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On 7/29/2022 at 3:43 PM, Olympian1010 said:

I can see people finding swimming a bit repetitive, but I don’t know what races you’ve been watching if you think there’s no action.

 

There are a few events where one person dominates, but it’s not like that’s a phenomenon limited to swimming.

 

I do agree that programs could be reworked to create more difference between events. 

Swimming is my favourite sport to watch along with Ice hockey Diving and Athletics.  I would watch it everyday lol 

Stupid livestream having problems again.

1 minute ago, intoronto said:

Summer Mcintosh 

9 hours ago, Werloc said:

You can think whatever you want, this is one of those rare cases where it is quite evident, if you know some very undelightful details, that she used this ban as a form of escape. You have absolutely no idea what she lived through, the fact that she came back like this is astonishing. 

 

She was one of the most tested Lithuanian athletes from 2012 to 2018, instigating that she used doping when her results got bad and after she already won it all is pretty stupid.

 

Is it good that she purposefully missed her doping tests? No. But she was done, she thought she would never swim competitively again and she used the safety net of the ban so that she wouldn't have to make that choice herself and that the federation & media would stop pestering her about the upcoming 2020 Olympics.

 

You don't know what it was like for Meilutytė when she stopped winning gold and immediately the journalists and many many sports fans turned on her, made fun of her body, harrassed her and all that.

People are so mean.  This is so disgisting hearing about this.  And then some people wonder how come a person is going through depression.  

23 hours ago, Dunadan said:

Meanwhile a long and detailed article by Russian state media explaining what they mean with denazification of Ukraine - and it is as bad as you can guess:

https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html

 

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Denazification is necessary when a significant part of the people - most likely the majority - has been mastered and drawn into the Nazi regime in its politics. That is, when the hypothesis "the people are good - the government is bad" does not work. Recognition of this fact is the basis of the policy of denazification, of all its measures, and the fact itself is its subject matter.

 

 

Ukraine is in just such a situation. The fact that the Ukrainian voter voted for the "peace of Poroshenko" and "peace of Zelensky" should not be misleading - the Ukrainians were quite satisfied with the shortest path to peace through the blitzkrieg, which the last two Ukrainian presidents transparently hinted at when they were elected. It was this method of "appeasement" of internal anti-fascists - through total terror - that was used in Odessa , Kharkov , Dnepropetrovsk , Mariupol , and other Russian cities. And this quite suited the Ukrainian man in the street. Denazification is a set of measures in relation to the nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be subjected to direct punishment as war criminals.

The Nazis who took up arms should be destroyed to the maximum on the battlefield. No significant distinction should be made between the APUand the so-called national battalions, as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations. All of them are equally involved in extreme cruelty against the civilian population, equally guilty of the genocide of the Russian people, do not comply with the laws and customs of war. War criminals and active Nazis should be exemplarily and exponentially punished. There must be a total lustration. Any organizations that have associated themselves with the practice of Nazism have been liquidated and banned. However, in addition to the top, a significant part of the masses, which are passive Nazis, accomplices of Nazism, are also guilty. They supported and indulged Nazi power. The just punishment of this part of the population is possible only as bearing the inevitable hardships of a just war against the Nazi system, carried out with the utmost care and discretion in relation to civilians. Further denazification of this mass of the population consists in re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and strict censorship: not only in the political sphere, but also necessarily in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that a deep mass nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, secured by the promise of dividends from the victory of the Nazi regime overRussia , Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, as well as an eight-year war with the people of Donbass who rebelled against Ukrainian Nazism .

 

Denazification can only be carried out by the winner, which implies (1) his absolute control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, a denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach regarding denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be disputed by the guilty party subjected to denazification. Russia's recognition of the need to denazify Ukraine means the recognition of the impossibility of the Crimean scenario for Ukraine as a whole. However, this scenario was impossible in 2014 and in the rebellious Donbass. Only eight years of resistance to Nazi violence and terror led to internal cohesion and a conscious unambiguous mass refusal to maintain any unity and connection with Ukraine,

The terms of denazification can in no way be less than one generation, which must be born, grow up and reach maturity under the conditions of denazification. The nazification of Ukraine continued for more than 30 years, beginning at least in 1989, when Ukrainian nationalism received legal and legitimate forms of political expression and led the movement for "independence" towards Nazism.

