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2 hours ago, Sanjib said:

Aishwarya & Tejaswini have got quota no exchange required, if Vijayveer really does well and I understand Anish might get the quota, depending on form Anish/Vijayveer can go. 

If Anish gets quota by ranking Vijayveer cannot go. 

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8 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

If Anish gets quota by ranking Vijayveer cannot go. 

Ok, which means Anish needs to do well his recent form has been really bad, hopefully he improves.

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Just now, Sanjib said:

Ok, which means Anish needs to do well his recent form has been really bad, hopefully he improves.

Yeah but if Anish gets the reallocated quota from Egypt, Vijayveer can go

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17 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

Yeah but if Anish gets the reallocated quota from Egypt, Vijayveer can go

 

We cannot get reallocation quotas. From the qualification document:

 

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If an allocated quota place is returned or is not accepted or confirmed by the NOC or if there is an unused World Ranking Quota Places (because there is no eligible athlete), that quota place will be reallocated to an NOC that does not have any quota place or Tripartite Invitation Place for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020.

 

Anish can win the World Ranking quota. That quota is not allocated to NRAI but to Anish. So, no swap or changing the athlete. 

Apart from Anish, as I have said multiple times, there is a very very small chance for Kynan to get a WR quota. No one else has any chance to win any more quotas. 

 

Regarding swaps, we can swap maximum 1 quota and that swap has to be in the same gender. Practically speaking, we have extra quota in Pistol women with Manu starting in both events. So, it is logical to swap Chinki's quota. Now that swap could either be for 50x3 or Shotgun. (We have full quotas in the rest). Decision regarding swap depends on selection of 10m Air Rifle. If Anjum qualifies ahead in 10m, then she will easily start in 50x3 as well, so only logical swap is in Shotgun. But if Elavenil pips Anjum, we can swap Chinki's quota for Anjum in 50x3.

 

Regarding team selection: 

 

Anyone interested can read the selection policy of NRAI here. Basically, instead of having one single selection trial, selection would be based on the average of the scores across various competitions and selection trials, with bonus points for Medals/Finals, World Records and Higher Rankings. Quota winners also get bonus points. 

 

At present it is very close between Anjum, Apurvi and Elavenil. Mehuli is losing out because she can't get any bonus points as she has been shooting in MQS category. 

 

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2 hours ago, Dolby said:

 

We cannot get reallocation quotas. From the qualification document:

 

 

Anish can win the World Ranking quota. That quota is not allocated to NRAI but to Anish. So, no swap or changing the athlete. 

Apart from Anish, as I have said multiple times, there is a very very small chance for Kynan to get a WR quota. No one else has any chance to win any more quotas. 

 

Regarding swaps, we can swap maximum 1 quota and that swap has to be in the same gender. Practically speaking, we have extra quota in Pistol women with Manu starting in both events. So, it is logical to swap Chinki's quota. Now that swap could either be for 50x3 or Shotgun. (We have full quotas in the rest). Decision regarding swap depends on selection of 10m Air Rifle. If Anjum qualifies ahead in 10m, then she will easily start in 50x3 as well, so only logical swap is in Shotgun. But if Elavenil pips Anjum, we can swap Chinki's quota for Anjum in 50x3.

 

Regarding team selection: 

 

Anyone interested can read the selection policy of NRAI here. Basically, instead of having one single selection trial, selection would be based on the average of the scores across various competitions and selection trials, with bonus points for Medals/Finals, World Records and Higher Rankings. Quota winners also get bonus points. 

 

At present it is very close between Anjum, Apurvi and Elavenil. Mehuli is losing out because she can't get any bonus points as she has been shooting in MQS category. 

 

Good analysis...... Also the highest ranked players in order will be in mixed pairs..... So no leeway...... Likely pairing divyansh-apurvi,  x- deepak.......  And saurabh-manu and yeshashwini-abhishekh....... The x would be either anjum Or velarivan..... That may go down to the last world Cup...... 

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Kynan does not go as the Italian is number 1 and there are three Italians in the top 25. Italy does not have any quota in Trap.

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Actually, we do not have any hope in shotgun; so they better do not go.

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9 minutes ago, sanjaydas said:

Kynan does not go as the Italian is number 1 and there are three Italians in the top 25. Italy does not have any quota in Trap.

Well if the Italian wins the quota in the European shotgun championships...... They will be out but almost surely then it would go to turkey....... So kynan will miss out either way...... So only Anish can get a quota..... He is 11th currently has to shoot better than ukr and should be safe 


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2 hours ago, Dolby said:

 

We cannot get reallocation quotas. From the qualification document:

 

 

Anish can win the World Ranking quota. That quota is not allocated to NRAI but to Anish. So, no swap or changing the athlete. 

Apart from Anish, as I have said multiple times, there is a very very small chance for Kynan to get a WR quota. No one else has any chance to win any more quotas. 

 

Regarding swaps, we can swap maximum 1 quota and that swap has to be in the same gender. Practically speaking, we have extra quota in Pistol women with Manu starting in both events. So, it is logical to swap Chinki's quota. Now that swap could either be for 50x3 or Shotgun. (We have full quotas in the rest). Decision regarding swap depends on selection of 10m Air Rifle. If Anjum qualifies ahead in 10m, then she will easily start in 50x3 as well, so only logical swap is in Shotgun. But if Elavenil pips Anjum, we can swap Chinki's quota for Anjum in 50x3.

 

Regarding team selection: 

 

Anyone interested can read the selection policy of NRAI here. Basically, instead of having one single selection trial, selection would be based on the average of the scores across various competitions and selection trials, with bonus points for Medals/Finals, World Records and Higher Rankings. Quota winners also get bonus points. 

 

At present it is very close between Anjum, Apurvi and Elavenil. Mehuli is losing out because she can't get any bonus points as she has been shooting in MQS category. 

 

 

Actually 2 extra points that one gets after taking the average of 5 best of last 6 international events has put Anjum close to a point ahead of Ela as of now. That looks a bit flawed clause in the policy. Also they did not count for world cup finals where Ela did so well.

 

As a result, as of now Ela is much behind Anjum and will need to shot 4 or 5 points better than Anjum in Delhi world cup to overcome that close to 1 point deficit. 

 

That looks really difficult. So, if NRAI strictly adheres to the policy, Apurvi and Anjum are most likely to go. But, there is a clause that NRAI can make the changes in national interest. So, if NRAI considered current form as the criteria for that change, then there is a chance for Ela but NRAI has not done that in the past.

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3 hours ago, sameerph said:

 

Actually 2 extra points that one gets after taking the average of 5 best of last 6 international events has put Anjum close to a point ahead of Ela as of now. That looks a bit flawed clause in the policy. Also they did not count for world cup finals where Ela did so well.

 

As a result, as of now Ela is much behind Anjum and will need to shot 4 or 5 points better than Anjum in Delhi world cup to overcome that close to 1 point deficit. 

 

That looks really difficult. So, if NRAI strictly adheres to the policy, Apurvi and Anjum are most likely to go. But, there is a clause that NRAI can make the changes in national interest. So, if NRAI considered current form as the criteria for that change, then there is a chance for Ela but NRAI has not done that in the past.

I hope common sense prevails here and they look at things objectively, can't believe Valarivan can miss out, she is also such a wonderful finals shooter.

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