Noorderling29

We have one of the best opposite’s in the men’s game, but he is surrounded by an average team, while we have a decent women’s team, but no good opposite.

1 hour ago, CCB said:

Well, no surprise with this bad weather. So this awful week for Dutch sports continues. No Olympic quota for us, because they won't run another race. Not qualified, however they run the exact same time as TTO, but on a later moment. Still very confused about that rule.

Are you sure? According to @Topatletieklive, the Dutch team are currently in 16th place, thousands ahead of number 17.

Dutch media today reports that former Olympic and Worldchampion Anna vd Breggen will return in the peloton next season. She ended her career in 2021. She will ride for SD Worx.

FWIW, Gracenote predicts 18 gold, 36 medals for the Dutch team.

‘It’s not impossible”

8 hours ago, Noorderling29 said:

Looking at the program, the only Dutch medal chance seems to be the women’s time trial, with Vollering and Van Dijk. 

I meant, on the first day, but posted it in the wrong thread. In total it’s not impossible we will beat both the medal record (36) as the gold record (12). 

Looking at the program, the only Dutch medal chance seems to be the women’s time trial, with Vollering and Van Dijk. 

Twice this year, in Glasgow and Rome, Bol was handed the baton in first place and she did just enough to win.In Rome she ran a for her slow time in the women’s 4 x 4, a second slower than she ran in mixed relay and she ran to win the indoor 400 metres title. She wasn’t even the fastest Dutch runner, as Lisanne De Witte was a little bit faster. 

1 hour ago, RussB said:

The issue with this strategy IRL have is Rhasidat will not be getting the baton in the lead in Paris if they put her on anchor (would be my strong gut feeling), unlike Bol in Budapest at the European level who could moderate things easily from the front. The Olympics will be a step up and IRL position near the front depends on her running the second leg.

Bol started in the lead in the final, in the heats she was never in the lead and finished third, after battling Kaczmarek

16 minutes ago, RussB said:

The big issue with the mixed relay is twofold:

 (i) it is held at the start of the programme before the individuals, and the final is the day after the heat.

(ii) you can only make 1 substitution for the final.

 

its almost impossible to predict what teams can make the final with resting at least 1 of their best 4, too much uncertainty over the lineups of the other nations. Medals are up for grabs for those that want to claim them at the expense of having a fully rested headliners in the individual side (particularly hurtful on the men’s side which starts a day after the mixed final, the women have 1 more day of rest). 
 

All competing nations I expect to rest their number 1 given the schedule in the heat (especially if that’s on the male side) but beyond that it gets really confusing. It wouldn’t surprise me if the GB team looks something like: Carvell Yeargin, La. Nielsen and Harries with Dobson possibly brought into the final if they genuinely think the team can get into the medal mix. Leaving Matt and Amber off the relay completely. 

In Budapest the Dutch team ran Bol in the mixed relay heats, but with her doing just enough to qualify for the finals. Klaver did run at full capacity. We rested our old warrior Liemarvin Bonevacia. Ireland could run Rhasidat in the anker leg, following the Bol strategy. 

The Dutch Volleybal Federation is going plead the case of sending a team anyway with our Olympic Committee. Seems to me they should have done that before entering a team in this competition. The OC tends to be very strict, so hard to see they are going to make an exception this time. 

It seems to me it would be far better to not qualify and take some time to rest and let the injuries heal.

First all, none of the things you mention were in our control.

Secondly, I watched the match on replay, so without the emotion of watching it live. My main conclusion was that we won from the bench.Kozlowski was able to bring in three new players at the end of the first set, even though the result did not even necessitate it at that moment. Also he brought in our best player Daalderop for the final few points; because of her injury she had not played a single point in the entire VNL. Also, Canada made far too many mistakes, especially in the send set.

Would Canada have won in a different format? Who knows: Canada won the two matches last year, but these matches were very close, with both teams dominating stretches of the match. Also, a significant number of our players are still young and inexperienced and have developed from last year.

2 hours ago, Jinzha said:

Agreed! This must be a hard match to watch on the losing side. Especially after such a long and close qualification race.

 

It's never over till it's over, but in this form we really should be taking at least a set versus . I never expected our volleyball team would get this far this Olympic cycle!

Indeed, after the very poor World Championships in 2022, and the retirement of several players. Paris would be a good experience, the nucleus of the team is young enough to continue until at least 2028. Probably see Knip, Plak, Buijs and Dijkema retire after Paris. Jasper, Timmerman and Bongaerts would be 32 in 2028,  so may not make that tournament 

If you’ve got a lane, you’ve got a chance

5 minutes ago, mattadders said:

Hold on folks. I’ve just made some corrections to my calculations. And I can confirm. The media are right. It’s not official. If Canada sweep France, then somehow South Korea sweep the Netherlands, Canada would win the quota by 0.27 points. 

IIRC, the Dutch team needs to win just one set?

2 minutes ago, mattadders said:

By my math is official. But the commentators and the Dutch team are acting like it’s not confirmed. 

Yes, both the Dutch TV reporter and our Teletekst service say the team is almost qualified. 

Happy to see that in the end, the quotum will most likely be decided by the result of this match and not by which opponents played at full strength and which did not. Would not be totally surprised if we were to give it away in our last match against SK.

Not his type of competition, the profile does not suit him. He’s not a one day specialist, like for instance Van der Poel, but a climber who wins multiple day events, with some stages in the mountains. The Danes have other riders that have much more chance in the road race.

Also, he has been injured after a severe fall.

Agree with Haywood’s.Klaver has not had a good race in the outdoor season. But was our best runner at the Indoor Worlds in Glasgow. Bol has learned from the mixed Relay in Budapest to not go out to fast when it’s not necessary.

2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Femke Bol tried her best to make the race exciting but then switched from easy jogging to running in the last 12 meters or so  

Strange that De Witte, on paper our slowest runner, ran the fastest of the 4. Both Peeters and De Witte (in the heats) faster than in Budapest, Bol and Klaver (who ran in 2nd ) slower.
 

3 hours ago, JoshMartini007 said:

likely needs to beat 3-1 to overtake them. 3-2 is still possible, but we will need to win by better scores than the Netherlands in our other two games.

We’re more or less back to we’re we were at the start of the VNL. That’s better for us than for Canada. We have it in our own hands, but will most likely throw it away.

8 hours ago, Noorderling29 said:

Dutch protest. Wait and see. No Dutch team in the final means that it’s certain our 4 x 4 will not be able to defend in Paris its silver medal from 2021.

Protest denied, so no Dutch male 4 x 4 in Paris.

48 minutes ago, FireRun said:

British guy just blocked both the Italian and the Dutch

Dutch protest. Wait and see. No Dutch team in the final means that it’s certain our 4 x 4 will not be able to defend in Paris its silver medal from 2021.

There is no Euro result, as there is no European polity. There are 27 national results, with most people voting for national reasons. Some countries even held simultaneous national elections.

The extreme right did well in some countries, like France, but not so well in others, like Hungary and Poland. All in all, the far Right is up a little, but the parliament is still firmly in control of Christian and Social Democrats and Liberals. Unlike in my country, the far right did not take over the levers of control.