Biathlon 2020 - 2021 Discussion Thread

[RobtheAggie 340]

The first Alpine Cup race was scheduled for tomorrow in Martell.  It is cancelled but the other events in the new year are still scheduled at this time.

 

Other dates:

FORNI AVOLTRI (ITA) 07.01.21 - 10.01.21 Individual | SPRINT 

ARBER (GER) 01/28/21 - 01/31/21 Individual | SUPER SPRINT 

POKLJUKA (SLO) 03/18/21 - 03/21/21 Individual | SUPER SINGLE

 

I think that we will see some interesting names in the smaller/regional races during the Christmas break.  Estonia will host the Baltic Cup for example.  WIth no IBU CUP until later, these races, if they happen, stand a very good chance to see in increase in competitors as well as quality.

[RobtheAggie 340]

Bulgarian coach Alexandr Kasperovič has been banned from events pending an appeal, until January.

[Olympian1010 7,479]

Is the IBU still using this season’s Nations Cup standings for Beijing 2022 qualification?

 

If so, can those rankings be viewed somewhere?

[hckošice 13,267]

22 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Is the IBU still using this season’s Nations Cup standings for Beijing 2022 qualification?

 

If so, can those rankings be viewed somewhere?

as far as i know, yes

 

 

I have one in Slovak

 

M after Hochfilzen

Spoiler

1.		NÓRSKO	2571
2.		ŠVÉDSKO	2320
3.		NEMECKO	2297
4.		FRANCÚZSKO	2164
5.		RUSKO	2050
6.		RAKÚSKO	1931
7.		ČESKO	1914
8.		BIELORUSKO	1716
9.		TALIANSKO	1669
10.		SLOVINSKO	1646

11.		FÍNSKO	1581
12.		ŠVAJČIARSKO	1577
13.		UKRAJINA	1509
14.		SPOJENÉ ŠTÁTY	1436
15.		KANADA	1375
16.		BELGICKO	1231
17.		LITVA	1219
18.		BULHARSKO	1113
19.		SLOVENSKO	1062
20.		LOTYŠSKO	985
21.		ESTÓNSKO	960
22.		POĽSKO	907
23.		JAPONSKO	881
24.		KAZACHSTAN	500
25.		SRBSKO	200
26.		MOLDAVSKO	162
27.		RUMUNSKO	138
28.		GRÉCKO	136

 

 

 

 

W After Hochfilzen

Spoiler

1.		ŠVÉDSKO	2459
2.		FRANCÚZSKO	2305
3.		NÓRSKO	2283
4.		NEMECKO	2214
5.		RUSKO	2003
6.		RAKÚSKO	1955
7.		UKRAJINA	1935
8.		TALIANSKO	1890
9.		BIELORUSKO	1884
10.		ŠVAJČIARSKO	1731

11.		ČESKO	1652
12.		SPOJENÉ ŠTÁTY	1573
13.		POĽSKO	1474
14.		KANADA	1370
15.		ESTÓNSKO	1357
16.		FÍNSKO	1282
17.		JAPONSKO	1132
18.		BULHARSKO	1011
19.		KÓREA	773
20.		SLOVENSKO	755
21.		KAZACHSTAN	744
22.		SLOVINSKO	732
23.		LITVA	480
24.		LOTYŠSKO	341
25.		BELGICKO	323
26.		VEĽKÁ BRITÁNIA	152
27.		RUMUNSKO	136
28.		AUSTRÁLIA	76
29.		MOLDAVSKO	42
30.		GRÓNSKO	29
31.		CHORVÁTSKO	19

 

[hckošice 13,267]

I fixed the flags, so you can know the countries now

[Wumo 2,796]

32 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Is the IBU still using this season’s Nations Cup standings for Beijing 2022 qualification?

 

If so, can those rankings be viewed somewhere?

I usually use this site for Nations Cup:

https://www.biathlon.com.ua/en/nationscup.php

[heywoodu 13,560]

8 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Is the IBU still using this season’s Nations Cup standings for Beijing 2022 qualification?

 

If so, can those rankings be viewed somewhere?

In terms of total quota per nation, I think so. There might also be individual spots again like last time, for a small number of athletes from nations outside of the top-X, which are handed out based on a ranking that's not publicly available (the IBU Qualifying Points List).

[Olympian1010 7,479]

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

In terms of total quota per nation, I think so. There might also be individual spots again like last time, for a small number of athletes from nations outside of the top-X, which are handed out based on a ranking that's not publicly available (the IBU Qualifying Points List).

Okay, so then the document I have might still be accurate. If it is, allocation works as follows: 

 

1-3 2020/2021 Nations Cup: 6 quotas

4-10 2020/2021 Nations Cup: 5 quotas

11-20 2020/2021 Nations Cup: 4 quotas

 

IBU Individual Qualifying Points List after the 5th World Cup in 2021/2022: 12 quotas (max of 2 per country to unqualified NOCs)

 

Reallocation: Next best athlete on the IBU QPL 2021/2022

[heywoodu 13,560]

5 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

IBU Individual Qualifying Points List after the 5th World Cup in 2021/2022: 12 quotas (max of 2 per country to unqualified NOCs)

 

Reallocation: Next best athlete on the IBU QPL 2021/2022

These were the problems last time. I spent God knows how many hours trying to find this list and even trying to keep it updated myself (because the points per race are always posted after every race, but the total list is a non-published secret even though it's incredibly important once you look outside of the top nations), but all I kept finding was one list from one trimester which happened to be somewhere on Biathlon Canada's website.

 

One would think an important list, on which - among others - Olympic qualifying depends for a number of athletes, would not be impossible to find. Especially from a federation which generally has a very good results and PDF's system.

[RobtheAggie 340]

So where does this leave biathlon?  The result from today's CAS appeal reduced Russia's ban from 4 to 2 years.  But can they compete in the World Championships?  Can they have a biathlon team in the Olympics?  Quota's are done by nation, and if Russia is not allowed, how do the people qualify?  What about the relay?