Monzanator

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Kinga Rajda's 21st place in Sapporo is the best ever World Cup result for a female jumper.

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Yeah, but that has entirely nothing to do with what I reacted to   ("Unlucky Ukraine , they always shoot their planes")

You know well the people who shot down the Dutch plane had Ukrainian passports but were ethnically Russian. Obviously the Western World doesn't give a flying fuck about that anymore. Macron, Merkel & co. are too scared of Putin & the Russian cyber war influence to do anything about it.

16 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

The plane above Ukraine was not Ukrainian.

But it was Ukraine who didn't close their air space over a war zone   Ukraine & Iran are guilty of the same neglience here.

Meanwhille Corinne Suter wins her first World Cup race in Altenmarkt downhill. Nicol Delago 2nd, Michelle Gisin 3rd. Ledecka 8th.

Breezy Johnson made her comeback after 22 months off with two injuries and finished 25th.

1 hour ago, Grassmarket said:

Just catching up now and all my prophecies of DOOM for Oberhof  yesterday are being fulfilled.  There was a picture today of a rubber bath duck in one of the shooting range ponds. .  Just hope they have enough snow in a warehouse somewhere for the weekend. 

They shipped the snow from World Team Challenge in Gelsenkirchen over to Oberhof

Fourcade, Jacquelin & Kuehn on the podium.

Good day for Doherty 21st, Nordgren 26th. ( @RobtheAggie should be satisfied?).

Great day for Strolia 20th, Dombrovski 36th.

3 minutes ago, penthatlonfan said:

What s with the schoked reaction monzanator ?

I didn't realize we have two Lithuanian biathlon fans in this thread

Tomasz Sikora noticed Strolia's result and calls it the biggest shock of the race so far For obvious reasons Karol Dombrovski used to get a quick mention from time to time (and Diana Rasimovicuite when she was still racing but mainly due to her marriage to Bricis).

Boe basically lost one minute on going back to complete the loop. Still better than the 2 min penalty if he skipped it alltogether.

Don't look now but has a shot at some WC points. Vytautas Strolia only 1:50 behind Fourcade with 1 miss!

@Werloc will be satisfied

Tarjei Boe forgot to do the penalty loop and went back to do complete it

Fourcade 10/10. Eliseev 10/10.

/ Said Karimulla Khalili with bib #102. Maybe he gets some extended TV time like Porshneva yesterday

2 minutes ago, RobtheAggie said:

So when are they shooting?  5k, 7.5k?

2,5 km & 7,5 km.

There was rain in the night so they had to bring in the fresh snow. Women's morning training was cancelled today.

2 minutes ago, RobtheAggie said:

 

Glad to see that she will make it.  So is the men's sprint only 7.5 k then?

Nope, 4x 2,5km instead of 3x 3,3km

3 hours ago, RobtheAggie said:

I agree that it was a very strange race for lots of reasons.  Does the IBU need Germans to be good for money and sponsors reasons?  It seems so.

 

Dunklee for the US finally had a good day.  14th place, no idea if she will make the mass start.  

 

 

She should make it. Yurlova, Hauser and Preuss were missing from the sprint so they probably skipped the round alltogether which means Eder and Innerhofer will get a bump into Top 25 list and Dunklee will make the MS along with Lunder. Hojnisz, Zuk & Hinz. That's if I didn't confuse the qual rules

Btw, the men will race on the women's 2,5 km loop instead of the 3,3 km they'd planned.

10 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Yeah, I suppose German TV money is to biathlon what NBC money is to the Olympics so we have to go to Germany twice a year even though somewhere like Nove Mesto would nowadays get a better crowd & more modern TV friendly tracks.

Nove Mesto wasn't even a regular feature on the tour during Koukalova's heyday. It's DOA now. Likewise the French round which was non-existent for majority of Fourcade's dominance and the women's team winning a lot too. IBU is lucky enough the Russian round is off the calendar due to all the doping crap or else we wouldn't see Annecy on the schedule whatsoever.

16 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Bah!  I would put Charleroi, Belgium up against any city on the planet as the most depressing place in the world!  OK, it was never the capital of the Gulag, but the huge disused steelworks in the middle of town  and the numerous slag-heaps in suburbs give it an atmosphere all of its own.

