Makedonas

He was sick at World Cup II, though I agree with your ranking that he should be 4th.

Ntouskos and Mackintosh being in the same heat is kind of crazy

I don't have time to read everyone's comments here but one day (obviously after the Games because I won't have much time the next two weeks ) I will come back and look at them because I'm very interested in them. I have mixed feelings about the ceremony. I liked some segments but some dragged too long. The boat parade sounded like a cool idea (and at first I was thinking how did Greece not think to do that in 2004 ), but in the end I didn't like it. It was kind of all over the place and I prefer the old format. The cameras also barely showed the flag bearers and it seemed very rushed, the angles were too far away too. I always love watching the parade of athletes so I can see all the athletes I know from different countries and this year it was very hard to do

2024 Wimbledon: Women's Singles Qualifying: Round 1: Despina Papamichail GRE d. Elizabeth Mandlik USA 7-6(10) 2-6 6-4 Round 1: Amanda Anisimova USA d. Valentini Grammatikopoulou GRE 6-2 6-3 Round 2: (5) Erika Andreeva RUS d. Despina Papamichail GRE 6-1 7-6(4) Men's Singles: Round 1: (11) Stefanos Tsitsipas GRE d. Taro Daniel JPN 7-6(5) 6-4 7-5 Round 2: Emil Ruusuvuori FIN d. (11) Stefanos Tsitsipas GRE 7-6(6) 7-6(10) 3-6 6-3 Women's Singles: Round 1: (9) Maria Sakkari GRE d. (Q) McCartney Kessler USA 6-3 6-1 Round 2: (9) Maria Sakkari GRE d. Arantxa Rus NED 7-5 6-3 Round 3: (WC) Emma Raducanu GBR d. (9) Maria Sakkari GRE 6-2 6-3 Men's Doubles: Round 1: (11) Gonzalez/Molteni ARG d. Tsitsipas GRE/Tsitsipas GRE 7-6(3) 6-3

Sorry but this is getting ridiculous now ...anyways, how far out is Despina Papamichail from making it into women's singles now?

2024 European Junior Artistic Swimming Championships: SILVER Sofia Rigakou and Vasiliki Thanou - Duet Free Team - Acrobatic routine Team - Technical routine BRONZE Zoi Karangelou - Solo Free Sofia Rigakou and Vasiliki Thanou - Duet Technical Team - Free routine

2024 European Youth Artistic Swimming Championships: SILVER Ismini Karavasili - Solo Free Ismini Karavasili and Ilektra Rapti - Duet Free Team - Free routine BRONZE Stylianos Koukouselis Fouskis and Danai Tsaprali - Mixed Duet Free

2024 European Aquatics Championships: GOLD Team - Free routine SILVER Team - Acrobatic routine Team - Technical routine

2024 European Youth Weightlifting Championships: GOLD Paraskevi Karathanasi - Women's 55 kg Clean & Jerk Maria Stratoudaki - Women's 49 kg Clean & Jerk SILVER Paraskevi Karathanasi - Women's 55 kg Total Maria Stratoudaki - Women's 49 kg Total BRONZE Maria Stratoudaki - Women's 49 kg Snatch

2024 European Junior Open Water Swimming Championships: GOLD: Konstantinos Chouradakis - Boys' 5km SILVER: Georgia Makri - Girls' 10km

2024 FIBA U20 European Championship: Group A: 75 - 73 68 - 75 62 - 68 Round of 16: 68 - 65 Quarterfinals: 87 - 82 Semifinals: 57 - 69 Bronze medal match: 70 - 68

Now it is official, she's out of Paris 2024 of course.

