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https://sporza.be/nl/2018/09/24/wk-volleybal-loting-final-6-reukje/ This draw ... FIVB even worse then FIFA. What a shame!!!

PREDICTION DESIGN - START COPYING HERE ---> [hide] Third Round September 26th - September 28th, 2018 6 Nations, 2 Groups, the 1st and 2nd Nations from each Group will qualify for Semifinals Group I Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 26th 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 1 3 Russia September 27th 2018, h. 17:00 United States 1 3 Russia September 28th 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 1 3 United States Group J Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 26th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 2 Serbia September 27th 2018, h. 20:30 Poland 3 2 Serbia September 28th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 2 Poland [/hide] ---> PREDICTION DESIGN - STOP COPYING HERE

For the Dutch the outcome of the tournament is a little disappointing. With 5 wins in 8 matches they finish lower (9th) than Belgium (7th with 4 wins in 8 matches). Again: the formula of this tournament is ridiculous. It can be determinative for the Olympic qualification, because will probably miss a few points to participate in one of the Olympic tournaments.

Netherlands beat Finland 3:1. Good job! Now we "only" have to win against tomorrow and we will qualify for the Final Six

qualified for the Olympics ... WOW!!! Very happy with this result!

And Jur Vrieling again with 13 penalties ... Bye bye for the medals. Hopefully we can still make the top 6.

PREDICTION DESIGN - START COPYING HERE ---> [hide] Second Round September 21st - September 23rd, 2018 16 Nations, 4 Groups, the 1st Nation from each Group and 2 best 2nd placed Nations between all Groups will qualify for the Third Round Group E Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 Netherlands 0 3 Russia September 21st 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 0 Finland September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Netherlands 3 2 Finland September 22nd 2018, h. 21:15 Russia 2 3 Italy September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 Russia 3 1 Finland September 23rd 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 0 Netherlands Group F Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 Brazil 3 0 Australia September 21st 2018, h. 20:30 Belgium 3 0 Slovenia September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Australia 0 3 Belgium September 22nd 2018, h. 20:30 Slovenia 1 3 Brazil September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 Slovenia 3 1 Australia September 23rd 2018, h. 20:30 Belgium 1 3 Brazil Group G Date & Time (GMT +3) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 United States 3 1 Canada September 21st 2018, h. 20:40 Bulgaria 3 1 Iran September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Iran 1 3 Canada September 22nd 2018, h. 20:40 Bulgaria 1 3 United States September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 United States 3 2 Iran September 23rd 2018, h. 20:40 Bulgaria 1 3 Canada Group H Date & Time (GMT +3) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 21st 2018, h. 17:00 Serbia 2 3 France September 21st 2018, h. 20:40 Poland 3 0 Argentina September 22nd 2018, h. 17:00 Serbia 3 0 Argentina September 22nd 2018, h. 20:40 Poland 3 2 France September 23rd 2018, h. 17:00 France 3 0 Argentina September 23rd 2018, h. 20:40 Poland 3 2 Serbia [/hide] ---> PREDICTION DESIGN - STOP COPYING HERE

The Dutch players also didn't knew that all results were carried to the next round. Our press secretary of our federation didn't knew it either. In Dutch media we now have 5 points, Russia 4, Finland 1 and Italy 9. They apparently still don't know. (FIVB XXXXXXXX)

But why not for A4 and D4. A4 moves to Bulgaria now, and D4 to Italy.

France wins against Canada. So Netherlands will play against Italy, Finland and Russia/Serbia. Hell of a job! Brazil is the lucky one of pool B in the end ... a second round against Slovenia, Belgium and Australia. Why the hell are A2 and A3 in the same pool and D2/D3 as well?

Oh yes, you're right. Hopefully France will win the match against Canada. Besides that, they need to. Otherwise they take no wins to the second round.

No, only the points against the teams that go through to the next round. Argentina will start the second round with 1 win, 2 losses and 2 points.

Netherlands with very bad luck. Looks like they finish third in poule B, which means Poland, Russia and Argentina in the next round. No chance for us against all those three opponents.

Well, I was wrong yesterday. I truly never believed that Netherlands could win against France. I feel sorry for Egypt, they play nice volleybal and would have chances to go through when they wouldn't have played in this insane group B. In the Netherlands they say that only the results against Brazil, France and Canada will count in the second round. When they finish second in the second round, then all results will count to determine the best numbers two.

Don't worry. Our team is so incredibly weak most of the time, Egypt will still have a good chance. Today Netherlands was up 10-3 and 23-21 and still they didn't manage to win the first set. Now they lose 3-0, so Egypt "only" has to win 3-0 ...

Netherlands needs 1 more set in the last two matches to go through. Will be a relief when they win that set tonight against France (won't be easy).

Thanks! How to compare teams with each other in the second round when all the teams played against other opponents?

Netherlands had 2 third places, 2 fourth places, 2 fifth places, 2 seventh places and 1 eight place in their 9 Olympic boats. A decent result, but we expected more medals. Especially the M8+ (seventh) and M4- (fourth) performed disappointing.

Teams going to the second round take ALL their points from the first round or just the points won against the other 'secondroundteams'? However, this system is ridiculous. But it's the FIVB ...

