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How many more U19 euros do we have to win in women's handball before we finally have a senior team that's worth something? Watch us win the 3rd U17 Euros in a row as well at home, because apparently that's what we do in women's handball, win all the youth competitions and then suffer on the senior level.

I haven't been up to date with athletics, so seeing Fajdek struggling this much is strange. He's nowhere near the Olympic ES.

That wasn't great, but at least we won. The girls will have to play much, MUCH better against Spain in the QF.

On the flip side, you just have to beat the US in the semi and we can get all the 5 top European teams in Paris. Sounds easy enough.

And if you are wondering why I am already so defeated before we even played a single match, this is our head-to-head statistic against Spain in women's water polo at the main tournaments (SOG, Worlds, Euros): 2022 Euros v 15-11 2021 Olympics v 8-6 2020 Euros v 11-10 2019 Worlds v 16-10 2018 Euros v 12-6 2018 Euros v 13-9 2016 Olympics v 11-10 2014 Euros v 9-8 2013 Worlds v 13-12 2012 Olympics v 10-9 2012 Olympics v 13-11 2012 Euros v 11-9 I can't get my hopes up anymore.

These are the expected QFs now: v v v v The US and Spain are the heavy favorites for the quotas, with a slight chance that the Netherlands upsets the US in the semi or Hungary upsets Spain in the quarters, but I wouldn't bet money on either of those to happen, women's water polo is very predictable.

wins against and that's likely a huge step for Spain to win the quota as they will now avoid the US until the final... I guess we will lose against Spain once again in the QF, as is our fate in these tournaments... @CCB as you have said, the Dutch girls have figured out a way to beat Spain, and their reward will be a harder path to the quota here.

Rasovszky Kristóf az 1500m mellé a 10km-en is indulási jogot szerzett. MAGYARORSZÁG (HUN) 16 sportoló 5 női sportoló 11 férfi sportoló 17 versenyszám 5 sportág 10 Úszás 50 GY 100 GY 200 GY 400 GY 800 GY 1500 GY 100 HÁ 200 HÁ 100 ME 200 ME 100 PI 200 PI 200 VE 400 VE váltó 10 km női 2 X X X férfi 8 X X X X X X X X X X X vegyes 2 Ökölvívás 50kg 54kg 57kg 60kg 66kg 75kg női 1 x 51kg 57kg 63.5kg 71kg 80kg 90kg +90kg férfi 1 x 2 Öttusa egyéni női 1 x férfi 1 x 1 Sportlövészet Lég pisztoly Lég puska Sport puska Sport pisztoly Trap Skeet női férfi 1 x vegyes 1 Atlétika 100 200 400 800 1500 5000 10000 110/ 100H 400 H 3000 SC combined HJ PV LJ TJ SP DT HT JT race walk marathon relay women 1 x men mixed

So no new athlete quotas as all three swimmers already qualified in the pool.

First ever WCh medal for Raso in the 10k, two years after his Olympic silver. We really needed this considering our situation in the pool.

I would rather cut 1500m from the program than open water if the redundancy becomes too big. At least open water requires different tactics. And long distance pool swimmers were perfectly fine with only 400+1500 and 400+800 until IOC decided that men and women should have the same events, so having only 400+800 for both genders should be fine as well.

Yeah, the Hungarian preview for the men's 10k pretty much says that Rasovszky and Betlehem can just focus on the racing before Paris, they are already secured thanks to their easy qualification in 1500m. The open water qualification will be way less stressful for those who compete in the pool.

For some reason I couldn't find an official list of Hungarian swimmers per event, so I had to make one for myself. We got 9 athletes who already have at least one OQT (+1 who's missing, Milák), the bold font indicates the already obtained OQTs. Hopefully there will be a few more OQTs here, Kapás for example should finally qualify to Paris. Szebasztián Szabó - 50 Free, 100 Free, 50 Fly Nándor Németh - 100 Free, 200 Free Richárd Márton - 200 Free, 100 Fly, 200 Fly Kristóf Rasovszky - 400 Free, 800 Free, 1500 Free Dávid Bethlehem - 800 Free, 1500 Free Áron Székely - 50 Back Benedek Kovács - 100 Back, 200 Back Hubert Kós - 100 Back, 200 Back, 100 Fly, 200 Medley Ádám Telegdy - 200 Medley, 400 Medley Balázs Holló - 400 Medley Petra Senánszky - 50 Free, 100 Free Nikolett Pádár - 200 Free Ajna Késely - 200 Free, 400 Free, 800 Free Bettina Fábián - 400 Free, 800 Free Viktória Mihályvári-Farkas - 1500 Free, 400 Medley Nora Flück - 1500 Free Lora Fanni Komoroczy - 50 Back Dóra Molnár - 100 Back Eszter Szabó-Feltóthy - 200 Back Katalin Burián - 200 Back Zsuzsanna Jakabos - 100 Fly, 200 Fly, 400 Medley Boglárka Kapás - 200 Fly Dalma Sebestyén - 200 Medley Yeah, our women's team with only two Paris qualifications so far... Hopefully we will look better after these Worlds.