Κατά τη γνώμη μου: ΜΕΓΑΛΕΣ ΠΙΘΑΝΟΤΗΤΕΣ Μίλτος Τεντόγλου – στίβος (μήκος) Λευτέρης Πετρούνιας – ενόργανη (κρίκοι) ΚΑΛΕΣ ΠΙΘΑΝΟΤΗΤΕΣ Ελισάβετ Τελτσίδου – τζούντο (70κ) Απόστολος Χρήστου – κολύμβηση (100μ ύπτιο) Εμμανουήλ Καραλής – στίβος (επί κοντώ) Άννα Κορακάκη – σκοποβολή (10/25μ) Ελλάδα- σκοποβολή (Μικτό σκιτ) Εθνική υδατοσφαίρισης – ανδρών Στέφανος Ντούσκος – κωπηλασία (σκιφ) ΕΛΠΙΔΕΣ ΜΕΤΑΛΛΙΟΥ Νταουρέν Κουρουγκλιεβ – πάλη (86κ) Δώρα Γκουντούρα – ξιφασκία (σπάθη) Εμμανουέλα Κατζουράκη – σκοποβολή (σκιτ) Στέφανος Τσιτσιπάς/Μαρία Σάκκαρη – τένις (μικτο) Εθνική υδατοσφαίρισης – γυναικών ΕΚΠΛΗΞΗ Στέφανος Τσιτσιπάς – τένις (απλό) Μαρία Σάκκαρη – τένις (απλό) Εθνική καλαθοσφαίρισης – ανδρών Κριστιάν Γκολομέεβ – κολύμβηση (50μ ελεύθερο) Απόστολος Σίσκος – κολύμβηση (100μ ύπτιο) Απόστολος Παπασταμος – κολύμβηση (400μ μικτή ατομική) Άλκης Κυνηγάκης - κολύμβηση (10χμ) Κατερίνα Στεφανίδη – στίβος (επί κοντώ) Ελίνα Τζένγκο - στίβος (ακοντισμός) Χριστίνα Μόσχη - σκοποβολή (10μ) Μάκης Μίτας – σκοποβολή (σκιτ) Μπάμπης Χαλκιαδάκης - σκοποβολή (σκιτ) Ευαγγελία Αναστασιάδου/Χριστίνα Μπούρμπου - κωπηλασία (δίκωπος) Ζωή Φιτσιου/Δήμητρα Κοντού - κωπηλασία (διπλό σκιφ ελ. βαρών) Πέτρος Γκαϊδατζής/Αντώνης Παπακωνσταντίνου - κωπηλασία (διπλό σκιφ ελ. βαρών) Γιώργος Κουγιουμτσίδης – πάλη (74κ) Μαρία Πρεβολαράκη – πάλη (53κ)

