[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Federer91 2,793]

22 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Everything that's electronic can be hacked, so I'm honestly glad we don't use any machines here  

 

Interesting, this is the same reason used here from the parties, but in the opposite direction.  If it is paper voting, there is big chances of fraud, stuffing ballots, other ballots being thrown away etc., while machine voting is seen, as very hard to rig, faster to count and less prone to human error, whether intentional or not. 

 

We have now largely transitioned into the machine voting in the last 2 years and this will also be the case in our next (yet again) Parliament elections in 2 weeks time. Paper voting will be held only in sections with less than 300 people on the lists, in hospitals, elderly or other caring homes, moving voting station for disable or old people and ships at seas. Or in case a machine breaks, which a few always do in every elections so far. 

[Swewi 381]

Swedish PM resigns (as she also Did the same day she was elected 9 months Ago before she immediately came back).

 The parties on the right side Will have 176-173 in the parliament. Nothing is sure though. If the second largest party SD would demand to be part of the governemtn and not only support them, we can be sure that the others and in participating the liberals Will not accept

[Grassmarket 3,403]

1 hour ago, Swewi said:

Swedish PM resigns (as she also Did the same day she was elected 9 months Ago before she immediately came back).

 The parties on the right side Will have 176-173 in the parliament. Nothing is sure though. If the second largest party SD would demand to be part of the governemtn and not only support them, we can be sure that the others and in participating the liberals Will not accept

Thus proving the SDs point that there is no difference between any of the establishment parties. They always unite against the voters to protect their own privileged position, even when they don’t win.

[Griff88 1,952]

On 7/16/2022 at 3:33 PM, Griff88 said:

In an attempt to further "control" the internet, Indonesian government are forcing digital service providers to register on government database (and give government even more rights to order removal of any contents they don't like) and threaten to block basically everything on the Internet if they didn't comply 20 July.

 

The definition of "digital service providers" in this messed-up regulation is a person/entity who owns a system that includes payment/transaction or process personal information. Millions of websites obviously fall in this category and basically the government is demanding the whole net to register. So if @Sindodoesn't register to the Information Ministry by 20 July, this forum will be blocked in Indonesia

 

Of course this is clearly a scare tactic in hopes of extorting tax from foreign tech giants and has always been proposed by the stupid minister for the last 2 years, but this is the first time they actually set a deadline. Interesting to see what will happen in 4 days

 

So far only two popular international services have registered: Tiktok and Spotify.

Fast forward 2 months, after initial block with Paypal and some game marketplaces nothing significant happened since then...

 

What happened is the announcement of fuel price rise and everyone is occupied enough with that, so the Information Ministry is saved from relentless online abuse and they can plan the next shady things... Happy ending.

 

Well not really

 

Recently the government is having a headache due to the discovery of personal data in government database for sale in the dark web. Moreover a person called Bjorka recently leaked various Indonesian top politicians data (including the Minister of Information) and some people were having fun sending messages to the politicians. The Minister of Information later stopped using his number, prompting more ridicule from the people.

 

Now police is searching for this Bjorka guy.. They just mistakenly arrested a man selling drinks at a market (who don't even have a computer). And Bjorka having more and more cult-like followers on Telegram.

 

This is like having a cheap rip-off of DeathNote's Kira cult in your own country (but nobody died from heart attack)

[lapaj 379]

"Hungary is no longer a full democracy"!

 

 

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/15/hungary-is-no-longer-a-full-democracy-but-an-electoral-autocracy-meps-declare-in-new-repor

 

 

 

 

[Vic Liu 1,682]

13 hours ago, lapaj said:

"Hungary is no longer a full democracy"!

 

 

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/15/hungary-is-no-longer-a-full-democracy-but-an-electoral-autocracy-meps-declare-in-new-repor

 

 

 

 

Apparently majority of Hungarians are brainwashed and controlled by dictator Orban and it needs democratic revolution and bombs and sacrifice brought by the NATO.

[Vektor 3,326]

The issue is first and foremost with the media, which is incredibly one-sided. The power that Orbán has in his hands to control the narrative in Hungary is simply ridiculous and it shouldn't have been allowed to happen inside the European Union, but here we are. The EU should have implemented some very strict rules on state controlled media in their member states, so we couldn't end up in a situation where opposition politicians are not even allowed to speak on national television. State controlled media should represent and be for every citizen, it should be neutral, not right-wing or liberal, but here in Hungary it only represents Orbán, Fidesz and the conservative worldview. 

 

But the damage has already been done, there's no going back. The EU is waaaay too late to correct their mistakes. Orbán is here to stay for a very long time and I can't even say that we are undemocratic. Hungarian people have decided that they want to live under Orbán, they like his way of thinking, his worldview, his narratives about decaying Western world. This is where we are now, this is what Hungarian society can reach on their current level of development and the EU can't do anything about it other than hope that Hungary will choose a different path once Orbán is gone after a couple of more decades. 

[dcro 10,210]

Kyrgyz-Tajik war is over after one afternoon.

[Grassmarket 3,403]

2 minutes ago, dcro said:

Kyrgyz-Tajik war is over after one afternoon.

Record to beat is the 40 minute  - Sultanate of Zanzibar* War of 27 August 1896.  
 

* Zanzibar is now part of , but at the time belonged to Oman.

[Dragon 1,844]

7 minutes ago, dcro said:

Kyrgyz-Tajik war is over after one afternoon.

You know about the British-Zanzibar war of 1896?

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