Lol, similar to how I hope that at least one Hungarian will join Kozák at the Gyulai Memorial. Halász has to go over 78.20m in hammer before the Worlds to gain some confidence, hopefully that will happen in a few days in Székesfehérvár.

The 12th place is a bit of disappointment from Olasz, but the 9th place is great from Fábián at the age of 18. We are looking good for the two quotas here if everything goes well in Doha. Thankfully the future of Hungarian open water swimming is looking bright with Bettina Fábián and Dávid Betlehem.

Wait, I thought that athletes with 800m and 1500m OQTs can compete in the 10k? This is what the qualification document says: "In addition to the process above, any Federation with qualified pool athletes who have achieved an Olympic Qualification Time (OQT) in either the 800-meter or 1500-meter freestyle (for both genders) may enter those athletes into the Marathon Swimming Event provided such entries will comply with Federation team limits where no more than two athletes of the same gender per Federation."

I wonder how many of the swimmers here already have quotas. Both of our swimmers in the men's 10k already qualified in men's 1500m.

Out of these I only expected significantly more from Késely and maybe Zombori. Kesély seemed like one of those very level-headed, determined athletes who will produce great senior results, I didn't expect to see her recent struggles at all. The jury is still out on Mihályvári, I am not sure where that career is going, maybe she doesn't have what it takes to become competitive on the senior level at the Worlds and Olympics. Just like how Szilágyi wasn't up it, which I saw coming from a mile away, she always gave the impression of being a mess as a person, she never had the mentality or the supportive background of an Olympic medalist/champion. Hungarian swimming has a very unwelcoming atmosphere around it. It's not as bad as American women's gymnastics, but you get the sense that if someone doesn't have the deep inner drive to achieve greatness, they can quickly find themselves in a bad place. Like how even Milák did despite all the success. They are burning out athletes, more so than in any other sport in Hungary and that will result in "causalities". But if someone doesn't like the Hungarian way, they can always train elsewhere, just like Hosszú or Kós did. And at the very least Hungarian swimming is producing results (for now), so it does seem like the system works, it's just not for everyone. Hungarian women's handball for example has a much, MUCH lower rate of turning youth/junior success into senior world class talent. Hungarian swimming is still a long way from to be accused of having bad talent management, it won't happen until we flop in the next few Worlds and in Paris, but Milák can always "save the day" IF he comes back.

Takács with a new NR in women's 100m yesterday (11.14). The 11.07 Olympic ES is in sight, and maybe in due time she can break into the 10s club.

I think we haven't really had a true top tier talent fade out. I mean, the swimmers you mentioned never appeared to be as promising as the likes of Milák, Hosszú, Gyurta. We might have a shitty talent management among the middle-tier swimmers, but I feel like Dávid Verrasztó is the only Hungarian swimmer who never reached his full potential in terms of Olympic medals. Gyurta, Hosszú and Milák were Olympic champion level talents and they all got their gold medals. Kapás and Kenderesi were Olympic medal level talents and they won their bronze medal. Right now we only got Kós who appear to be talented enough to be included among those names. If he won't win an Olympic medal in Paris or LA, I will be slightly disappointed. There's also Késely, who should have become the next Boglárka Kapás, that's an Olympic medal chance thrown out of the window, unless she turns her career around like Gyurta (post-Beijing) and Hosszú (post-London) did. I don't expect much from the rest (with maybe the exception of Padar? I guess we will see in the next few years if she can improve).

If everything goes well I will attend the Gyulai Memorial next week in Székesfehérvár for the first time. I thought that it would be a nice warm up to the WCh. The field of athletes is looking quite strong, we got a lot of big names competing here once again.

Késely might be the biggest Hungarian disappointment in swimming since the Liliána Szilágyi debacle. COVID has been the explanation, that she lost her career momentum because of the COVID break.

Well, the Hungarian national coach simply said that "we got unlucky with 4th places recently, we are capable of winning multiple medals without Milák". And yeah, good luck with that. I am thinking 2-2 appearances in the final Top8 from Kós (200 back, 200 IM) and Szabó (50 free, 50 fly), plus 1 more random Top8 placement from any of those other options (probably Márton or Késely). We got 11 Top8 placements last year at the Worlds if I exclude the results from those who are missing this year. I expect worse, the 2022 Worlds was at home. Top8 placements at the 2022 Worlds without Milák, Hosszú, Kenderesi, etc Szabó (4th, M 50 free) Szabó (6th, M 50 fly) Németh (6th, M 100 free) Telegdy (6th, M 200 back) Kovács (8th, M 200 back) Kós (6th, M 200 IM) Holló (8th, M 400 IM) Burián (8th, W 200 back) Kapás (7th, W 200 fly) Hungary (8th, W 4x100 free) Hungary (5th, W 4x200 free)

Apparently the Hungarian team is expecting at least one medal in the pool, maybe up to four medals. Personally I am expecting 0 medals for Hungary, we are hitting rock bottom in Japan.

Those 13 spots will be awarded based on both Doha and Fukuoka, it will go to the 13 fastest relays of these two WCh. I am not entire sure which WCh will have the faster times in the relay events. Hungary for example will have to focus on Doha, hoping that Milák will return by then, we are fucked without him.