Inspired by my "Tokyo 2020 Country Profiles" topic, it's time for people to post some interesting facts/figures about their country’s delegations. I’ll start with Greece By the numbers: 30th Summer Olympic appearance (tied for most of all-time) 100 = athletes in Paris (largest team since London 2012. We had 83 in Tokyo 2020) 59 = male athletes in Paris (46 in Tokyo 2020) 41 = female athletes in Paris (37 in Tokyo 2020) 16 = sports in Paris (17 in 2020, 15 in 2016, 19 in 2012, 22 in 2008) 59 = Olympic debutants in Paris 41 = former Olympians in Paris 1 = mother in Paris, Alexandra Asimaki-water polo (we had 4 in Tokyo 2020 but two retired, the other two missed qualification, and we also had another two from Tokyo who became mothers since then but missed qualification also) 32 = athletes born in 2000 or later (we had 18 in Tokyo 2020, you would think we'd have more now but I guess it was only 3 years since then instead of 4) 35 = age of oldest Olympic debutant (Nick Calathes-basketball) 6 = former Youth Olympics participants (3 from 2014 and 3 from 2018) 6 = most Olympic appearances (Panagiotis Gionis-table tennis). He is our only athlete in Paris who was at Athens 2004! 5 = former Olympic gold medalists (Anna Korakaki-shooting, Stefanos Ntouskos-rowing, Eleftherios Petrounias-gymnastics, Ekaterini Stefanidi-athletics, Miltiadis Tentoglou-athletics) 12 = former Olympic medalists (same as above +7 male water polo players) Athletes with the most Olympic appearances (including Paris) : 6: Panagiotis Gionis (table tennis - 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024) 4: Theodora Drakou (swimming - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Ioannis Fountoulis (water polo - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Kristian Gkolomeev (swimming - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Byron Kokkalanis (sailing - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Evangelia Platanioti (artistic swimming - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Maria Prevolaraki (wrestling - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Ekaterini Stefanidi (athletics - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024), Andreas Vazaios (swimming - 2012, 2016, 2020, 2024) Former Olympians who were not in Tokyo: Alexandra Asimaki (water polo - 2008, 2024) Efthimios Mitas (shooting - 2012, 2016, 2024) Three youngest Olympians: 1. Evangelos Ntoumas (swimming) - 16 years, 0 months 2. Dimitra Kontou (rowing) - 18 years, 10 months 3. Apostolos Siskos (swimming) - 19 years, 1 month Three oldest Olympians: 1. Panagiotis Gionis (table tennis) - 44 years, 6 months 2. Antigoni Drisbioti (athletics) - 40 years, 4 months 3. Efthimios Mitas (shooting) - 39 years, 2 months Siblings: 1. Eleftheria Plevritou (water polo), Margarita Plevritou (water polo), and Vasiliki Plevritou (water polo) 2. Petros Tsitsipas (tennis) and Stefanos Tsitsipas (tennis) 3. Ariadni Spanaki (sailing) and Odysseas Spanakis (sailing) 4. Stamatia Scarvelis (athletics) and Nicholas Scarvelis (athletics, 2016) *Those in italics competed in the past but are not in Paris. Parents/Children: 1. Maria Sakkari (tennis) and Angeliki Kanellopoulou (tennis, 1984) 2. Ioli Mytilineou (equestrian) and Hannah Roberson-Mytilinaiou (equestrian, 2004) 3. Alexandros Papanastasiou (water polo) and Anastasios Papanastasiou (water polo, 1984, 1988, 1992, and 1996) 4. Athina Giannopoulou (water polo) and Stavros Giannopoulos (water polo, 1984) 5. Maria Patra (water polo) and Evangelos Patras (water polo, 1988, 1992, and 1996) 6. Kristian Gkolomeev (swimming) and Tsvetan Gkolomeev (swimming, 1980 and 1988) *Those in italics competed in the past but are not in Paris. Top cities with the most 2024 Olympians: 1. Athens - too many to count 2. Thessaloniki, Macedonia - 12 3. Chania, Crete - 6 4. Heraklion, Crete - 3 5. Grevena, Macedonia - 2 *First time since 1980 that no athletes from Volos, Thessaly are going to the Olympics, and first time since 1992 that no athletes from Larisa, Thessaly are going to the Olympics. Athletes born in other countries: Nick Calathes (basketball) - His paternal grandfather is Greek and he has spent 9 seasons in the Greek domestic league Kristian Gkolomeev (swimming) - His family moved to Greece when he was an infant and he lived in Greece his entire life Tatiana Gusin (athletics) - She moved to Greece at age 7 Dauren Kurugliev (wrestling) - No real connection, we shamelessly gave him citizenship out of nowhere last year Kameron Maramenidis (sailing) - His father is Greek Theodoros Tselidis (judo) - His father is Greek and he moved to Greece in 2018 Stamatia Scarvelis (athletics) - Both of her parents are Greeks Thomas Walkup (basketball) - Similar to Kurugliev but in his case he has at least played 3+ seasons in the Greek domestic league Athletes from Greece but representing other countries: Anna-Maria Alexandri (artistic swimming), Eirini Alexandri (artistic swimming) Marilia Mimides (water polo) Sideris Tasiadis (canoeing) [okay he is different from the others because he lived most of his life in Germany and likely learned the sport there but he did live in Greece for 10 years during his childhood so we’ll count him] Athletes that train in Greece but represent other countries: Kalia Antoniou (swimming), Nikolaos Antoniou (swimming) Tori Franklin (athletics) *I didn’t include people who play for Greek clubs in team sports because in water polo for example there would be so many. Biggest teams by sport: Water Polo: 26 in 2 events Swimming: 17 in 11 events Athletics: 13 in 14 events Basketball: 12 in 1 event Rowing: 7 in 4 events Biggest changes in team size compared to Tokyo: (+)13: Water Polo (+)12: Basketball (-)7: Artistic Swimming (-)7: Athletics (+)5: Swimming Events where more than one