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    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    4 horas atrás, OlympicsFan disse:

    1) We should wait for the final decision, before we criticize.

    2) Like i said before: Are you sure that Hernandez is superior to Biles at this point? Did you even watch the nationals? She was clearly overscored there, especially on uneven bars.

    3) Its funny that you call it a political decision, because many american fans also called it a political decsion that Felix will run womens 4x100m relay instead of Prandini. There is no doubt that Felix and Douglas are much more popular than Prandini and Hernandez, but i doubt that the coaches really would allow some officials to tell them which one of those athletes to nominate. In my opinion Felix and Douglas (apparently) got nominated, because they have much more experience at this level and are able to perform when it matters. Hernandez and Prandini didnt show anything at the global stage so far.

     

    For Germany only Scheder and Seitz will do a complete all-around, which is quite surprising, because Schäfer was the best german athlete in the all-around recently, apparently her uneven bars routine was weaker than that of all the other german athletes.

    Alt will compete on every apparatus except for Floor, Bui will only do floor and uneven bars. I hope that we will be the best nation on uneven bars, surprisingly our second best apparatus should be balance beam. On vault we should be among the 8 best teams, even without Berger and Chusovitina. On floor we are extremely weak (like always) and probably wont be among the 10 best teams.

     

    No one can beat Biles. I never said that. I said that Hernandez is the best gymnast behind Biles. All the other girls are fighting for silver and bronze. Funny thing is, Douglas and Raisman can seriously screw up and walk away without a medal in the all-around competition. I still think that the US gymnasts will finish 1-2 no matter what, but Hernandez is the second best here despite what political maneuvers they are trying to achieve.

     

    Germany has made an Interesting choice when selecting Scheder and Seitz to compete in the all-around. They score so high on the uneven bars that it should compensate for the score they get on floor. Schafer should really concentrate on beam, which is her best chance of a final.

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    8 horas atrás, heywoodu disse:

    Celine van Gerner has an achilles heel injury and is having quite a lot of pain of it. 

     

    Oh, no. She deserves to have a great competition after so much bad luck over the years. Fingers crossed and I hope she can still perform clean routines.

    Also, Hernandez will apparently not perform in the all-around, which is clearly a political decision so Douglas can get attention in the final (after all, she's the defending champion, though she will not come close to the gold medal this time) or even Raisman gets a redemption story (she placed fourth in 2012). Either way, Hernandez is the superior gymnast at this point, only behind Biles, and it's really disgusting that the US will aim for drama with Douglas or Raisman, instead of worthy performances by Hernandez.

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    Posted · Edited by thiago_simoes

    This blog states that Russia has broken the rules by replacing Ignatyev by the alternate gymnast. Even though the author says it does not really matter at this point, if Russia miraculously wins a medal, all hell will break loose and the team will probably face many attempts of other teams trying to disqualify Russia after the competition is over.

     

    This is getting ridiculous.

     

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    Posted · Edited by thiago_simoes

    10 minutos atrás, dcro disse:

     

    I'm not sure, but I think I've read somewhere that in team finals only 3 gymnasts from each team will compete and all scores will have to count. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

     

    @LowerSaxony is correct. In qualifications, it doesn't matter if three or four gymnasts perform on each apparatus. Even if only three gymnasts perform on a single apparatus, this is still valid for the team score. 

     

    So, basically we have:

    Qualifications: up to four gymnasts can perform on each apparatus, but only the three best scores count.
    Team finals: only three gymnasts can perform on each apparatus and every score counts.

     

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    Em 8/2/2016 at 15:35, heywoodu disse:

    I'm also curious what our gymnastics expert @thiago_simoes thinks about this :p 


    I'm not sure, but I think it doesn't make much of a difference. Russia's ambitions in the men's team event should be aiming for a bronze medal. Gold and silver are set for Japan and China, while Great Britain and the United States are more likely to fight for the bronze medal, with Ukraine as a dark horse. Right now, I think Russia is even behind the dark horse level.

    Brazil National Thread

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    11 horas atrás, vinipereira disse:
      Gold Silver Bronze Total
    Associated Press 11 7 11 29
    Gracenote* 8 9 3 20
    Sports Illustrated 6 4 10 20
      8.3 6.7 8 23

     

    I'm doing a little compilation of the medals predictions for Brazil so far. The AP prediction is by far the most optimistic at 29 medals, and Gracenote (I believe they'll still update their table) and Sports Illustrated are a tid pessimistic in totals. I believe we should end with something between these numbers, like 23-26 medals. Less than 23 would be disappointing, more than 26 would be great. There's also a BBC projection that doesn't talk about numbers, but give us 20 strong possibilities of medals - so that's one more to the "20 medals" group. All things considered, Sports Illustrated seems the most realistic of them.

