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  1. Yeah, the honeymoon is over. Raducanu has a target on her back and no longer can play the underdog card.

     

    Btw, Sasnovich only has three Top 50 wins all season (vs injured Serena Williams at Wimbledon, vs Podoroska at Cleveland and now vs Raducanu in Indian Wells).

  2. In winter sports there is no growing of the sport. On the contrary even, fewer nations are relevant there year after year. Finland has completely fallen off the cliff, first in ski jumping then in cross country. Germany in alpine skiing and not looking all that great in biathlon either. Canada is gone in alpine skiing too. Czech Republic is gone from ski jumping and we're like one Olympic cycle away from Poland being gone too. The ski jumping struggles to even field 50 jumpers at World Cup level these days if the event is held outside of Europe in Russia for instance.

     

    Even if the reason is the growth of freestyle skiing it doesn't explain how former powerhouses are completely irrevelant in certain events. It's been 20 years since the Lahti WC doping fiasco derailed Finnish cross country. That's like two full generations and their answer is a 42 year old RL Roponen?

     

    Putting on mixed relays solves nothing. Cross country goes down with inbreeding and will become more irrelevant year by year. Only Norway, Sweden and Russia seem to care about this sport these days and everyone seems to be fine with it. FIS can sell these new ideas but nobody is buying that.

  3. Rules can alwas be changed on the fly. Who will stop Norway from boosting the team count anyway especially since Russia and Sweden would also be for adding a second or third team if neccessary. Cross country has about three relevant countries left running the show so of course they will get their wish. Anything to further extend Norway's dominance of the sport will be fine.

  4. 2 hours ago, ahjfcshfghb said:

    I actually don't hate this idea for relays because it would make them more competitive esp. for smaller nations. Mixed team sprint seems unnecessary as hell though. CC already has so many events.

    Like which smaller nations? If they allow Norway B, Russia B and Sweden B to compete (duh) then these smaller nations would end up where they are now - without adding another event Norway can dominate :p  The biggest competition is in individual sprints. Relays are basically a wash with the same 5-6 big nations always finishing in Top 5-6 places all the time.

  5. 6 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

    Nothing scripted about it.

     

    Like him or not, that’s up to you.

     

    But this is the reality of a crowded list of interested parties from around the world to hosting the Olympic Games in 2036.

     

    The IOC is triumphant.

     

    2036 Interested Parties
               Media Reports
    Ahmedabad
    14 Jul-21: Olympic Bid: Two agencies in fray to create roadmap for Ahmedabad – Times of India

    2036 Olympics in Ahmedabad - 24Aug21 - Times of India
    Berlin, Tel Aviv
    16 Apr-21: German officials expresses support for a Tel Aviv-Berlin Olympics in 2036
    Budapest
    3 Sep-21: “Budapest 2032 Committee" officially renamed as Hungarian capital continues pursuit to host Olympic Games
    Nanjing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Dalian, Xi'an, Chengdu, Jinan, Xiamen, Zhengzhou, Wuhan, Suzhou
    12 bidding cities for the 2036 Olympic Games - 2Oct21 - MINNEWS
    Odessa
    Odessa bid for 2036 Olympic Games possible, Ukrainian politician Kolesnikov moots - 30Sep21 - Inside The Games
    Florence, Bologna, Tuscany,
    Emilia Romagna
    21 Jul-21: Florence, Bologna, Tuscany and Emilia Romagna, Italy

    2036 Olympics, Giani and Nardella: “Bringing the Summer Games to Italy shouldn’t remain a dream” - 25Jul21 - ConradAtkinson
    Guadalajara
    Guadalajara, Mexico City, Tijuana, Monterrey, Mexico

    Tijuana-San Diego Olympic Project resurfaces by 2036 - 12Jul21 - Around The Rings
    Jakarta
    23 Jul-21: Indonesia to bid for 2036 Olympics after 2032 failure

    After Tokyo 2020, Jakarta aims to secure ASEAN’s first Olympics - 12 Aug21 - Asean Economist
    Rostov-On-Don, Vladivostok, Perm, Novosibirsk, Sochi, Ufa
    At least six regions in Russia are interested in hosting 2036 Olympic Games - 27Sep2021 - Gamesbids.com
    Istanbul
    14 Jul-21: Istanbul Mayor launches bid for 2036 Olympic Games

    We are Assertive in bringing 2036 Games to Istanbul - 30Aug21 - Railly News
    London, Birmingham,
    Liverpool, Manchester
    4 May-21: Khan targets 2036 or 2040 Olympic and Paralympic bid if re-elected London Mayor

    Olympic hosting ground looms after Tokyo - 24Sep2021 - Bolly Inside
    Madrid
    Madrid Mayor denies Spanish capital has joined 2036 Olympic bid race, but door is open - 23 Sep21 - Gamesbids.com

