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  1. saina moves into the semis at the indonesian masters ...thats great
  2. Well our home event ...... we have been doing well at juniors ....... so hoping for good results here ...... expecting medals from........... magnificent mary kom , sonia lather...... home advantage may work for us in the heavier non olympic categories ... so just may 3-4 medals
  3. Nice to see subhankar coming up well
  4. So womens squad 50 Kgs - Vinesh - definate medal hope 53 Kgs - Ritu or Babita phogat - definitely should qualify- both are high quality wrestlers 57 - Pooja Dhandha - should qualify she has improved a lot 63 - sakshi or ritu malik - sakshi showed a return to form and ritu placed 5th 68 - Divya Kakran - should also qualify ( navjot has also done well but has been there for ages without great success and divya is just 18 so should improve a lot ) 76 - is weak probably Kiran is the best bet still hopefully we can have 5 qualifiers Mens FS squad 57 kilograms/125.4 pounds - Sandeep tomar ( if amit kumar comes back from injury , I still feel he has a chance ) 65 kilograms/143 pounds; - Bajrang 74 kilograms/163 pounds; Sushil can still qualify if he comes to some form and there seems no one in that weight category 86 kilograms/183 pounds; deepak punia from the juniors ( silver at the junior worlds ) should be given a chance i feel 97 kilograms/213 pounds; satyawrat ????- he had class but again seems to have faded a bit ( but I think is much younger that khatri ) 125 kilograms/275 pounds. Sumit greco roman 60 - Vijay silver from the juniors I think is still the best bet 77 - junior wolrd silver medallist - Sajan 87- harpreet - needs to move up from 82 which is not that easy 97 - hardeep
  5. In fact very happy with the womens wrestling team ...... for the olympics we should be having a good squad 48 Kg - Vinesh 53 - Possibly Ritu Phogat if she can transition 58 - Pooja dhanda 63 - Sakshi who seems to be coming back or Ritu Malik who finished 5th here 69 - Divya Kakran so that seems a really good squad for 5 of the 6 events unfortunately our mens freestyle does not seem to have a good squad other than Punia ( and to some extant Sumit ) ...... I do not think sushil may be back , amit is injured for the last 3 years , pancham is banned ..........
  6. Curious why the lowest womens weight category in this event was 50 kg , while the lowest olympic category is 48 Kgs ?????
  7. pooja wins a bronze ....great news from wrestling ......2nd medal
  8. overall good week for badminton i felt .....saina seems back and this finals should push her ranking up ...also the hellas wins though only a international series is a good boost for some of the minor doubles pairing
  9. I think the coach came back at the end of the bout and continued his obnoxious behavior by giving him the flag even before the bout was announced
  10. abdurakhmanov was really running in circles really really fast made the turk dizzy ...... great strategy
  11. yes chamizo really is a star of the future ....jordan is multiple times world champion I think and he just had to use all his experience to hod off chamizo
  12. the russain coach i thought would start another wrestling bout himself
  13. love the freestyle bouts .....so exciting ........ will be bored when greco starts
  14. BAJRANG reaches final of world championships in the 65 Kgs ...... he becomes the first indian to win two medals in the world wrestling championship to join the 2013 bronze he won in the 60kgs
  15. great job by Bajrang defeating valdes in a narrow match to reach the finals of the 65Kg .....it will be against takuto so he has a reasonable chance for a gold ....... That would be third time in history we have an Indian in a world championship final ....... sushil won indias only gold in 2010 ........ also bajrang becomes the only Indian wrestler to win 2 wrestling medals at the world championship
  16. quick counter points Just did a quick check on US performance at the Junior level - They do really well at the junior level too .. In the junior swimming they were world number 1 and in junior atheletics no 3 ......not very different from how they are the senior level ...... Look juniors you need to look over 5-10 period .......you would have good performers over this period obviously the pool also expand , let us say you win 25 medals this year and then after 4-5 years another crop of juniors win another 25 medals , your pool of players becomes 50 ( because you have two groups of 25 different juniors ) then in ratio of 5:1 you would still get 10 seniors I think the juniors in shooting may not be ready for the seniors so quickly , it is diffciult to go to your first olympic and win a medal even abhinav had to go through 3 olympics i think before he won a gold...... so i think they may win quotas but medals I doubt ..................... when I said juniors in shooting were not conducted regularly ............................till recently they were conducted every 4 years actually.............................. and it is difficult to measure junior performance by that as if you have a 15 year old in one tournament by the next he may have already gone beyond the age limit and he does not get a chance to perform Of course I agree with one point that finally senior performance matters ,........ and each good junior needs to graduate successfully to the senior level ...........but there may some sudden upsurges at the senior level also ( especially with army shooters coming in not thru the juniors but through army selection . but I think we should be very happy with the recent uptick in junior performance because only then will you get good seniors ..........and that was my thought but these juniors will be ready in only 5-6 years and not 1-2 years barring possibly one or two shooters