     

     

    Nice work!

    I still think we'll end up winning 27 medals or more. It will depend on a lot of factors, but it's definitely possible. I'm a lot more curious, however, about the number of gold medals the Brazilian athletes will earn. Anything less than 3 gold medals would be a total disaster, but I'm not too confident we will reach 6 gold medals or more. This is just too much for the level our athletes are displaying right now. 

    Brazil National Thread

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    2 horas atrás, LDOG disse:

    fico surpreendido

     

    is she particularly popular in Brazil?

     

    It's hard to explain. It's not like everybody knows what Modern Pentathlon is, but she's generally well-known and people like her because she's usually graceful and lovely in interviews, and has lots of charisma. She's from the Northeastern part of Brazil, and this region is the poorest area of the country. People from the Northeastern zone see her as a role model, and there was a strong voting campaign there to let her win. I'm very pleased she won. I was rooting for her. 

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    Posted · Edited by thiago_simoes

    10 horas atrás, zob79 disse:

     

    The fact I'm Romanian does mean that I have access to lots of competitions, papers, TV news and inner gossip that you don't have a clue about :cool:

     

    And what can you do with this information other than coming here and stating that you know more than everybody? I'm looking for facts, and then maybe I could agree with you. After what I've SEEN, though, Ponor is the only female gymnast in Romania who could go to the Olympics without embarrassing herself and her country. 

     

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    Posted · Edited by thiago_simoes

    Em 7/28/2016 at 14:16, zob79 disse:

     

    OK :) Being Romanian, I probably know the Romanian gymnasts far less than you do... 

     

    I follow this sport quite closely for a number of years. One must only look at the videos from the Romanian nationals and the difference between Iordache and Ponor is clear. Iordache is not steady and has not taken part in any other competition in 2016 besides the Romanian nationals. She is not ready to compete. I wish Romania had other choices besides Ponor and Iordache, but Holbura, the third best gymnast at this point who is not injured, was not able to win a gold medal in an event with junior gymnasts, the Gymnasiade. What could she do at the Olympics? Not much, I guess.

    And the fact that you are Romanian does not mean anything about how much you know about Iordache. I'm Brazilian, but don't ask me about football. I know nothing about this sport. 

     

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    2 horas atrás, zob79 disse:

     

    That was the opinion of Romanian Gymnastics Federation officials; personally I rate Iordache better, even in these circumstances, and I think she had chances to win a medal (probably in AA). Ponor won't get any medal, you'll see

     

    Iordache had no chance of getting a medal. Ponor will not get one either, but at least she will probably make it to the balance beam and floor finals. 

    Artistic Gymnastics 2016 Discussion Thread

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    Em 01/06/2016 at 16:33, Agger disse:

    Yay. Marie Skammelsen is the first danish junior in more than 20 years to qualify for an all-round final at the European Championships. She also qualified for the final in vault. Another sport with hopes for the future! :cheer:

     

    In 1998 a Danish athlete earned gold at the Junior Europeans. I can't remember his name, though.

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    12 minutos atrás, vinipereira disse:

     

    Daniel Purvis out, didn't expect this.

     

    It almost looks like they decided to select only English gymnasts, and Purvis is Scottish, so he had to stay out. Seriously, though, I can't see Brinn contributing to this team as much as Purvis could. Weird (and possibly political) decision.

    The women's team is definitely not my favorite team, but I will not comment any further. 

    Brazil National Thread

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    There may be a surprising medal in women's artistic gymnastics (Flávia Saraiva on the balance beam, or maybe Rebeca Andrade in the individual all-around), and also in modern pentathlon (Yane Marques).

    I'm not getting my hopes up, though.

    Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2016

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    Posted · Edited by thiago_simoes

    Em 6/30/2016 at 12:23, intoronto disse:

     

    Final two are:
    Shallon Olsen

    Rose-Kaying Woo

     

    Men:

    Scott Morgan


    @thiago_simoes your thoughts on this team?

     

    This is the best possible team for Canada and a shoe-in for a top 6 placement. On paper, only Russia, China, Japan, Great Britain and the USA are ahead of Canada now. Brazil and Germany are roughly on the same level, I think. It will be interesting to see if Italy, the Netherlands, France and Belgium can challenge for the top 8. Maybe the Netherlands can make it ahead of Germany, but I doubt Italy, France and Belgium can make much of an impact at this point.

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