[OFF TOPIC] Russia-Ukraine War

[Grassmarket 3,353]

4 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said:

I'm aghast about this. And I don't know if our government does this in spite of realizing how close we actually are to Russia or because of this.

They’ve been bribed or blackmailed.  Putin knows what they all did back in the  days, both sides of the Wall.  Schröder should have been flung in jail for life. The fact that he wasn’t convinces me many others are on the golden ruble.  Plenty of ours too, btw, it’s not just Germany.

[MHSN 3,582]

43 minutes ago, Illya said:

Thanks for all support , but ......

Вut other countries are not doing anything for Ukraine. Only words, only verbal support. Few countries are in favor of imposing sanctions

I wish you, your family and your country the best of luck. I know how it feels to live in a situation like that.

 

I just hope this madness, this meaningless war ends soon. with as less causality as possible

[heywoodu 14,869]

30 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

God knows what NATO does when Russia invades the Baltic states. You know it will be Putin's next target. And Poland right after that.

Call it fair, call it unfair, but the Baltic states are NATO members, unlike Ukraine, and so an attack on them will without a doubt be treated differently. Without adding an opinion to that, that's simply how it is.

 

If they were not NATO members, Putin would have long ago gotten them..

[Monzanator 4,453]

10 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Call it fair, call it unfair, but the Baltic states are NATO members, unlike Ukraine, and so an attack on them will without a doubt be treated differently. Without adding an opinion to that, that's simply how it is.

 

If they were not NATO members, Putin would have long ago gotten them..

I'm not so sure about it. Of course NATO can send some troops to Baltic states but might concede this a lost battle for the sake of economical safety & pressure from global banks (as it always is). The best thing for Poland is that Putin will undoubtedly go after Baltic states first since there are enough ethnic Russians living there he can sell the old crap of "peace-keeping the Russian-speaking minority". That excuse will never fly with Poland. Western Belarus is no longer within Polish borders like it was in 1939.

[Vektor 3,325]

There's absolutely no way they would let Putin take the Baltic states, that would be the end of both NATO and EU. The reason why this is happening to Ukraine because they were alone in this as a "neutral" state, without any real allies. NATO exists because it guarantees the safety of all members, if that gets thrown under the bus, you might as well start learning Chinese and Russian. 

[hckošice 14,753]

Looks like took the Kyiv airport (Hostomel) back

 

and one Russian military plane crashed even before entering Ukraine (must be some typical brilliant soviet technology)...

[rafalgorka 1,508]

Just now, Vektor said:

There's absolutely no way they would let Putin take the Baltic states, that would be the end of both NATO and EU. The reason why this is happening to Ukraine because they were alone in this as a "neutral" state, without any real allies. The literal reason for NATO to exist is that it guarantees the safety of all members, if that gets thrown under the bus, you might as well start learning Chinese and Russian. 

I hope you are right.

 

but i’m not sure what happens when Trump comes back in 2024.

[Grassmarket 3,353]

Back in the 1980s it was my theory that the West could swiftly defuse any Russian invasion just by leaving crates of vodka & porn by the side of the road.  Worth a try now.

[Vektor 3,325]

Is it just me or does the scale of the invasion seem very small? I mean, for most of the day I just thought that we aren't getting information on what's happening, but maybe not much of actual significance happened besides the bombing? Either the Russian invasion is somehow failing or Putin wasn't lying when he called it a "special military operation" and this isn't a full scale invasion for now. 

[rafalgorka 1,508]

18 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Back in the 1980s it was my theory that the West could swiftly defuse any Russian invasion just by leaving crates of vodka & porn by the side of the road.  Worth a try now.

We tried this with them here in Poland before. Ain’t worked.