gold medalists record in World Championship.

40 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Who was the previous coach? 

 

How are the relationships/workings in Iranian weightlifting? For example, in Dutch speed skating there's commercial teams (like in cycling) who of course all have their own coaches, and a "national coach" who mostly doesn't have a lot of real power because the athletes train with their commercial teams. 

 

I seem to remember there are different camps who are strongly opposed to each other in Iranian weightlifting?

That's a LONG story. we had 4 different coaches in past 4 years.

Kourosh Bagheri led the team to win 4 medals in London, before that Coup d'état in 2013. he had to send a very young team which still finished 3rd with a silver medal and four 4th-place finishes. he resigned later, he had a heart attack and could not handle all those pressure on him anymore. they appointed another coach "Bahman Zare" who was NOT successful in 2014 Asian Games and 2014 Worlds then they replaced him with the mastermind of that Coup d'état 2000 Olympic Champion "Hossein Tavakkoli" !! Tavakkoli was junior team coach when some of these athletes were junior and provoked them against his former teammate Bagheri. Those weightlifters love Tavakkoli because he gave them so much freedom ! they could stay for the night, playing play station etc.

later we had some changes inside the federation and the new president probably didn't want to work with Tavakkoli but had no other option since they had only limitted time before the 2015 worlds which turned out to be disastrous for Iran ! thanks to his training, we got so many injured weightlifters. most importantly Mohammadpour and Salimi, Ironically they didn't fire Tavakoli after his poor results in USA, but they fired him few months later, only few months before Rio !

even though they appointed Anoushiravani as the head coach but they also hired a Bulgarian coach probably to supervise him.

^^

Iran has to lose 8-0 to Oman to get eliminated. I think they are pretty safe.

the real competition is the next round

It seems we have to consider one quota for China in each weight they are unbeatable so far and even their unknown boxers are beating former world medalists. no stream but we know how things work in boxing so I think Navi and Gholami are already out as they have to face China in next round.

After losing few times in quarterfinals (mostly 15-14) Abedini finally made it to the semifinal (and later to the final) in a Grand Prix (or World Cup) event and with this he made history to win Iran's first ever medal in this level of competition.

he also qualified himself and his teammate Pakdaman for Rio

17 hours ago, JoshMartini007 said:

How did Papua New Guinea get the 3 seed in the -75kg? He's not event the best boxer in Oceania.

nope, per this ranking (which is stupid IMO) he is the 3rd seed

http://d152tffy3gbaeg.cloudfront.net/2015/09/1-mens-7.pdf

btw, we already lost one boxer ! and another one barely beat Papua New Guinea !! I think even one quota will be a good result for such a weak team. I hope Mehrabi makes it at least.

The only new sport for Iran can be Volleyball, if they qualify in Japan !

we could debut in Handball if it wasn't a world selection team called Qatar

they are trying their chance in Slalom Canoeing and Beach Volleyball but no realistic chance.

4 minutes ago, MantaRaymarc said:

Kindly post the FB link for easier access. Thanks!

here

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1145253698826763&id=608788485806623

9 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

WC is something different than the World Championships which had a shitload of positives already?

no I mean the same ! after months, finally they are releasing their final verdict, this guy was the first one

check here for the sanctions

http://www.iwf.net/anti-doping/sanctions/

and this for the updated results

http://www.iwf.net/results/results-by-events/?event=341

And finally we have the first confirmed positive test from 2015 WC. BAZARBAYEV Umurbek of Turkmenistan.

Draws are out for Asian Boxing Qualification tourney. you can find them on ASBC facebook account.

none of our boxers will face Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan before the semifinal which means they can't complain ! but since the whole team is in terrible situation I will be happy with two quotas. best chances are in 75, +91.and maybe 91.

1 hour ago, dareza said:

So,Russia-Italy and Greece-USA will be first place in groups.

if I understand the rules correctly, if RUS and ITA finish tied with less than 8 goals, NED will top the group

btw, in general tie breaking is a bit complicated in this sport

if they finish 9-9, their match against the winner of FRA/GER match determine the group winner lol

Page 60, here

http://www.fina.org/sites/default/files/fina_wp_referees_manual.pdf

Serbia might get a gold medal after all, rumor says Islambek Albiev is also in the list, actually almost the whole Greco-Roman team.

but again these are still rumors, even though very serious rumors.

