heywoodu 13,565 Posted July 30, 2019 #351 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The Semenya Show drags on, this time Swiss court has sided with IAAF and so she won't be going to the world championships. Gianlu33 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,490 Posted July 30, 2019 #352 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, heywoodu said: The Semenya Show drags on, this time Swiss court has sided with IAAF and so she won't be going to the world championships. Completely wrong ruling. In the US we’ve passed bills to allow to compete (especially in California). “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,565 Posted July 31, 2019 #353 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: Completely wrong ruling. In the US we’ve passed bills to allow to compete (especially in California). It's not 'completely wrong'. There is no 'completely right' or 'completely wrong' in this way too complicated case. And what kind of bill has been passed there specifically, (even though it's irrelevant in this case)? Letting female athletes with testosteron levels that are way, way above the 'normal situation' compete? Or something else? Edited July 31, 2019 by heywoodu mrv86 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,490 Posted July 31, 2019 #354 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, heywoodu said: It's not 'completely wrong'. There is no 'completely right' or 'completely wrong' in this way too complicated case. And what kind of bill has been passed there specifically, (even though it's irrelevant in this case)? Letting female athletes with testosteron levels that are way, way above the 'normal situation' compete? Or something else? Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,578 Posted July 31, 2019 #355 Share Posted July 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender. I don't agree with the Swiss court, but this isn't a gender discrimination. heywoodu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 713 Posted July 31, 2019 #356 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender. Semenya has an xy-chromosome. This alone already makes it debatable, if she is biologically a female. And in Sports, this does matter, because biologically male athletes have a major physical advantage compared to the females. If the female athletes have to compete against someone who has that much of a physical advantage, you simply can cancel women's sports for good. I feel sorry for Semenya, because nothing of this is her fault and yet the poor woman got almost notorious because of this. But I also feel sorry for the xx-women, who have to compete against her. Edited July 31, 2019 by EselTheDonkey mrv86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 712 Posted July 31, 2019 #357 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said: Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender. So, any man who declares himself to be a female can participate in 2028 Olympics in women categories? De_Gambassi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalamAkhi 278 Posted July 31, 2019 #358 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Il y a 2 heures, Olympian1010 a dit : Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender. Humongous mistake and woeful decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 31, 2019 #359 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender. Christ, this is so, so wrong. I fully support the trans community, but gender politics should stay out of sports. I guess it would make things clear for everyone if the IOC would rename the events and have them as "High testosterone" (formerly "Men's") and "Low testosterone" (formerly "Women's") events. That way people wouldn't be able to claim that IAAF is trying to force athletes into the wrong gender category. Edited July 31, 2019 by Vektor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerMne 627 Posted July 31, 2019 #360 Share Posted July 31, 2019 17 hours ago, heywoodu said: For years it was incredibly rare to see an athlete run under 47.50 seconds, now since last year we've got three guys who either broke or nearly broke 47 flat They combined for a total of 11 runs under 47.50 so far, seven of those coming from Abderrahman Samba of Qatar. I totally missed his result from Paris 2018. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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