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Can’t believe that German television is showing a trash event like women’s combined instead of men’s giant slalom.

Please stop trolling/don’t talk about things you have no clue of/inform yourself before talking nonsense. Thanks!

Don’t know what you mean with „Riiber did the same“. I am sure he didn’t plan to have such a bad jump. Not sure what happened with the Germans today but if Geiger would have been in normal shape, Riiber might have very well lost this race (given that Geiger started almost at the same time as Herola and usually is at pretty much the same level of skiing, but much better at sprints). Recently the German guys completely dominated Oftebro in cross-country skiing and often took around 1 minute off of him. It is very surprising that he also was able to beat someone like Watabe. I think either a lot of guys are completely out of shape or they just couldn’t deal with the conditions (maybe thanks to bad material). In a usual race there is no way that Oftebro would have finished ahead of Frenzel/Riessle/Watabe and that Herola would have finished that far ahead of Geiger.

Interesting that there won’t be any Norwegians in the youth races tomorrow. Looking at the start list of the women’s race I would predict at least one medal for Russia (thanks to their superior speed) and the other two medals should go to two out of Zingerle/Michelon/Repinc.

Surprised about Greenland. I think at least one out of Sweden and Slovenia will medal. Edit: After reading this I actually see a good chance for Slovenia to finish top 5 in medal table (by number of medals): https://www.biathlonworld.com/news/detail/who-will-be-the-next-jt-boe-and-lisa-theresa-hauser Cisar and Repinc seem to be special talents.

Too bad that there won’t be a free live stream. I prefer watching junior events because doping isn’t as big a problem at junior level.

Yes, all endurance events. I understand the coaches though, doping your athletes as a German coach is pretty close to suicide. In the US no one really gives a shit. No surprise that British rowing, British cycling and Swedish biathlon was made big by German coaches who weren’t wanted here, they can’t pull off the same shit in Germany.

Really? I think barely any experts considered him the favorite before the start with only 20 seconds advantage compared to Riessle/Frenzel. Obviously the Norwegians either had insane material or had a great „training“ camp. When even some rando like Oftebro can beat Riessle/Frenzel, you know that something weird is going on.

Would you rather sacrifice one child to save two adults or two children to save four adults?

a) Sorry, not sure what you are trying to say. b) I don’t wonder why Norway is able to develop world class speed skaters unlike Germany. Germany doesn’t develop world class speed skaters because they don’t want to and they don’t want to, because thanks to the GDR past German coaches are too „scared“ to develop a doping program. Other nations don’t have that „baggage“.

I just heard that Pichler was involved in „developing“ him. I think this is all the proof one needs.

I don’t think you can apply normal „logic“ today. The conditions will be special thanks to the temperatures, we might have a very soft course, which would Help lighter athletes (Herola). The German coach just said that he hopes for a hard course, because the German athletes are generally on the heavier side. Personally I wouldn’t be shocked to see Herola/Geiger on the podium.

Agreed, the funny thing is that thanks to this, the men have 2 team competitions and the women have only 1, so it promotes inequality. In my opinion there absolutely shouldn’t be normal team events/relays and mixed team events/relays. In some cases it makes sense to have a mixed team event/relay instead of normal relays/team events (if it increases the number of nations that can compete for a medal), not sure about ski jumping though. Quite interesting that there actually might be more competition on the women’s side. I think having a women’s team competition might also be good for the level of competition in the long run, because nations will have to develop 4 good athletes in order to compete for a medal. I really hope that we won’t have 7 ski jumping competitions at the Olympics in the long run (2 x 2 individual competitions + 3 team competitions), there is absolutely no way that ski jumping should have that many events, when for example figure skating only has 5 events (and one of those actually shouldn’t be an Olympic event). Personally I would like to see less events overall, but sadly this won’t happen (thanks to monetary reasons).

Forgot to ask: Is the mixed an Olympic event?