1 minute ago, DaniSRB said:

who will get  Semenov's medal from EC?

Usually, Amoyan will take the gold, Islamov the silver and Fris the bronze medal

 bust still remember these news are still unofficial

based on my researches so far, here is the list of Russian wrestlers who failed the drug test to far, all of them accomplished wrestlers in Greco-Roman

1) Artem Surkov

2) Mingiyan Semenov

3) Davit Chakvetadze

4) Evgeny Saleev

5) Stepan Maryanyan

6) Sergey Semenov

except the last name, the rest are famous, Surkov, M, Semenov and Saleev are World or Olympic medalists while Maryanyan and Chakvetadze are European champions

now it comes to wrestling !

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-wrestling-russia-idUSKCN0WO0ZG

A bit about selection process:

in Athletics and Boxing, whoever wins the quota should to go Rio without any question

in Archery, Shooting, whoever wins the quota most probably will be sent to Rio,

in Taekwondo, those who qualified through ranking can only be replaced by someone in top 20, in this case Iran has athletes in top 20 in all 3 weights but coaches made it clear than Ashourzadeh, Khodabakhshi and Mardani will go to Rio unless they get injured.

in Cycling, they will announce them after the Cycling season in Iran,

in Weightlifting, they will announce the team few weeks before the games, right now they have 15 weightlifters in the camp but likes of Rostami and Moradi are already safe.

in Wrestling, they had series of trial events and after that they announced a very short list of wrestlers for the final trials in April. in freestyle it will be mostly between two wrestlers in each weight except for 86kg where 4 wrestlers are in the list. also in 125kg they won the quota just today, I'm 99% sure it will be a wrestle-off between Hadi and Ghasemi. in Greco-Roman Abdevali is already selected, we will have a wrestle-off in 98kg and in 85kg, there are 6 wrestlers in the list to wrestle for the spot. beside that they won the 66kg quota just today, I will wait to know their decision about it.

Rio 2016 Olympic Team

Archery (1)

Women's Individual - Zahra Nemati

Athletics (10)

Men's 100m - Hassan Taftian

Men's 100m - Reza Ghasemi

Men's Marathon - Mohammad Jafar Moradi

Men's 20km Walk - Hamid Reza Zouravand

Men's Long Jump - Mohammad Arzandeh

Men's Discus Throw - Ehsan Haddadi

Men's Discus Throw - Mahmoud Samimi

Men's Hammer Throw - Pejman Ghalehnoei

Men's Hammer Throw - Kaveh Mousavi

Women's Shot Put - Leila Rajabi

Boxing (1)

Men's 81kg - Ehsan Rouzbahani

Canoeing Sprint (1)

Men's C1 200m - Adel Mojallali

Cycling Road (3)

Men's Road Race and Individual Time Trial - Ghader Mizbani

Men's Road Race - Arvin Moazzami

Men's Road Race - Samad Pourseyedi

Fencing (2)

Men's Individual Sabre - Mojtaba Abedini

Men's Individual Sabre - Ali Pakdaman

Judo (3)

Men's 66kg - Alireza Khojasteh

Men's 81kg - Saeid Mollaei

Men's 100kg - Javad Mahjoub

Rowing (1)

Women's Single Sculls - Mahsa Javar

Shooting (5)

Men's 10m Air Rifle, Men's 50m Rifle Prone and Men's 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Pouria Norouzian

Women's 10m Air Rifle - Elaheh Ahmadi

Women's 10m Air Rifle and Women's 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Najmeh Khedmati

Women's 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Mahlagha Jambozorg

Women's 10m Air Pistol, Women's 25m Pistol - Golnoush Sebghatollahi

Swimming (1)

Men's 200m Breaststroke - Aria Nasimi Shad

Table Tennis (3)

Men's Singles - Nima Alamian

Men's Singles - Noshad Alamian

Women's Singles - Neda Shahsavari

Taekwondo (4)

Men's 58kg - Farzan Ashourzadeh

Men's 80kg - Mehdi Khodabakhshi

Men's +80kg - Sajjad Mardani

Women's 57kg - Kimia Alizadeh

Volleyball (12)

Men's Team

Weightlifting (5)