 

Dunno why we keep going to Oberhof, really.  Weather is always terrible, there’s never any snow,  and crowds are never that great by modern standards.

Well, Arber is in Bavaria and that would rather replace Ruhpolding which won't really happen. Besides Idk how the economy works there, the alpine skiing World Cup in Zwiesel has been discontinued some time ago and it's basically in the same mountain valley where the biathlon takes place IIRC.

3 minutes ago, Kirkpatrick said:

Terrible director of TV coverage today.

 

Though, guess that fog could've made his/her job more difficult.

Well, German rounds are notoriously focused on the best athletes from top nations and ignore the minor nations until the final group when it's all usually decided. Obviously Kamila Zuk got zero coverage on the range and Hojnisz would have been the same if she had a lower bib. Hell, they barely showed Wierer as well until the last loop.

Funnily enough Porshneva got plenty of coverage in today's sprint since she was the only one in contention for a good result from that final group. She finished 29th.

Heavy fog in Oberhof today. Only 3/100 shot 10/10 - Marte Olsbu, Emma Lunder and F.Tachizaki.

Olsbu won by 33 secs. ahead of Herrmann and 47 secs. ahead of J.Simon. Wierer 4th , Eckhoff 5th, Lunder 7th which could be her PB?

Monika Hojnisz 8th, Kamila Zuk 9th so first time two get a Top 10 in the same race this season and also secure a spot in Mass Start on Sunday.

7 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I don’t disagree with this, but it’s actual journalism. It’s just opinionated writing at that point. Columnists can be journalists (and many are), but you need to have the support of facts, research, and subject knowledge to be a true columnist.

 

One of the greatest parts of social media is the availability of primary sources. However, many people use social media to spread misinformation. It’s up to real journalists to disprove the liars and cast them aside as nothing but political agents. Real journalists have a strong code and ethics and a desire to report the truth (and yes, they can be wrong occasionally, and they should admit their mistakes).

Time is money. Any news becomes old faster than anytime before these days. News spreads around like a disease on social media. No wonder paper versions of media outlets are dying. It takes too much time and money to release them. YT or IG is faster than TV news and it goes on & on. You don't have time to check the facts and do research anymore. Either leak the news now or forget about it because 1,500 people will do it for you within 2 minutes.

TV killed the radio and internet and social media will kill both paper news AND TV sooner or later. Hell, Netflix and all the streaming platforms will kill the traditional cinemas as well. I mean, whomever goes to the movies these days when you can watch the shit online? None of my friends go to the cinemas anymore

15 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

Wait, he didn't say they have nothing in common - they do. PR articles are mostly marketing - manipulation under cover of pseudo-information - journalism is just informative (or opinion if we talk about such columns - but they're always said that it's just an opinion). Ghost-writing is simply writing for somebody else's name - they give you a content, you give a language. Session musicians - they're doing most of the job for someone else. It doesn't differ much from simply being musician if you're not a composer/lyrics author. But the difference between marketing and journalism is much bigger than between playing and... playing. Or, at least, should be. But that's what the whole discussion is about - we (me and @Olympian1010) believe in true journalism, which, I'm afraid, is dying nowadays because of commercialization of the world.

It's all about opinion making & manipulation now. The number of columnists go up & up. They're role is not to inform the society but manipulate them into their own vision of the world.

The information part of journalism has devalued faster than triple-double in NBA. People don't have to wait for the evening news on TV to find out what's going on. The rise of internet has ripped that sucker to the bone. Everyone with a social media account can become an "aspiring" journalist today.

13 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

PR isn’t actual journalism, it’s close, but it’s not journalism. People who work in PR are generally a student of communications or psychology.

Ghost-writers are still writers, session musicians and roadies are still musicians despite someone else taking the name credit. Let's don't pretend communications & journalism have nothing in common

27 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Journalists, because we do not in fact aim to control everyone  

Then why every god damn political department or office needs a "public relations" branch? One can argue some politicians are just prisoners of their own PR advice. It's the neck that makes the head turn. I wonder how many of these PR bozos graduated from "journalism & communications"?