athlete/team per country is allowed to participate, and the country has reached the maximum quotas: Athletics: women’s pole vault (3) Shooting: men's skeet (2), women's 10m air pistol (2) Swimming: men's 50 m freestyle (2), men's 100 m backstroke (2), men’s 200 m backstroke (2), women’s 100 m butterfly (2) First time qualifying in… Shooting women's skeet EVER Shooting mixed skeet EVER Equestrian since 2004 Tennis men's doubles since 2004 Basketball since 2008 Tennis women's doubles since 2008 Women's water polo since 2008 Men's swimming 4x200 freestyle relay since 2008 First time not qualifying in… Women's triple jump EVER Weightlifting since 1956 Any men's track or road event since 1988 Hurdles events since 1988 Cycling - track since 1988 Triple jump since 1992 (women's triple jump didn't begin until 1996) Women's sailing since 1992 (though we did qualify in a mixed event here) Archery since 1996 Men's race walking since 1996 Men's swimming 200m individual medley since 1996 Men's 110 hurdles since 2004 Cycling - mountain biking since 2008 Other interesting facts: -In 2004 (8 and 8), 2008 (2 and 2), 2012 (1 and 1) and 2016 (3 and 3), each time Greece had the same amount of men’s medals as women’s medals. Then in 2020, we won 4 men's medals and 0 women's medals. It will be interesting to see what the breakdown of medals by gender will be this year. -This is our 12th consecutive Olympic participation in men's water polo. We've never had more than two consecutive participations in any other team sport. In Tokyo, they won their first Olympic medal which was a silver. Our boys have also won 4 World Championships medals, including bronze in 2022 and silver in 2023, but never gold. Will this be the time that our men's team finally win a golds medal? -As mentioned, it is our first time qualifying for men's basketball since 2008, and women's water polo since 2008. The (arguably) most successful player on each of those teams will be in Paris, as Vasilis Spanoulis is now coaching the men's basketball team, and Alexandra Asimaki came out of retirement and rejoined our women's water polo team. Nobody else on those rosters from Beijing will be in Paris as an athlete or head coach! -Race walker Antigoni Drisbioti will be making her 3rd Olympic appearance, this time at 40yo. She was 32 in Rio and 37 in Tokyo. I guess it's pretty rare from someone in a sport like athletics to never make it to the Olympics until their 30s and then make it 3 times! -Javelin thrower Elina Tzengko is Greece's first Olympian (man or woman) of Albanian descent (by far the largest immigrant group in Greece) since Savva Lika in 2012, who was coincidentally also a javelin thrower. The only other Greek female Olympian of Albanian descent that I know of is Mirela Manjani, who won medals for Greece in Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004. Coincidentally, she was also a javelin thrower! So all three Albanian-Greek women to compete in the Olympics were javelin throwers! And it's not like Albania is some powerhouse in throwing events or anything Also unlike Lika and Manjani, Tzengko was born in Greece and is not an immigrant. -Greece has never won an Olympic swimming medal in a pool, only a bunch of medals in 1896 when the swimming events took place in the sea, and an open water medal from 2016. Based on the recent performances of some of our swimmers, especially Apostolos Christou in the men's 100m backstroke, could this be the first time we win a swimming medal in a pool? -We have also not won medals in fencing or tennis since 1896, and I think we have good chances this time with Theodora Gkountoura in the women's sabre (she won bronze at the last World Championships), and perennial top 10 players Maria Sakkari and Stefanos Tsitsipas in tennis (especially in mixed doubles but also they have some chances in singles). Also it's a shame that Despina Georgiadou, who is ranked 3rd in the world in the women's sabre and won medals at the last two World Championships, is not allowed to compete in Paris as Greece did not qualify in the team event... -23 yo Emmanouela Katzouraki is the first Greek to ever qualify in the women's skeet. She won bronze at the World Championships last year, and should have a decent shot at a medal not only in that event but also in the mixed event with men's reigning world champion Efthimios Mitas. I think her winning a medal would be a really great story that would make big news in Greece, because she was actually a passenger and a survivor of the Tempi train crash in February 2023. It was (and still is) a very big topic in Greece, it was the deadliest crash in Greek history and 57 people died. Katzouraki was lucky that she only suffered minor injuries. Had she sat in a different wagon she would not be in Paris or any other Olympic Games... -Greece continues our rowing tradition of sending lightweight rowers in the open categories. In 2016, it was Nikolaidou who finished 4th in the women's double sculls (she won two World Championship medals in the lightweight single sculls in 2013 and 2014 before having to switch to double sculls in 2015 as she could not find a good lightweight partner for Rio). In 2020, it was Ntouskos who won gold in the men's single sculls (he was 6th in 2016 in the men's lightweight four as a 19 yo). Now, not only will Ntouskos be back in Paris, but also his girlfriend, Evangelia Anastasiadou will be competing in the women's pair. She is 165cm and had a similar situation to Nikolaidou where she switched to an open weight category. With lightweight rowing being axed from the Olympic programme, Greece is a good example for other countries to follow on how to transition the lightweight rowers to the open categories! Feel free to add any other interesting facts about your countries’ teams!