    Madrid Enters 2036 Race, or Not? - 24Sep21 - SwimSwam
    Montreal, Toronto
    3 Feb-21: Montreal and Toronto, Canada’s new Olympic bet

    Olympic hosting ground looms after Tokyo - 24Sep2021 - Bolly Inside
    Rhine Rhur
    12 Jul-21: German Olympic Bid Embraces Flexibility
    South Korea, North Korea
    4 Sep-21: Koreas Push 2032 Olympics for IOC Consideration
     

     

     

    Well, Bach probably won't be in charge of IOC by the time some of these "interested parties" fall off the list. He risks nothing by sending out a list like that. IOC has been long ridiculed as corrupt organization so every bit of positive PR helps. And Australia is one country that will heap praise for IOC after being awarded the SOG in Brisbane. I can understand where you come from.

  6. It's a fine PR talk but everyone knows Olympics are there to make money in the end. The "new" norm will become "old" one way or another. And Qatar & China will still be there to host all the events they can because they don't care about losing money - unlike the Western countries. It doesn't take much to have another 2008 economical collapse before people start bailing out over the lost money and view hosting process as expendable. The biggest economy in Europe hasn't hosted Olympic Games in 49 years & counting and they want nothing to do with it :lol:

  7. Please, the same happened in Beijing. I know fully well big TV sports in USA get the favorable time slot in US TV. Same happened with figure skating in Pyeongchang and will probably happen in Beijing in few months time. At the end of the day this is all about entertainment and hardly about sport anymore so talking about this bidding process is quite frankly a waste of time. Besides, with Brisbane IOC actually stopped even pretending a bidding process matters and awarded it right away. This is life. These bidding contests will soon be totally over. Obviously Gulf sheiks will still have money and will keep throwing that at whatever event they can host so maybe even IOC caves in when suddenly there will be no bidders outside of USA, China and Australia and there will actually be some uproar why the same three countries host the OG over and over again. I still remember when Sydney OG was held in September. Obviously Brisbane had to cave in to NBC demands too since that will be held in July/August. No chance NBC approves any Games being held in September with the NFL season starting there.

  8. It doesn't matter Super G is exciting. The schedule has favored the technical skiers for years. Super G is back to pariah status? They need to get rid of this to put more of these parallel city events IMO. I feel like I might not watch alpine skiing in 5-10 years time if the schedule will be 50% parallel slaloms and three downhills per season. Not to mention parallel events where one course is clearly better than the other and you can guess the winner before the start already.

  9. 5 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

    Doha, Qatar is not going to get an Olympic Games in that oven-like heat in July/August where it is often 40 degrees celcius at 2am.    The IOC and the International sporting federations will not allow it.

     

     NBC will also not allow an Olympic Games to be held outside the July/August timeslot.

     

     

     

     

    Well, if NBC is more important than IOC then all this discussion we have here is obviously pointless :lol: A Muslim country will never host SOG either IMO.

     

    Sorry, I forgot NBC is the one making the final choice when it comes to hosting the Olympics. I rest my case in this thread.

  10. 9 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

    Why do you think that Doha 2032 never progressed past the Dialogue stage? 
     

    It is a safety issue for the athletes.  It is a bloody oven in Doha,  and the IOC will not countenance athletes, officials and spectators dropping like flies with heat stress.

     

    You cannot hold the many outdoor Olympic events like the Marathon, Triathlon, Road Cycling, etc in a Doha in an air conditioned stadium.   

     

    The IOC won’t allow it even if the July/August rules were changed.

     

    The IOC’s New Norm reforms has generated a huge wave in interest for hosting in 2036 following Brisbane’s recent election.

     

    As a result, the IOC are now triumphant with these 118 New Norm reforms introduced in 2018.

     

    To be clear, the list below is of media reports of early interest in 2036 hosting.

     

    I’m not talking if there is, or not has been or not, any dialogue with the IOC, nor am I talking about the actual chances of each of getting the Games

     

    …..these are purely media reports of interest shown by these in possibly hosting in 2036.

    As we know, early interest is just that … and often nothing more.

     

    But it is a bloody long list.

