phelps 7,024 Posted August 31, 2023 #41 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, phelps said: ITALY Women Single Sculls: Clara Guerra Pairs: Alice Codato / Aisha Rocek* Double Sculls: Stefania Buttignon / Silvia Crosio (they're both LW ) Fours: - (NOT participating) Quadruple Sculls: Valentina Iseppi / Alessandra Montesano / Laura Meriano / Stefania Gobbi Eights: Giorgia Pelacchi / Linda De Filippis / Alice Gnatta / Aisha Rocek / Alice Codato / Silvia Terrazzi / Elisa Mondelli / Veronica Bumbaca LW Double Sculls: Valentina Rodini / Federica Cesarini * Doublin'up in Pairs and Eights Men Single Sculls: Davide Mumolo Pairs: Davide Comini / Giovanni Codato Double Sculls: Luca Rambaldi / Matteo Sartori Fours: Paolo Covini / Alessandro Bonamoneta / Davide Verità / Alfonso Scalzone Quadruple Sculls: Nicolò Carucci / Andrea Panizza / Luca Chiumento / Giacomo Gentili Eights: Matteo Dalla Valle / Emanuele Gaetani Liseo / Salvatore Monfrecola / Giovanni Abagnale / Gennaro Di Mauro / Simone Venier / Vincenzo Abbagnale / Leonardo Pietra Caprina LW Double Sculls: Stefano Oppo / Gabriel Soares I think we're approaching the lowest point ever by our glorious sport of Rowing between injuries, retirements, unsuccessful transitions to the senior level (when not just lack of talent), people giving priority to their studies in the US colleges and questionable decisions by our coaches, we will be lucky if we can qualify to the Olympics 3 men's boats (2X, 4X, LW2X) and 1 women's boat (the Tokyo Gold Medallists Rodini & Cesarini in the LW2X) the W 4X might also have a slim chance, but they would need to pull out a miracle meanwhile I don't see how any other remaining boats can even get close to a qualifying result dreaming of medals, 3 - no gold (M 2X, M 4X, M LW2X) would be a huge success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,551 Posted August 31, 2023 #42 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, zob79 said: 'Cause it's difficult to find 8 high-value athletes to put in (just) one boat; this is a good indicator of a country's depth in rowing. Not to mention, you then need to find another six to compete in the other boats, and that’s not even considering athletes in the sculls. zob79 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,272 Posted August 31, 2023 #43 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Oldira said: And the Eights come from mainly English Speaking countries..Canada,US,GB,NZ and Aus. Add Germany, Romania and Netherlands and thats pretty much it. If they are the Blue Riband of rowing then why are so few countries competing? So few countries compete because everyone other than the biggest countries will naturaly focus on the pair and the four. Given the resources required the eight is very much an all or nothing proposition because it takes away athletes from two different Olympic events. Makedonas, maestro and Oldira 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,272 Posted August 31, 2023 #44 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Also, I think if we were to cut rowing events the "middle" events (the fours and the double scull) make the most sense to eliminate. It still leaves the smaller boats, where more nations are competitive, while also leaving the heavier, more spectacular and more prestigious classes. Eliminating the fours would also lead to more countries building eights. Edited August 31, 2023 by NearPup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,551 Posted August 31, 2023 #45 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NearPup said: Also, I think if we were to cut rowing events the "middle" events (the fours and the double scull) make the most sense to eliminate. I’ve been thinking about a similar idea for a while too. My proposed program would be: Single Scull, LW Double Scull, Quad Scull, Pair, Eights World Rowing could then re-route the newly freed quotas to increase field sizes in those events. Edited August 31, 2023 by Olympian1010 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 975 Posted September 1, 2023 #46 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 9:49 PM, dodge said: Some stats on quotas based on the entries on worldrowing Quota Entries % chance Men Single Sculls m1x 9 48 18.75% Men Double Sculls m2x 11 30 36.67% Men Lightweight Double Sculls LM2x 7 27 25.93% Men Quad Sculls M4x 7 17 41.18% Men Coxless Pair M2- 11 28 39.29% Men Coxless Four M4- 7 17 41.18% Men Eight M8+ 5 10 50.00% Women Single Sculls w1x 9 32 28.13% Women Double Sculls W2X 11 20 55.00% Women Lightweight Double Sculls LW2X 7 21 33.33% Women Quad Sculls W4X 7 13 53.85% Women Coxless Pair W2- 11 22 50.00% Women Coxless Four W4- 7 16 43.75% Wowen Eight W8+ 5 8 62.50% Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender. Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,551 Posted September 1, 2023 #47 Share Posted September 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said: Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. A little bit of hyperbole there, hopefully. While rowing is a bit cumbersome on athlete quotas, there has been a good diversity in competing nations and medalists at the Olympic Games. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 899 Posted September 1, 2023 #48 Share Posted September 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said: Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender. Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. Please do list them. Makedonas, intoronto, Josh and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dodge 753 Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post #49 Share Posted September 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said: Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender. Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. 17 different countries won medals in Tokyo. 11 different countries won gold. Of the 14 golds won, 8 of them won by non-European nations Only gold won by Romania in Tokyo. 1 of 2 won by Ireland, Greece. 1 of 3 by Croatia One of the only sports where the USA didn’t win a medal Overall I think that’s a decent record. maestro, Roamingrover86, Oldira and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,272 Posted September 1, 2023 #50 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dodge said: 17 different countries won medals in Tokyo. 11 different countries won gold. Of the 14 golds won, 8 of them won by non-European nations Only gold won by Romania in Tokyo. 1 of 2 won by Ireland, Greece. 1 of 3 by Croatia One of the only sports where the USA didn’t win a medal Overall I think that’s a decent record. Obviously are all European nations. Rowing is actually one of the few sport where every continent (counting North and South America as separate continents) has won an Olympic gold. Edited September 1, 2023 by NearPup maestro, Styrka, Makedonas and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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