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Not sure which event(s) from the 2019 world champs you mean? On the men‘s side the medalists were: Super G: Gold for Paris (Bib 3), silver for Clarey (Bib 14), bronze for Kriechmayer (Bib 9) Downhill: Gold for Jansrud (Bib 6), silver for Svindal (Bib 9), bronze for Kriechmayer (Bib 17) On the women’s side the medalists were: Super G: Gold for Shiffrin (Bib 15), silver for Goggia (Bib 3), bronze for Suter (Bib 4) Downhill: Gold for Stuhec (Bib 9), silver for Suter (Bib 19), bronze for Vonn (Bib 3)

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The fact that they have to host the world champs in a country like that should be a sign for the UCI. Only host the world champs every 2nd year in the future.

They should just get rid of the combined and the other gimmick events, then they would have more flexibility. Also it might make sense to have the world champs in March when there is generally less snow.

The timing graphics during Aparjode‘s run were a complete mess. Surprising victory for Vitola, never heard of her before. Any chance that Italy can naturalize her?

[hide] Event & Date Athletes Gold Silver Bronze Women's Alpine Combined Day 1 February 8th, 2021 Franziska Gritsch Ramona Siebenhofer Ricarda Haaser Marie-Michele Gagnon Ester Ledecka Marta Bassino Federica Brignone Elena Curtoni Ragnhild Mowinckel Petra Vlhova Michelle Gisin Lara Gut-Behrami Wendy Holdener Mikaela Shiffrin Any Other Athlete Women's Super-G Day 2 February 9th, 2021 Tamara Tippler Any Other Austrian Athlete Marie-Michele Gagnon Ester Ledecka Marta Bassino Federica Brignone X Kajsa Vickhoff Lie Petra Vlhova Ilka Stuhec Michelle Gisin Lara Gut-Behrami X Priska Nufer Corinne Suter X Any American Athlete Any Other Athlete Men's Super-G Day 2 February 9th, 2021 Vincent Kreichmayr X Matthias Mayer X Any Other Austrian Athlete Alexis Pinturault Andreas Sander Christof Innerhofer Dominik Paris Kjetil Jansrud Beat Feuz Marco Odermatt X Ryan Cochran-Siegle Travis Ganong Any Other Athlete Men's Alpine Combined Day 3 February 10th, 2021 Vincent Kreichmayr Matthias Mayer Marco Schwarz Victor Muffat-Jeandet Alexis Pinturault Any Italian Athlete Kjetil Jansrud Luca Aerni Loic Meillard Justin Murisier Ryan Cochran-Siegle Any Other Athlete Women's Downhill Day 4 February 13th, 2021 Tamara Tippler Any Other Austrian Athlete Ester Ledecka X Kira Weidle Elena Curtoni Laura Pirovano Kajsa Vickhoff Lie Ilka Stuhec Michelle Gisin Lara Gut-Behrami Corinne Suter X Breezy Johnson X Any Other Athlete Men's Downhill Day 5 February 14th, 2021 Vincent Kreichmayr Matthias Mayer X Otmar Striedinger Johan Clarey Romed Baumann Andreas Sander Christof Innerhofer Dominik Paris X Kjetil Jansrud Martin Cater Beat Feuz X Carlo Janka Ryan Cochran-Siegle Travis Ganong Any Other Athlete Women's Parallel GS Day 6 February 16th, 2021 Franziska Gritsch Elisa Moerzinger Katharina Truppe Any French Athlete Marta Bassino Federica Brignone Kristin Lysdahl Thea Louise Stjernesund Petra Vlhova Any Slovenian Athlete Sara Hector Lara Gut-Behrami Wendy Holdener Mikaela Shiffrin Any Other Athlete Men's Parallel GS Day 6 February 16th, 2021 Fabian Gstrein Roland Leitinger Filip Zubcic Alexis Pinturault Stefan Luitz Alexander Schmid Henrik Kristoffersen Any Other Norwegian Athlete Zan Kranjec Semyel Bissig Gino Caviezel Any Other Swiss Athlete Any Other Athlete Mixed Team Parallel Event Day 7 February 17th, 2021 Austria X France X Germany Italy Norway Slovakia Slovenia Sweden Switzerland X United States Any Other Nation Women's Giant Slalom Day 8 February 18th, 2021 Katharina Liensberger Any Other Austrian Athlete Tessa Worley X Marta Bassino X Federica Brignone Alice Robinson Mina Fuerst Holtmann Petra Vlhova Meta Hrovat Sara Hector Michelle Gisin Lara Gut-Behrami Wendy Holdener Mikaela Shiffrin X Any Other Athlete Men's Giant Slalom Day 9 February 19th, 2021 Roland Leitinger Marco Schwarz Filip Zubcic Alexis Pinturault X Any Other French Athlete Alexander Schmid Luca De Aliprandini Henrik Kristoffersen X Leif Kristian Nestvold-Haugen Zan Kranjec Loic Meillard Justin Murisier Marco Odermatt X Any Other Athlete Women's Slalom Day 10 February 20th, 2021 Katharina Liensberger X Chiara Mair Katharina Truppe Any Canadian Athlete Martina Dubovska Lena Duerr Irene Curtoni Kristin Lysdahl Any Other Norwegian Athlete Petra Vlhova X Michelle Gisin Wendy Holdener Mikaela Shiffrin X Any Other Athlete Men's Slalom Day 11 February 21st, 2021 Manuel Feller Michael Matt Marco Schwarz X Clement Noel X Alexis Pinturault Linus Strasser Dave Ryding Alex Vinatzer Henrik Kristoffersen X Sebastian Foss-Solevaag Loic Meillard Ramon Zenhaeusern Any Other Swiss Athlete Any Other Athlete [/hide]