 

The peculiarity of modern nazified Ukraine is in amorphousness and ambivalence, which allow Nazism to be disguised as a desire for "independence" and a "European" (Western, pro-American) path of "development" (in reality - to degradation), to assert that in Ukraine "there is no Nazism , only private individual excesses". After all, there is no main Nazi party, no Fuhrer, no full-fledged racial laws (only their truncated version in the form of repressions against the Russian language). As a result, there is no opposition and resistance to the regime.

However, all of the above does not make Ukrainian Nazism a "light version" of German Nazism during the first half of the 20th century. On the contrary, since Ukrainian Nazism is free from such "genre" (essentially political technology) frameworks and restrictions, it freely unfolds as the fundamental basis of any Nazism - as European and, in its most developed form, American racism. Therefore, denazification cannot be carried out in a compromise, on the basis of a formula like " NATO - no, EU - yes." The collective West itself is the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism, while the Western Bandera cadres and their "historical memory" are only one of the tools for the Naziification of Ukraine. Ukronazism carries not less, but a greater threat to the world and Russia,

 

The name "Ukraine" apparently cannot be retained as the title of any fully denazified state entity in a territory liberated from the Nazi regime. The people's republics newly created in the space free from Nazism should and will grow from the practice of economic self-government and social security, restoration and modernization of the life support systems of the population.

In fact, their political aspirations cannot be neutral - expiation of guilt before Russia for treating it as an enemy can be realized only by relying on Russia in the processes of restoration, revival and development. No "Marshall Plans" should be allowed for these territories. There can be no "neutrality" in the ideological and practical sense, compatible with denazification. The cadres and organizations that are the instrument of denazification in the newly denazified republics cannot but rely on Russia's direct military and organizational support.

Denazification will inevitably also be a de-Ukrainization - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Little Russia and New Russia, begun by the Soviet authorities. Being an instrument of the communist superpower, after its fall, artificial ethnocentrism did not remain ownerless. In this official capacity, he passed under the authority of another superpower (the power standing over the states) — the superpower of the West. It must be returned to its natural boundaries and deprived of political functionality.

 

Unlike, say, Georgia and the Baltic countries , Ukraine, as history has shown, is impossible as a nation state, and attempts to "build" one naturally lead to Nazism. Ukrainism is an artificial anti-Russian construction that does not have its own civilizational content, a subordinate element of an alien and alien civilization. Debanderization by itself will not be enough for denazification - the Bandera element is only a performer and a screen, a disguise for the European project of Nazi Ukraine, therefore the denazification of Ukraine is also its inevitable de-Europeanization.

The Bandera elite must be eliminated, its re-education is impossible. The social "bog", which actively and passively supported it by action and inaction, must survive the hardships of the war and assimilate the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for its guilt. Those who did not support the Nazi regime, suffered from it and the war unleashed by him in the Donbass, must be consolidated and organized, must become the pillar of the new government, its vertical and horizontal. Historical experience shows that the tragedies and dramas of wartime benefit peoples who have been tempted and carried away by the role of an enemy of Russia.

Denazification as the goal of a special military operation within the framework of this operation itself is understood as a military victory over the Kiev regime, the liberation of territories from armed supporters of the Nazis, the elimination of implacable Nazis, the capture of war criminals, and the creation of systemic conditions for the subsequent denazification in peacetime.

 

The latter, in turn, should begin with the organization of local self-government, police and defense bodies, cleansed of Nazi elements, launching on their basis the founding processes of founding a new republican statehood, integrating this statehood into close cooperation with the Russian department for the denazification of Ukraine (newly created or converted, say, from Rossotrudnichestvo), with the adoption under Russian control of the republican regulatory framework (legislation) on denazification, the definition of the boundaries and framework for the direct application of Russian law and Russian jurisdiction in the liberated territory in the field of denazification, the creation of a tribunal for crimes against humanity in the former Ukraine. In this regard, Russia should act as the guardian of the Nuremberg Trials.