Which 10 nations do you have in mind? Last year 12 different nations won a medal and surprisingly Sweden wasn’t one of them. I doubt that Bulgaria will medal again and Belarus/USA each won only one bronze last year, on the other hand this time nations like Kazakhstan, Ukraine or New Zealand could medal. The following individual medalists will be young enough to return (in the same age category): - Amy Baserga (won bronze in junior women individual) - Linda Zingerle (won gold in youth women sprint and bronze in youth women pursuit) - Oceane Michelon (won bronze in youth women sprint) - Anastasia Shevchenko (won gold in junior women sprint and gold in junior women pursuit) - Aasne Skrede (won silver in junior women sprint and silver in women junior pursuit) - Danilo Riethmüller (won gold in junior men pursuit) - Alex Cisar (won bronze in junior men pursuit) From a German perspective I hope that Danilo Riethmüller will win at least one medal again. Not sure about the women’s side though, there doesn’t seem to be a special talent. Germany seems to have the same problem as usual: They just aren’t competitive in cross-country. I guess on the women’s side Zingerle should dominate at youth level and Shevchenko/Aasne should dominate at junior level, on the men’s side it looks more open.

True, I don’t see them beating Norway or Austria, but they could beat every other nation.

Agreed. I honestly can’t believe what is going on. Now we might have 3 olympics in a row without a bidding process. Everyone knows that IOC officials are corrupt and always have been, but I can’t believe that they don’t Even bother anymore to hide it, they must feel untouchable. I hope that countries will boycott the 2032 games if there won’t be a fair process to determine the host. Sadly this won’t happen though ...

Why do you feel the need to make absurd statements like that? a) Of the countries I mentioned Turkey (2020), Italy (2004), Canada (2008) and Spain (2012, 2016, 2020) all handed in bids that got a lot of votes (which is pretty much the definition of handing in a „legitimate“ bid). Germany (2000) and Russia (2012) also bid at one point. b) How can you judge which countries would have handed in „legitimate“ bids, when those countries weren’t even given the chance to hand in a bid?

Yes, I meant Olympic events. I think before the start of the event, 2 medals seemed like their best case scenario and this was basically their only gold medal chance.

Here is a list of countries that have a bigger population than Australia and won’t have hosted summer Olympics between 2000 and 2032: Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, South Korea, Russia, Canada, India, Mexico, Turkey Do you really think that Australia should host summer Olympics twice during that period while all the aforementioned countries didn’t even host them once combined? Of course you could argue that some hosted Winter Olympics recently, but I am not sure why you should throw those two things together.

I never said that they shouldn’t host, but that they shouldn’t host again so soon. The Olympics are a global event and Never were only about Sport (otherwise I doubt that we for example would have had olympics in Sochi), so if a country with 25 million people hosts them twice in 32 years while a country with 1.5 billion people has hosted them only once, it doesn’t really represent the weight of those nations. 25 million people get to enjoy the Olympics twice in 32 years in their home country, while India and China combined (3 billion people) have only hosted the Olympics once combined. It is also difficult to say that they only host it because no one else wants to, when in fact other nations wanted to host but got excluded before even being able to bid.

Area doesn’t matter, GDP and population size do.

Insane start for Slovenia. They might have already exceeded their expectations.

Some interesting stat i read today (maybe someone is interested): The last 4 german male gold medalists at junior world championships were: Tom Barth (sprint 2011) Johannes Kühn (pursuit 2011) Max Barchwitz (individual 2020) Danilo Riethmüller (pursuit 2020) I was quite surprised when I read this, I would have thought that Germany had many more individual world champions during that time (Russia won 10 golds during that time and Norway won 7). Will be interesting to see how Barchwitz and especially Riethmüller will develop.

I wasn’t talking about sporting relevance (which you would have known if you would have bothered to ask instead of making assumptions). I was referring to political relevance/population size. Countries like Austria or Switzerland are also regularly doing great at Winter Olympics, but that doesn’t mean that they should host Olympics twice in such a short period. The Netherlands are a comparable country, but no one would think that they should host the Olympics two times out of nine editions.