Almost as bad as Taubitz ... Now we know why they didn’t go into a sport that requires some sort of coordination.

Congrats! Did it help you to find your peace?

Yes, she will certainly cry herself to sleep for the rest of her life. Not sure how much athletes like Geisenberger or Loch care about such a „gimmick“ event (anymore).

1) I don’t want them to waste taxpayer money. 2) Looking at recent big projects in Germany I wouldn’t bet anything on all the facilities being ready in time. 3) I want to have Olympic Games in big iconic cities. 4) The region is very ugly. I don’t think it would be a nice place to welcome people from all over the world.

My ranking would be: 1) Amsterdam Don‘t like any of the other options for different reasons. Not sure how serious Amsterdam is.

Which event, where they could win more than 1 gold medal, were they excluded from? They were excluded from weightlifting but I doubt that they will win more than 1 gold medal there. Also the perfect outcome for Italy would be 12 golds and for Belarus it would be 6 golds, so your predictions for those countries seem pretty optimistic and even if they make it we are still far away from 50 golds. With Italy and Belarus realistically not combining for more than 15 golds, 35 golds would have to come from Russia.

Duda before he shaved?

IOC should finally take a stand against dictatorships. Excluding Italy from the Olympics seems like the best solution.

Where the hell do you get 40-50 golds from? Combined they won 28 golds at the last Olympics. For 40 golds, Russia would probably have to win more than 25 golds and for 50 golds Russia would probably have to win more than 35 golds. 40 golds might be possible, but 50 golds would be more than surprising.

Fencing should be interesting ...

1) It isn’t done/hasn’t been done until recently because then the IOC would make less money and in addition to that it would be more difficult to give the games to disctators. Also the hosts couldn’t show off how amazing they are, so it is also partly due to the vanity of political leaders. 2) I would like an outdoor pool with temporary stands (kind of like it is done for Beachvolleyball). The 2009 swimming world championships were great and swimming should be an outdoor sport (during the summer). 3) The host would pay the hotel owners. Say we have 10000 athletes and they stay on average 7 nights in a room that usually costs 100 €, then the total amount would be 7 million €. Obviously there will be all kinds of extra costs, but I don’t see how it would amount to 50 million € or more, which still would only be around 1/10th of the costs for the Olympic village in 2012. If countries can get private investors to build an Olympic village that is turned into affordable housing after the games, then that would also be a good option. Maybe it would be an option in general to get private investors to finance (some of) the venues and after the games they can do with them whatever they want. That might lead to a more effective approach and would take pressure away from the tax payers, who then might look more favorably at their city hosting the Olympics.