Dutch boats performed pretty good. 4 teams (Olympic boats) directly to the semis, only the M4x to the repechages. Tomorrow 4 other chances (W8, M8, W2x, W4-)!

[hide] First Round September 9th - September 18th, 2018 24 Nations, 4 Groups, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Nations from each Group will qualify for the Second Round Group A Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 9th 2018, h. 19:30 Italy 3 1 Japan September 12th 2018, h. 17:00 Dominican Republic 0 3 Slovenia September 12th 2018, h. 20:30 Belgium 3 2 Argentina September 13th 2018, h. 17:00 Dominican Republic 1 3 Japan September 13th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 1 Belgium September 14th 2018, h. 17:00 Japan 1 3 Slovenia September 14th 2018, h. 20:30 Argentina 3 0 Dominican Republic September 15th 2018, h. 17:00 Belgium 2 3 Slovenia September 15th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 2 Argentina September 16th 2018, h. 17:00 Japan 2 3 Belgium September 16th 2018, h. 21:15 Dominican Republic 0 3 Italy September 17th 2018, h. 17:00 Belgium 3 0 Dominican Republic September 17th 2018, h. 20:30 Argentina 3 2 Slovenia September 18th 2018, h. 17:00 Japan 2 3 Argentina September 18th 2018, h. 21:15 Italy 3 1 Slovenia Group B Date & Time (GMT +3) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 12th 2018, h. 14:00 France 3 1 China September 12th 2018, h. 17:00 Netherlands 1 3 Canada September 12th 2018, h. 20:30 Brazil 3 0 Egypt September 13th 2018, h. 17:00 Egypt 0 3 Canada September 13th 2018, h. 20:30 Brazil 2 3 France September 14th 2018, h. 17:00 China 3 2 Netherlands September 14th 2018, h. 20:30 France 3 0 Egypt September 15th 2018, h. 17:00 Canada 3 0 China September 15th 2018, h. 20:30 Netherlands 1 3 Brazil September 16th 2018, h. 17:00 China 3 2 Egypt September 16th 2018, h. 20:30 Netherlands 3 2 France September 17th 2018, h. 17:00 Egypt 2 3 Netherlands September 17th 2018, h. 20:30 Brazil 3 1 Canada September 18th 2018, h. 17:00 China 0 3 Brazil September 18th 2018, h. 20:30 Canada 3 2 France Group C Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 12th 2018, h. 14:00 Cameroon 1 3 Tunisia September 12th 2018, h. 17:00 Australia 1 3 Russia September 12th 2018, h. 20:30 United States 3 1 Serbia September 13th 2018, h. 17:00 Australia 1 3 United States September 13th 2018, h. 20:30 Cameroon 0 3 Serbia September 14th 2018, h. 17:00 Australia 3 0 Cameroon September 14th 2018, h. 20:30 Russia 3 0 Tunisia September 15th 2018, h. 17:00 Serbia 3 0 Tunisia September 15th 2018, h. 20:30 United States 2 3 Russia September 16th 2018, h. 17:00 Cameroon 0 3 United States September 16th 2018, h. 20:30 Serbia 3 1 Australia September 17th 2018, h. 17:00 Russia 3 0 Cameroon September 17th 2018, h. 20:30 Australia 3 0 Tunisia September 18th 2018, h. 17:00 United States 3 0 Tunisia September 18th 2018, h. 20:30 Serbia 0 3 Russia Group D Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 September 9th 2018, h. 20:30 Bulgaria 3 1 Finland September 12th 2018, h. 17:00 Iran 3 1 Puerto Rico September 12th 2018, h. 20:30 Cuba 1 3 Poland September 13th 2018, h. 17:00 Puerto Rico 0 3 Poland September 13th 2018, h. 20:30 Iran 2 3 Bulgaria September 14th 2018, h. 17:00 Finland 3 0 Cuba September 14th 2018, h. 20:30 Bulgaria 3 0 Puerto Rico September 15th 2018, h. 17:00 Cuba 0 3 Iran September 15th 2018, h. 20:30 Poland 3 1 Finland September 16th 2018, h. 17:00 Puerto Rico 1 3 Finland September 16th 2018, h. 20:30 Cuba 0 3 Bulgaria September 17th 2018, h. 17:00 Cuba 3 1 Puerto Rico September 17th 2018, h. 20:30 Iran 2 3 Poland September 18th 2018, h. 17:00 Finland 3 2 Iran September 18th 2018, h. 20:30 Bulgaria 2 3 Poland [/hide]

http://www.volleybalkrant.nl/nieuwsbericht/15992/gepubliceerde-kwalificatieproces-tokio-2020-onjuist

And furthermore: in my opinion Turkey has a great chance to host the qualifier, because their coach Guidetti is in the technical commission that advices (or even decides) how the qualification process goes and where the qualification tournaments will be played.

It would reduce the chances of The Netherlands as well, because Serbia and Russia are the highest European teams (and after the WCH these two countries will be still the best two, because they both participated in the 2015 World Cup and gained a lot of points). FIVB is stupid!!!

In Dutch media today there was an article about the qualification process. FIVB still not decided what to do. It seems there is an alternative qualification process in which 6 teams will qualify in the first Olympic Qualification tournament (12 teams) and 5 through continental Championships.