     

    2036 Interested Parties
               Media Reports
    Ahmedabad

    14 Jul-21: Olympic Bid: Two agencies in fray to create roadmap for Ahmedabad – Times of India

    2036 Olympics in Ahmedabad - 24Aug21 - Times of India

     

    Berlin, Tel Aviv

    16 Apr-21: German officials expresses support for a Tel Aviv-Berlin Olympics in 2036

     

    Budapest

    3 Sep-21: “Budapest 2032 Committee" officially renamed as Hungarian capital continues pursuit to host Olympic Games

     

    Nanjing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Dalian, Xi'an, Chengdu, Jinan, Xiamen, Zhengzhou, Wuhan, Suzhou

    12 bidding cities for the 2036 Olympic Games - 2Oct21 - MINNEWS

     

    Odessa

    Odessa bid for 2036 Olympic Games possible, Ukrainian politician Kolesnikov moots - 30Sep21 - Inside The Games

     

    Florence, Bologna, Tuscany,
    Emilia Romagna

    21 Jul-21: Florence, Bologna, Tuscany and Emilia Romagna, Italy

    2036 Olympics, Giani and Nardella: “Bringing the Summer Games to Italy shouldn’t remain a dream” - 25Jul21 - ConradAtkinson

     

    Guadalajara

    Guadalajara, Mexico City, Tijuana, Monterrey, Mexico

    Tijuana-San Diego Olympic Project resurfaces by 2036 - 12Jul21 - Around The Rings

     

    Jakarta

    23 Jul-21: Indonesia to bid for 2036 Olympics after 2032 failure

    After Tokyo 2020, Jakarta aims to secure ASEAN’s first Olympics - 12 Aug21 - Asean Economist

     

    Rostov-On-Don, Vladivostok, Perm, Novosibirsk, Sochi, Ufa

    At least six regions in Russia are interested in hosting 2036 Olympic Games - 27Sep2021 - Gamesbids.com

     

    Istanbul

    14 Jul-21: Istanbul Mayor launches bid for 2036 Olympic Games

    We are Assertive in bringing 2036 Games to Istanbul - 30Aug21 - Railly News

     

    London, Birmingham,
    Liverpool, Manchester

    4 May-21: Khan targets 2036 or 2040 Olympic and Paralympic bid if re-elected London Mayor

    Olympic hosting ground looms after Tokyo - 24Sep2021 - Bolly Inside

     

    Madrid

    Madrid Mayor denies Spanish capital has joined 2036 Olympic bid race, but door is open - 23 Sep21 - Gamesbids.com

    Madrid Enters 2036 Race, or Not? - 24Sep21 - SwimSwam

     

    Montreal, Toronto

    3 Feb-21: Montreal and Toronto, Canada’s new Olympic bet

    Olympic hosting ground looms after Tokyo - 24Sep2021 - Bolly Inside

     

    Rhine Rhur

    12 Jul-21: German Olympic Bid Embraces Flexibility

     

    South Korea, North Korea

    4 Sep-21: Koreas Push 2032 Olympics for IOC Consideration

     

     

    Sorry, I got off topic.  Here is the discussion transfer link over to the 2036 thread.

     

     

     

     

    Nothing is set in stone let alone rules about not hosting the Games in November. Let's get real. Most of the wealthy Western Europe bids probably won't happen due to local population objections. Hosting SOG only loses money and most people prefer the money to be spend on them rather than a two week sporting event. Montreal paid off the 1976 debt for like 40 years? I don't see them hosting another Games anytime soon.

     

    The Winter Games became so exclusive they had to give it to China who isn't exactly well known as a winter nation. If IOC stays true to their diversification & inclusive nonsense they will have to pick an Asian vernue sooner or later. This probably means a return to China or Qatar as the obvious Middle East candidate.

     

    London will not get another SOG after only 24 years again, Budapest, Istanbul and Russia don't sit well with the liberal values of the Wester world, Germany already rejected the WOG bid for Munich/Ga-Pa due to local protests, I don't see them hosting SOG either. Indonesia is the biggest Muslim country in the world and a complete unknown when it comes to hosting global events of any kind (unlike Doha). They went ahead with the Games in Rio de Janeiro despite objections about humidity & corruption.

     

    When there is so much money involved things can change fast. And nothing devalues faster than a word "game-changer". These rules you cite could become irrelevant anytime between today and Brisbane OG.

  11. 2 hours ago, AustralianFan said:

    It’s the unsafe extremely hot weather conditions that will stop a July/Augustbid from Qatar dead in it’s tracks.

     

    July/August temperatures in Qatar are far too unsafe for all involved, athletes, officials, spectators particularly outdoor events, even at night.

     

    The 2022 World Cup is being held in Nov/Dec in air conditioned stadiums.

     

    The IOC’s new rules are simply not going to allow an Olympic Games  be held in November or December - period.

     

    Money always talks and Qatar doesn't have to host the SOG in November or December. Besides IOC rules can always change - and Qatar will keep bidding for those SOG. You can't host them in USA, Australia or Western Europe all the time to deny Qatar their wish. IOC has buckled down to Chinese money already, they will do so to Qatar as well. It's only a matter of time.

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