All of the above means that in order to achieve the goals of denazification, the support of the population is necessary, its transition to the side of Russia after liberation from terror, violence and ideological pressure of the Kiev regime, after the withdrawal from informational isolation. Of course, it will take some time for people to recover from the shock of hostilities, to be convinced of Russia's long-term intentions - that "they will not be abandoned." It is impossible to foresee in advance exactly in which territories such a mass of the population will constitute a critically needed majority. The "Catholic province" (Western Ukraine as part of five regions) is unlikely to become part of the pro-Russian territories. The line of alienation, however, will be found empirically. Behind it will remain hostile to Russia, but forcibly neutral and demilitarized Ukraine with formally banned Nazism. The haters of Russia will go there. The guarantee of the preservation of this residual Ukraine in a neutral state should be the threat of an immediate continuation of the military operation in case of non-compliance with the listed requirements. Perhaps this will require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the exclusion line to the Russian border there will be a territory of potential integration into Russian civilization, which is anti-fascist in its internal nature. this would require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the exclusion line to the Russian border there will be a territory of potential integration into Russian civilization, which is anti-fascist in its internal nature. this would require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the exclusion line to the Russian border there will be a territory of potential integration into Russian civilization, which is anti-fascist in its internal nature.

 

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  liquidation of armed Nazi formations (which means any armed formations of Ukraine, including the Armed Forces of Ukraine), as well as the military, informational, educational infrastructure that ensures their activity;
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  formation of bodies of people's self-government and militia (defense and law enforcement) of the liberated territories, protecting the population from the terror of underground Nazi groups;
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  installation of the Russian information space;
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  the withdrawal of educational materials and the prohibition of educational programs at all levels containing Nazi ideological guidelines;
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  mass investigative actions to establish personal responsibility for war crimes, crimes against humanity, the spread of Nazi ideology and support for the Nazi regime;
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  lustration, publication of the names of accomplices of the Nazi regime, involving them in forced labor to restore the destroyed infrastructure as punishment for Nazi activities (from among those who will not be subject to the death penalty or imprisonment);
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  the adoption at the local level, under the supervision of Russia, of primary normative acts of denazification "from below", a ban on all types and forms of the revival of Nazi ideology;
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  the establishment of memorials, commemorative signs, monuments to the victims of Ukrainian Nazism, perpetuating the memory of the heroes of the struggle against it;
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  the inclusion of a complex of anti-fascist and denazification norms in the constitutions of the new people's republics;
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  creation of permanent denazification bodies for a period of 25 years.
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Russia will have no allies in the denazification of Ukraine. Since this is a purely Russian business. And also because not just the Bandera version of Nazi Ukraine will be eradicated, but also, and above all, Western totalitarianism, the imposed programs of civilizational degradation and disintegration, the mechanisms of subjugation to the superpower of the West and the United States .

 

In order to put the plan of denazification of Ukraine into practice, Russia itself will have to finally part with pro-European and pro-Western illusions, realize itself as the last instance of protecting and preserving those values of historical Europe (the Old World) that deserve it and which the West ultimately abandoned, losing the fight for himself. This struggle continued throughout the 20th century and was expressed in the world war and the Russian revolution, inextricably linked with each other.

Russia did everything possible to save the West in the 20th century. She implemented the main Western project, an alternative to capitalism, which won the nation-states - a socialist, red project. It crushed German Nazism, the monstrous offspring of the crisis of Western civilization. The last act of Russian altruism was the outstretched hand of friendship from Russia, for which Russia received a monstrous blow in the 1990s.

 

Everything that Russia has done for the West, it has done at its own expense, by making the greatest sacrifices. The West ultimately rejected all these sacrifices, devalued Russia's contribution to resolving the Western crisis, and decided to take revenge on Russia for the help that it selflessly provided. Further, Russia will go its own way, not worrying about the fate of the West, relying on another part of its heritage - leadership in the global process of decolonization.

As part of this process, Russia has a high potential for partnerships and allies with countries that the West has oppressed for centuries and which are not going to put on its yoke again. Without Russian sacrifice and struggle, these countries would not have been liberated. The denazification of Ukraine is at the same time its decolonization, which the population of Ukraine will have to understand as it begins to free itself from the intoxication, temptation and dependence of the so-called European choice.

 

I have no words except that it's awful  and totally delusionnal of them.  I am disgusted.