They (SI) have a history of predicting Greece for medals in events that we did not even qualify in and I guess it happened again here with Despina Georgiadou winning silver in the women's sabre, in 2012 I remember they said our women's water polo team and Ioannis Arzoumanidis in wrestling would win medals, neither qualified though

Well I see 7 medals for us, which I am okay with, except they give a silver in fencing for Despina Georgiadou who didn't even qualify for Paris Of course I can't blame them, I mean she is ranked 3rd in the world so 99% of people would assume she is qualified for the Olympics in any sport but apparently not in fencing...

2024 European Athletics U18 Championships: Gold: Anastasia Boumpoulidi - women's pole vault Maria Rafailidou - women's shot put Silver: Melina Zaragka - women's triple jump Bronze: Anastasia Andreadi - women's shot put

We beat Belgium to win bronze. A good tournament for us although some bad mistakes at the end almost let Belgium back in the game but I won't complain

Anastasia Boumpoulidi gold medal in pole vault So now we had 4 medals here, all in women's field events, two of them gold! Good to see the future of Greek women's pole vaulting is in good hands. Iliana Triantafyllou won gold at the last edition of this Championships as well.

Σάββατο 27 Ιουλίου Kωπηλασία 10:00 προκριματικά σκιφ ανδρών - Στέφανος Ντούσκος Κολύμβηση 12:00 προκριματικά 100μ. πεταλούδα γυναικών - Άννα Ντουντουνάκη, Γεωργία Δαμασιώτη 4Χ100μ ελεύθερο ανδρών – Στέργιος Μπίλας, Ανδρέας Βαζαίος, Οδυσσέας Μελαδίνης, Παναγιώτης Μπολάνος Ενόργανη γυμναστική 12:00 προκριματικά κρίκων – Λευτέρης Πετρούνιας 16:30 προκριματικά κρίκων – Λευτέρης Πετρούνιας 21:00 προκριματικά κρίκων – Λευτέρης Πετρούνιας Τένις 13:00 1ος γύρος απλού ανδρών και γυναικών (θα γίνει κλήρωση) Στέφανος Τσιτσιπάς, Μαρία Σάκκαρη 13:00 1ος γύρος διπλού ανδρών και γυναικών (θα γίνει κλήρωση) Στέφανος Τσιτσιπάς/Πέτρος Τσιτσιπάς – Μαρία Σάκκαρη/Δέσποινα Παπαμιχαήλ Σκοποβολή 13:30 προκριματικά 10μ. πιστόλι γυναικών – Αννα Κορακάκη, Χριστίνα Μόσχη Επιτραπέζια αντισφαίριση 16:00 προκριματικά απλού ανδρών – Παναγιώτης Γκιώνης Υδατοσφαίριση 16:35 Β’ Ομιλος 1η αγωνιστική γυναικών Ελλάδα – ΗΠΑ Καλαθοσφαίριση 22:00 Α’ Ομιλος ανδρών, 1η αγωνιστική Ελλάδα – Καναδάς

Έχουμε 17 κολυμβητές, όχι 16. Επίσης ξέρει κανείς τι γίνεται τώρα με την Φιλτισάκου;

3 medals for us on Day 2! Gold and bronze in the women's shot put which was a bit disappointing believe it or not, our girls were 1-2 before the last round and all week I was hoping we would go 1-2 in the final, but I guess I should not be greedy Also silver in the women's triple jump Big disappointment so far in the men's hammer with Tzamtzis having three fouls in qualifying. He is second in the world for U18s and I was hoping for a gold here. However we had Gentekos finish 1st in qualifying so maybe he can win a surprise medal instead?