  17. First I was referring to world championship medals and not youth olympic medals Second you cannot produce good senior results without good junior results , Please show me any country which dominates senior world championships/ olympics in a sport who does not do well at the junior level in that sport , so junior results are a precursor to senior results .....and hence to Olympic results. so it is critical to do well at junior level first ..... Third I do appreciate the point that the juniors are in 2-3 year time frame while the seniors have a 10 year time frame , so the indian team needs to do consistently well ( produce 24 medals consistently at least for 6-10 years to get that level of senior / olympic performance )...... also from the 4-5 junior players 1 or 2 senior players may come ..... so every junior player may not become a good senior player but almost every great senior player was a great junior player ........ check it out Sania - Junior World championship Gold Sindhu - Junior world championship silver Yogeshwar - cadet world champion in wrestling 1999 lodz Sushil - Cadet world champion in wrestling 1999 lodz shooting unfortunately the junior championships were not regularly conducted till recently so from the crop of great junior players over a 5-6 competitions you would get 1 great senior level player especially in sports like wrestling or boxing
  18. Well look at facts ......Currently and I counted just as of now we have world junior championship medals in the following sports ( in olympic categories removing non olympic ) Shooting - 9 - 2018 ( removing non olympic and team medals ) Wrestling - 5 ( I Have reduced our 7 medals to 5 proportionately ) - 2018 Boxing - 4 ( Again I have reduced proportionately 8 to 4 ) - 2018 Athletics - 1 ( Hima of course ) -2018 Badminton - 0 last year - will happen in November but I am putting 1 Archery - 2 -2017 weightlifting - 1 - world junior 2018 hockey 1 - junior world cup 2016 cycling -1 - junior world championships total Junior world championship medals for India at this point in time 24 I have been following olympic sports in India for the last 20 years ........ can you point out a single point in time where we have so many junior world championship medals we even have good tt , gymnastics and judo players ........barring tennis where there does not seem any real good young talent take 8 years back period of time 2012-2014 ...... check out the records of junior world championships ( !!!! ) you would find we were approx 1-2 shooting 2-3 Boxing 1-2 Wrestling 0 atheletics 1 badminton archery 1 weightlifting 0 hockey 0 total junior medals in the period 6-7 years ago - 6-7 and lo and behold we are likely 5-6 medals at the olympics There has been a huge improvement at the junior levels ( no political statements but raw facts ...you could correct the numbers if I am wrong ) I believe in statistics if we have 20-24 medals today 5-6 years from today we will have at least 12-15 medals at the senior olympics
  19. to be honest you have to look at current world championship medals we have won to determine the true likely hood of medals . there is thread in totally olympics http://results.totallympics.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=916 currently we just have 3 world championship medals ( 1 - shooting, 1- weightlifting , 1- badminton, ) add I think 1 medal in wrestling which we would get in november possibly , you could make it 4 ........ possibly I feel sourabh missed the senior WC medal because he was in the junior team so I would add one extra medal in shooting but that is it ......... we could be 5 medals .......anything extra would be lucky and completely dependent on form ....... But the current group of atheletes in the youth would be hitting the senior level ( possibly barring manu and sourabh ) only by 2024 ........ By 2024 we could be seeing 5-6 medals in shooting , possibly 3-4 medals in wrestling and 2-3 in womens boxing 1-2 in badminton based on the current juniors ....... jeremy may be a potent force in weightlifting and possibly 1-2 even in atheletics and 1-2 from other sports like tt, archery,tennis ................. so i think we would be seeing 12-18 medals then....... but you will have to be more patient
  20. great performance by India in Hockey 5s......reach the finals in both women and mens events ......... after so many disappointments by the senior team ( in the commonwealth games and the asian games ) , I had gotten to hate hockey in terms of performance , but these performance by the youngsters was fearless and bright ................... both women and men decimated the competition ....falling in love with hockey again
  21. good job by simran after mansis failure in wrestling ...she reaches the gold medal bout
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