It is very easy to reduce costs. Either you build less expansive venues or you reuse venues. Building less expansive venues usually means less capacities which means less ticket revenue and less chances for the local population to watch, so this isn’t really a good option. This means that the best option would be to reuse venues. In this day and age it is impossible to build a swimming stadium or a ski jumping hill and to get back the costs later by constantly hosting competitions there. This means that only cities that already have most of the venues should host the Olympics. In most cases those will be cities that hosted the games before. I also refuse to believe that the major cities I named earlier wouldn’t be able to open up 10-15k hotel beds for athletes if they know about it multiple years in advance, especially with more and more tourists choosing Airbnb over hotels. Of course this wouldn’t work for places like Sochi, which means that those places shouldn’t host the Olympics. Maybe the IOC could set a budget for all the possible hosts (say 1-2 billion dollars) or they could favor the bids with the most efficient budget, kind of how it is often done with construction projects.

Please try to state your point. Your comment is all over the place. There might be downsides to this concept, but it certainly would reduce costs, which is the main reason why less and less countries want to host the Olympics. The lack of an Olympic village is no problem in big cities, you can just use a hotel/multiple hotels or the athletes could for example live in student apartments that are usually empty during the summer anyways. In a better world countries would build a new apartment complex for the athletes and afterwards it would be used to fix homelessness in that city. I think the Olympic village, the stadium and the swimming stadium are normally the most expansive venues. You can bring down the costs of the swimming stadium by using a temporary (outdoor) pool. Every big city usually already has a large stadium for the opening ceremony/athletics and multiple indoor arenas for other sports. Maybe you will have to install a temporary track, but that still would be far less expansive than building a new stadium. You could also hold the ceremonies in the city to allow more people to watch. If it is for example too expansive to build a (temporary) venue for track cycling, then track cycling should be dropped from the Olympic program. The same is true for sledding events or ski jumping at the Winter Olympics. It would be too nice to call it insanity when countries regularly build two ski jumping hills for two weeks of competition.

Yes, modernizing venues is still normally (much) less expansive than building new venues. For example the Olympic stadium that was built for the 1936 Olympics in Berlin is still used today. The IOC would have to accept that not all the venues will look new and shiny, so this will never happen of course.

Interesting article by The Ringer: https://www.theringer.com/2021/1/22/22244941/tokyo-summer-olympics-status-thomas-bach-ioc I always thought that it might make sense to rotate the Olympics between maybe 10 to 15 cities. Summer: Moscow, Barcelona/Madrid, Rome, Paris, London, Berlin, Toronto, Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai, Los Angeles, New York, Amsterdam, Sydney Winter: Munich, Milan, Innsbruck/Salzburg, Oslo/Lillehammer, Stockholm, Helsinki, Lake Placid/Salt Lake City, Vancouver, Nagano/Sapporo, Albertville, St. Moritz/Lausanne

I don’t really follow this tournament, but this sounds like a really optimistic take. I would be surprised to see Egypt beating Denmark, France, Spain or Norway in a do-or-die match. Let’s see what will happen from here on.

Nice surprise for Germany. Not sure how much it means on a world stage. Still another interesting result for Germany this winter, after a medal in men’s snowboard slopestyle (first medal in that event in more than 10 years), a medal in women’s aerials (first medal in that event in 20 years) and 2 medals in men’s slalom by Strasser. I guess we’ll have to wait until next season to see if those results were just a fluke thanks to COVID. Sadly Germany is still trash in speed skating and cross-country.

You can’t win everything ... You had some great results in ski-/snowboardcross.

A lot of people in Silicon Valley like the idea of an universal basic income very much, so I think that Sanders becoming president wouldn’t be the worst thing in their own opinion.