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Short Track Speed Skating at the Winter Olympic Games Beijing 2022

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1 minute ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

Yeah, I did it by NOC. Was it supposed to be by name?

I did it by NOC too but we have difference. I don't go through all quotas yet but I always keep on eye on KOR's quotas so I am quite sensitive to our difference. Below is our paper sheet on Men's 500m and KOR is 36th.

 

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Beijing 2022 Provisional Quotas after 3/4 World Cup Events   M 5000m Relay:    Canada  China  Hungary  Italy  Japan  Netherlands  ROC  South Kore

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Assuming all the countries in @Topicmaster1010 simulation get quotas, we’ll have the the same number of NOCs qualified for 2022 as in 2018, not counting the IOC invites for 2018. :BLR:SGP lose representation in the sport, while :HKG:UKR gain it.

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Assuming all the countries in @Topicmaster1010 simulation get quotas, we’ll have the the same number of NOCs qualified for 2022 as in 2018, not counting the IOC invites for 2018. :BLR:SGP lose representation in the sport, while :HKG:UKR gain it.

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1 hour ago, Vic Liu said:

I did it by NOC too but we have difference. I don't go through all quotas yet but I always keep on eye on KOR's quotas so I am quite sensitive to our difference. Below is our paper sheet on Men's 500m and KOR is 36th.

 

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I pretty much just looked at the world cup rankings for each distance and went down the list until I got to the maximum number of skaters allowed in that distance making sure that I only picked 3 for each country. In the men's 500m, the 3rd Korean is ranked 34th but qualifies because both the Netherland's and China have 4 skaters ahead of him. https://shorttrack.sportresult.com/Rankings.aspx?evt=11213100000092&rep=65310

 

Edit: Oh wait, now I see what you did! You calculated the results for each individual world cup whereas I just looked at the overall ranking.

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Final Short Track Speed Skating Quotas

 

  Men Women Mixed Total Quotas
NOC 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Mixed Relay Men Women Total
:AUS Australia   1               1 0 1
:BEL Belgium 1 1 1   1 1 1     1 1 2
:CAN Canada 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:CHN China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:CZE Czech Republic             1     0 1 1
:FRA France 2 2 2   2 3 2   x 2 3 5
:GER Germany             2     0 2 2
:GBR Great Britain   2 1   2 1 1   x 2 2 4
:HKG Hong Kong 1                 1 0 1
:HUN Hungary 3 3 3 x 2 2 2   x 5 2 7
:ISR Israel   1 1             1 0 1
:ITA Italy 2 2 3 x 3 2 3 x x 5 5 10
:JPN Japan 2 2 3 x 1 3 3   x 4 3 7
:KAZ Kazakhstan 3 1 2     1 1   x 3 2 5
:LAT Latvia 1 1 2             2 0 2
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:POL Poland         3 1 2 x   0 4 4
:ROC ROC 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:KOR South Korea 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:UKR Ukraine 1           1     1 1 2
:USA United States 1 2 3   3 3 2 x x 3 5 8
Total (21 NOC's) 32 32 36 8 32 32 36 8 12 56 56 112

 

No mens from :POL:(

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Final Short Track Speed Skating Quotas

 

  Men Women Mixed Total Quotas
NOC 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Mixed Relay Men Women Total
:AUS Australia   1               1 0 1
:BEL Belgium 1 1 1   1 1 1     1 1 2
:CAN Canada 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:CHN China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:CZE Czech Republic             1     0 1 1
:FRA France 2 2 2   2 3 2   x 2 3 5
:GER Germany             2     0 2 2
:GBR Great Britain   2 1   2 1 1   x 2 2 4
:HKG Hong Kong 1                 1 0 1
:HUN Hungary 3 3 3 x 2 2 2   x 5 2 7
:ISR Israel   1 1             1 0 1
:ITA Italy 2 2 3 x 3 2 3 x x 5 5 10
:JPN Japan 2 2 3 x 1 3 3   x 4 3 7
:KAZ Kazakhstan 3 1 2     1 1   x 3 2 5
:LAT Latvia 1 1 2             2 0 2
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:POL Poland         3 1 2 x   0 4 4
:ROC ROC 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:KOR South Korea 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:UKR Ukraine 1           1     1 1 2
:USA United States 1 2 3   3 3 2 x x 3 5 8
Total (21 NOC's) 32 32 36 8 32 32 36 8 12 56 56 112

 

Got the exact same total. But the wiki page still displays incomprehensible rankings. I checked and it was the same 4 years ago, they didn't match the qualification WC rankings at all :wacko:

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Final Short Track Speed Skating Quotas

 

  Men Women Mixed Total Quotas
NOC 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Mixed Relay Men Women Total
:AUS Australia   1               1 0 1
:BEL Belgium 1 1 1   1 1 1     1 1 2
:CAN Canada 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:CHN China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:CZE Czech Republic             1     0 1 1
:FRA France 2 2 2   2 3 2   x 2 3 5
:GER Germany             2     0 2 2
:GBR Great Britain   2 1   2 1 1   x 2 2 4
:HKG Hong Kong 1                 1 0 1
:HUN Hungary 3 3 3 x 2 2 2   x 5 2 7
:ISR Israel   1 1             1 0 1
:ITA Italy 2 2 3 x 3 2 3 x x 5 5 10
:JPN Japan 2 2 3 x 1 3 3   x 4 3 7
:KAZ Kazakhstan 3 1 2     1 1   x 3 2 5
:LAT Latvia 1 1 2             2 0 2
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:POL Poland         3 1 2 x   0 4 4
:ROC ROC 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:KOR South Korea 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10
:UKR Ukraine 1           1     1 1 2
:USA United States 1 2 3   3 3 2 x x 3 5 8
Total (21 NOC's) 32 32 36 8 32 32 36 8 12 56 56 112

 

 

According to what I counted, there should be also a spot for :CZE and :CRO 500 m Women's event.  But let's see what ISU comes up with. There will surely be some reallocations ..... Pity that :CZE men did not qualify anyone cause their appearance at the world cup events was influenced by covid :-( 

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Quotas distribution by my friends and my understanding of the document and past experience of 2018 WOG.(mainly credit to @Function CR Lee).

 

Some notes of it:

1. BEL's Mixed relay berth is replaced by 13th POL because only 1 men and 1 women qualified

2. POL got an extra men's quota and KAZ got an extra women's quota to fulfill the minimum mixed relay requirement, ie 2 men and 2 women.

3. POL got an extra women's quota because after procedure 2 still one more women's quota available so it gave to the only women's relay team not full yet.

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I'm baffled. Aščić is 33rd in the rankings (when counting max 3 per NOC), how can she be in the Top 32 then?

 

Don't give me false hopes guys. :p

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29 minutes ago, dcro said:

I'm baffled. Aščić is 33rd in the rankings (when counting max 3 per NOC), how can she be in the Top 32 then?

 

Don't give me false hopes guys. :p

By different calculation method. Let's wait the ISU confirmation then.:d

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