Men's 85kg - Kianoush Rostami

Men's 94kg - Ali Hashemi

Men's 94kg - Sohrab Moradi

Men's 105kg - Mohammad Reza Barari

Men's +105kg - Behdad Salimi

Wrestling (12)

Men's 57kg Freestyle - Hassan Rahimi

Men's 65kg Freestyle - Meisam Nassiri

Men's 74kg Freestyle - Hassan Yazdani

Men's 86kg Freestyle - Alireza Karimi

Men's 97kg Freestyle - Reza Yazdani

Men's 125kg Freestyle - Komeil Ghasemi

Men's 59kg Greco-Roman - Hamid Sourian

Men's 66kg Greco-Roman - Omid Norouzi

Men's 75kg Greco-Roman - Saeid Abdevali

Men's 85kg Greco-Roman - Habibollah Akhlaghi

Men's 98kg Greco-Roman - Ghasem Rezaei

Men's 130kg Greco-Roman - Bashir Babajanzadeh

4 hours ago, gvaisakh said:

 

Unexpected quota for us  His quota made up for the disappointment of Satywart (FS 97kg) losing SF yesterday in the last second and Vinesh & Babita in women's section

Satyawart wasn't supposed to beat Musaev but yes he was one second away from the quota and only has himself to blame, what the hell was that Musaev was deadly tired.

btw I watched almost the whole tournament, your Greco wrestlers are no pushover anymore, I see great improvement here, still not that technical but very strong physically and now they can compete with the best in Asia. except for your 59kg and 130kg wrestlers, the rest was really good, that guy Ravinver would qualify if he wasn't in Norouzi's side of draw.

btw where is Amit Kumar ? injured probably ? that would be pity if he doesn't qualify.

At the and, Iran won two quotas here, both Noroozi and K. Ghasemi made it to the final later today. now we have a complete freestyle team. while in Greco, Noroozi just won the quota , he was down 6-0 against the Chinese wrestler but had a great comeback. he is still far from his 2012 shape when he won the gold in London but still he has months left to prepare.

Bahrain despite naturalizing two big names failed to qualify, Abdelfatah (world champion from Egypt 10 years ago) lost to China in semifinal

North Korea also didn't win a single quota, which is indeed surprising. their last chance So Sim-Hyang lost to Vietnam !

here is the list of notable and world level male Asian wrestlers who failed to qualify (or didn't participate)

Freestyle

57: Amit Kumar (IND)

65: Adam Batirov (BRN)

74: Rashid Kurbanov (UZB)

Greco

59: Hamid Sourian (IRN), Elmurat Tasmuradov (UZB)

98: Mohamed Abdelfatah (BRN)

130: Bashir Babajanzadeh (IRN)

Congrats to India for qualifying in Greco-Roman probably after a long time well-deserved quota, this guy Hardeep completely destroyed the host wrestler Assembekov .

4 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Are you sure that Kyrgyzstan "bought" that Russian? Or the Russian just came because he is not the best in Russia? I don't think that Kyrgyzstan is a nation that can afford some athlete shopping.

Yeah you are probably right, Kyrgyzstan probably can't afford that, I wonder if even Bahrain pays Batirov and Abdelfatah for just wrestling under Bahraini flag !? or they will get paid when they win something.

btw it's not like these wrestlers are something special, they are just good to qualify for Rio. except Batirov, none of them can win medal in the Olympics.

Yeerlanbieke Katai of China made the biggest surprise of the day by beating Adam Batirov and winning the quota and I have to say this Chinese guy is really good, i give him chance to win medal in Rio. (China never won a men's freestyle medal) He is already my favorite non-Iranian wrestler

btw Batirov is good but he cuts a lot of weight it won't be easy for him in Mongolia and Turkey.

as for Iran we had our second defeats today this one was expected though, we got better draw for tomorrow, I really hope they win both quotas otherwise it will be catastrophic (even though it's already VERY bad to lose two quotas out of just 4 here) and we can't complain about the draw this time.

also, Kyrgyzstan just bought another Russian wrestler ! Aligadzhi Gamidgadzhiev I wonder how many Russian wrestlers we had here, Batirov, Musaev, Mamed Ibragimov, Magomed Ibragimov, the Qatari guy Ibrahim, Manyurova and there are probably few more I'm not aware of.