21 hours ago, OlympicIRL said:

It still works. You need to click the “Source” button at the top left of your message and copy the embed link there.

 

 

Wow what a statement.  

9 hours ago, NearPup said:

is my backup team so I would find this draw problematic :P

 

I'm just excited that Canada will even be in the draw tbh, part of me would be really excited if Canada's group ended up being described as the "group of death". Unlikely, but it would be fun. Actually any group will be fun. It's the fucking world cup!

Totally agree.  The fact that we are there is amazing itself.  I will just enjoy watching them pla, and I will be happy.

Just being there is a huge accomplishment.  Very happy 

3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

RIP other countries, judging by Lavrov's words.

 

 

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Are they joking ????  He really said that ????

3 hours ago, hckošice said:

Apart biathlon, football also hit its first losses. On Monday, the Russian army killed Vitaly Sapyl, who was on his way to becoming a professional footballer. At the age of only 21, he  died in a tank defending Kiev.

 

The news of the death of another footballer, Dima Martynenko, who was 25 years old and played in the position of midfielder for the FC Hostomel team, is also spreading through Ukraine. Unlike Yevhen Malyshev and Vitaly Sapyl, he did not die as a soldier, but as a civilian, trying to hide with his mother from the bombing.

 

when will this finally stop ?

This is so horrific that I am speechless.  

On 2/27/2022 at 2:48 AM, hckošice said:

Another Thousands of Ukrainian refugees crossed the SVK-UKR borders last night and the queue is still enormous, waiting times are around 8-10 hours

 

Slovakia however is letting all Ukrainian refugees entering the country as quickly as possible after brief passport/ID card controls

 

 

 

 

All these poor innocent people paying the price for this mad psychopath is totally breaking my heart in 1000 pieces. 

9 minutes ago, orangeman said:

Shootout here we come!

Ugh this is an awful way to win a game. 

Just now, NearPup said:

Given how dominant Gu is I guess going 2-3 is about as good as can be expected.

Very good result 

1 minute ago, thepharoah said:

+ yuna Kim  honestly Russians are the 1st one to blame here IMO , Valieeva was only a victim or Russian_IOC conflict 

Exactly my thoughts.

I can't help but feel sorry for Valieva.  She is the victim in this.  I totally blame her coaches.  What a mess.

1 minute ago, orangeman said:

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!

20 minutes ago, dcro said:

You might have to open the link. The list is long (and nothing new).

 

 

 

Wow this is scary.  How come she is still a coach is beyond me.  This woman is totally crazy. 

So the other teams won't get their medal ?  Wow, this is totally awful.

1 hour ago, NearPup said:

already out of medal contention in two-man.

*sigh*

12 minutes ago, Orangehair43 said:

I wonder if others will withdraw tommrow in protest. 

I really doubt it. 

3 hours ago, orangeman said:

It's ridiculous.  They say it's provisional until further investigation, but we all know they're just trying to wait until the heat is off.  Their other excuse is that she's a minor.  Yeah, so I guess Russia should just concentrate on doping their children now.  But what difference does it make, they get away with everything.  

Yep at this rate they should get them the right to compete under the Russian flag again.  It doesn’t make any difference.  There always will be a double standard if it was a Canadian who had been caught they would have been out without any thoughts. 

3 hours ago, Orangehair43 said:

Why. Their mass Doping and won’t efer stoped until expelled.

When are they going to give a decision? It seems to take forever.

3 minutes ago, orangeman said:

Canada short track men's relay is in China's semi, but it should be a relatively easy semi since Italy and Japan aren't too much of a threat.  Just stay on your feet and don't give the judges a reason for a "creative" decision! 

lol I love the word you used.

6 minutes ago, orangeman said:

Grant, Street, Winnik all for Canada.  About halfway through the 1st.  Canada about to go on PP.  

Thank you

Just now, orangeman said:

Things I read said if she has a heart condition that would require that medication, especially at that age, she would never be able to do sports, let along high level sports.  

 

It's the same substance Su was banned for in swimming.  

It's exactly what I thought.  It doesn't make any sense.

This is pretty awful.  I just can't believe that Russia is doing all these cheating again.  They don't seem to learn from their mistakes at all.