No one watching the Men's U20 European Championships? Greece made it to the semifinals but we have been far from convincing, we have wasted large leads in all the games we won so far and each time almost lost at the end but held on for the win

Thank you for the 7 medals! Just a small correction, Gkountoura is sabre not epee, and Petrounias is rings not parallel bars. Also I am surprised that between you, Gracenote, and the Italian site, no one picked us to win a medal in men's water polo even though we won medals at the 2021 Olympics, 2022 World Championships, and 2023 World Championships... I think 3 shooting medals is a bit ambitious because of how surprising the sport can be, also I think tennis we have a strong chance (Tsitsipas is very good on clay, almost never loses before QF in a clay tournament, actually happened only once in the last two years, and also there is the mixed doubles event). I know we don't have any medal favourites in rowing or swimming but I can see us winning one medal in each as we have many people who are prob top 4-8 or so in people's predictions but not top 3, and Teltsidou (judo women's 70kg) I think has a 50/50 chance to win a medal. Also same for Emmanouil Karalis (men's pole vault) and the women's water polo team, I think they are probably 4th or 5th in most people's predictions.

Our Macedonian team: Athletics: Miltiadis Tentoglou (men's long jump) Polyniki Emmanouilidou (women's 100m) Elina Tzengko (women's javelin throw) Basketball: Kostas Mitoglou (men's team) Kostas Papanikolaou (men's team) I don't think we would qualify but there are some on our reserve team like Kouzeloglou and Tanoulis and also the injured Sloukas and Papapetrou who missed OQT and will likely miss the Olympics now. Rowing: Petros Gkaidatzis (men's lightweight double sculls - maybe in single sculls or with a new partner?) Evangelia Anastasiadou and Christina Bourmpou (women's pair) Zoi Fitsiou (women's lightweight double sculls - maybe in single sculls or with a new partner?) Shooting: Anna Korakaki (women's 10m air pistol, women's 25m pistol) Christina Moschi (women's 10m air pistol) Swimming: Apostolos Siskos (men's 200m backstroke) *Also I guess we would be allowed a woman with a universality quota which would probably be either Maria Drasidou or Despina Pyrili. Water Polo: Dimitrios Nikolaidis (men's team) Angelos Vlachopoulos (men's team) Eleftheria Plevritou (women's team) Margarita Plevritou (women's team) Vasiliki Plevritou (women's team) Again, I'm not sure if we would qualify in these events, though I think we'd have a better chance in both water polo events than the basketball team. Wrestling: Georgios Kougioumtsidis (men's freestyle -74kg) Also some others that probably would've made it: Artistic Swimming: We could've had a duet probably, many of our artistic swimmers are from Thessaloniki and Serres anyways, and actually Evangelia Platanioti who is part of Greece's duet in Paris has a mother from Serres so she could've chosen to represent our region perhaps Athletics: Konstantinos Zaltos (men's hammer throw) - He was the first alternate and two Greeks from Crete finished ahead of him in the Road to Paris, but he would've finished in the top 32 in the Road to Paris with a few more points which could've been achieved via National Championships. For example this year he finished 3rd behind the two Cretans and got 70 points instead of 100 for first place. That alone would've qualified him for Paris. Cycling: Possibly a road race quota Sailing: Possibly a mixed 470 quota but instead the athletes changed categories after Tokyo since it became a mixed event instead of men's and women's only (for example Pavlos Kagialis who won bronze in Rio and is from Thessaloniki...) As for medals, well Tentoglou and Korakaki would be very good chances and smaller chances for Siskos, Kougioumtsidis, Anastasiadou/Bourmpou, and Tzengko.