Makedonas 2,155 Posted November 23, 2021 #1331 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Werloc said: Funnily enough, I knew the Canadian song from a Canadian reality tv show parody cartoon I have a special place in my heart for this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezbee2008 819 Posted November 23, 2021 #1332 Share Posted November 23, 2021 It's been a few days, but I'll make it short and sweet. Thank you, @Dnl for hosting the show with everything thrown at you, and congratulations to @Hipooo on your first win. Also my congrats to @Wanderer and @Belle on your podium finishes It's nice to be among the handful of countries with a perfect attendance rate, and we're definitely keeping it going. Also, my thanks to those who voted for the United States: . I'd say a 12th place finish isn't bad, I was hoping for a top 5 finish, but this is nice. I will admit this edition isn't the greatest in terms of quality, tho. I really struggled to pick 12 songs to give points to. Finally, here are my personal votes 12 -- 11 -- 10 -- 9 -- 8 -- 7 -- 6 -- 5 -- 4 -- 3 -- 2 -- 1 -- R1 -- R2 -- R3 -- mrv86, Cobi, Hipooo and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted November 24, 2021 #1333 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Now here is something I wanted to do for a long while, but never got around to doing it... Until this week. And it was done much sooner than expected. I wanted to apply this interesting Eurovision Song Contest analysis on TISC. It's about detecting the strongest two-sided ('collusion') and one-sided voting patterns in TISC history. And oh boy, the results are interesting. First up are the two-sided ('collusion') voting patterns. These pairs of nations have exchanged many more points than it is statistically probable assuming the random distribution. Of course, users don't vote randomly, the random simulations were just used to find the strongest connections. And down below are the results. The program ran 10,000 random simulations of TISC, and to appear on this map, the nations must have exchanged more points in reality than they did in 9500 or more (95%+) of these 10k random simulations. There are some definite cultural relationships here (MDA-ROU, AZE-TUR, CZE-SVK). Some relationships are extremely strong though. DEN-NZL, for instance, have exchanged more points in reality than they did in quite literally any of the 10k random simulations. I mean, we already knew this, but #RelationshipGoals am I right? Two-sided voting patterns - click to enlarge And here are the most one-sided relationships of TISC... Maybe I should have used a stricter criteria, or maybe TISC is just full of doomed relationships? Either way, I hope the map below is readable enough. Probably the most one-sided TISC relationship has been MDA-SRB. Moldova has awarded 110 points to Serbia (11.0 per edition, including their last 7 gold medals), while Serbia has only 'returned' 26 points. Other most one-sided affairs are CRO-AUS, EGY-GER, EGY-IRL, GUY-TUN, KAZ-AUS, KAZ-CHN, NOR-NED, SUI-IRL. One-sided voting patterns - click to enlarge And finally, this analysis was possible only because, at long last, the complete voting history is finally in one place. If you would like to see your nation's complete voting history, do not hesitate to ask. Only the combined votes are available for multi-juries right now, though. Makedonas, mrv86, Wanderer and 5 others 4 2 2 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 3,138 Posted November 24, 2021 #1334 Share Posted November 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, dcro said: Probably the most one-sided TISC relationship has been MDA-SRB. Moldova has awarded 110 points to Serbia (11.0 per edition, including their last 7 gold medals), while Serbia has only 'returned' 26 points. Other most one-sided affairs are CRO-AUS, EGY-GER, EGY-IRL, GUY-TUN, KAZ-AUS, KAZ-CHN, NOR-NED, SUI-IRL. Thanks for the hard work on these stats. If not too much to ask, I’d like to see my voting history, since I’ve lost some of it. I was well aware of Mexican one sided crush on French music, who if I remember correctly have only returned points on one ocasion. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 14,846 Posted November 24, 2021 #1335 Share Posted November 24, 2021 this is just scandalous, & embassies have been already informed Bohemia, dcro and Wanderer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted November 24, 2021 #1336 Share Posted November 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, mrv86 said: Thanks for the hard work on these stats. If not too much to ask, I’d like to see my voting history, since I’ve lost some of it. I was well aware of Mexican one sided crush on French music, who if I remember correctly have only returned points on one ocasion. Here it is. Spoiler Edition Voter 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 2013O MEX MAR FRA USA SLO DEN SRB ITA SWE TUR ARG BRA POL 2014A MEX BRA GBR GER POL ITA KAZ ARG SRB MAR AUS SLO ROU 2014O MEX FRA IRL LAT ITA ARG SUI COL NZL GBR POL BRA ESP 2015A MEX CHI FRA GBR CAN SLO BRA DEN ARG ITA IRL LTU MLT 2015O MEX ARG POR MAR NED USA GER LTU CZE FIN ESP MDA CRO 2016A MEX ESP ITA POR CAN SLO BRA CHI TUN MLT INA LTU SVK 2016O MEX ITA LTU USA DEN NED IRL BRA ROU FRA CZE POL ALG 2017A MEX CRO IRI MLT SRB DEN NZL ARG TUN SVK AZE BUL RUS 2017O MEX CAN ARG NZL USA IRL CRO BRA COL ESP NED POL ITA 2018A MEX IRL NOR BRA ITA ARG FIN MDA ALG SVK AUT GER IND 2018O MEX RUS COL BRA ALG USA POR POL DEN MLT BUL INA FRA 2019A MEX NED FRA LTU ITA DEN CRO ALG GER GBR VEN COL NZL 2019O MEX ALG NED AUS SWE ARG FIN ESP LTU SLO NZL CHI POL 2020A MEX AUS NOR POL BRA USA CAN FRA TUN CHN GER UKR GRE 2020O MEX MLT SRB ARG IRL CZE FRA NZL MDA ROU KAZ EGY POR 2021A MEX INA CAN KAZ USA FRA POR NOR SVK GRE NED ESP CRO 2021O MEX NZL CRO FRA ARG GRE SRB CZE DEN KAZ LTU UKR HUN mrv86 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer 1,726 Posted November 24, 2021 #1337 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Yup, in last 14 editions I awarded 114 points to Denmark, they got points in every edition except when they won Twice 12 pts, three times 11 and once 10 points included. Argentina also gets a lot of points from me, 78 points in total in last 14 editions, sitting on the second position right after Denmark. But indeed I think I don't get as much points from them neither. As for SVK, they got 0 in these 14 editions A curious case - I almost never award points to Poland, the only time got points - it was 12 USA is another case where no points have been awarded so far :curious: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungshamra71 892 Posted November 25, 2021 #1338 Share Posted November 25, 2021 18 hours ago, dcro said: Two-sided voting patterns - click to enlarge And here are the most one-sided relationships of TISC... Maybe I should have used a stricter criteria, or maybe TISC is just full of doomed relationships? Either way, I hope the map below is readable enough. This is super interesting! I knew i voted sometimes for some northern african songs but didn't knew there was this relation with Tunisia, i'm guessing Myrath and Emel Mathlouthi are responsible of this (that performance of her singing in the nobel peace price concert.... it's breathtaking....). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnl 691 Posted November 25, 2021 Author #1339 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 8:30 PM, Olympian1010 said: As @OlympicIRL said, one was already made for the contest. @Dnl can post as a parting gift perhaps? Yes I can and I will today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted November 25, 2021 #1340 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, kungshamra71 said: This is super interesting! I knew i voted sometimes for some northern african songs but didn't knew there was this relation with Tunisia, i'm guessing Myrath and Emel Mathlouthi are responsible of this (that performance of her singing in the nobel peace price concert.... it's breathtaking....). Didn't @bestmen accuse you of being a Tunisian once or twice? I think I can remember it. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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