MHSN

As always, thanks for the in-depth view of how things work in Iran, it's always much appreciated! I'm still going to keep cheering for Alizadeh  

they never had a chance, they just sent a big team
 
they had 4 wrestlers yesterday, their results:
 
60kg: 0-10
67kg: 0-9 , repechage 2-11
77kg: 0-8
87kg: 0-9
 
and men's freestyle results won't be much better tomorrow. absolutely no chance for a quota.

they never had a chance, they just sent a big team
 
they had 4 wrestlers yesterday, their results:
 
60kg: 0-10
67kg: 0-9 , repechage 2-11
77kg: 0-8
87kg: 0-9
 
and men's freestyle results won't be much better tomorrow. absolutely no chance for a quota.

summary of qualified wrestlers
 
50:
53:
57:
62:
68:
76:
 
at 76, it will be between MGL, UZB and IND. MGL will qualify if she beats UZB. which is very likely to happen
 
* China and Japan will have a complete team in women's wrestling. MGL (if qualifies at 76) will have 5 female wrestlers.

Hope you feel better soon @MHSN

well I'm alive , but still can't walk. it was a U-turn and the car was driving slow still didn't notice me at all and hit me hard on both knees. one of them is almost OK now, the right knee still not so good.
didn't go to the hospital yet because the situation is getting worse in my town regarding corona but since it doesn't heal itself I'm getting an appointment for the next week. hopefully it's nothing serious.

I'm sorry...
 
good luck...hope it gets well as soon as possible...

well I'm alive , but still can't walk. it was a U-turn and the car was driving slow still didn't notice me at all and hit me hard on both knees. one of them is almost OK now, the right knee still not so good.
didn't go to the hospital yet because the situation is getting worse in my town regarding corona but since it doesn't heal itself I'm getting an appointment for the next week. hopefully it's nothing serious.

Sorry to hear that ...... Get better fast .... But you can watch the qualifiers hopefully in peace .....all the best

well I'm alive , but still can't walk. it was a U-turn and the car was driving slow still didn't notice me at all and hit me hard on both knees. one of them is almost OK now, the right knee still not so good.
didn't go to the hospital yet because the situation is getting worse in my town regarding corona but since it doesn't heal itself I'm getting an appointment for the next week. hopefully it's nothing serious.

I know this is way too early but after the Greco competition in Asia, we know the name of 14 qualified countries in each Greco-Roman weight. we still don't know who is going to Bulgaria, some countries may use a different wrestler but this is the list of "better wrestlers/countries" without quota. there will be seeding, I will list two seeded wrestlers
 
I think European wrestlers will win most of the quotas, probably 9 or 10. maybe even all 12 !
 
 
60: seeds) Gharibyan and Angelov ( and are next in line in case Bulgaria uses a different wrestler)
I believe it will be only between European wrestlers, only slim chance for and to make a difference
there is no clear favorite left, but I think have a better chance + those 2 non-European wrestlers are next.
 
67: seeds) Bakhshilloev and Ashu (, and are next if UZB uses another wrestler)
again no clear favorite but they are lots of good guys, are better here, I can name 10 other countries with decent wrestlers but I'm going to stop here. this weight will be crowded in Bulgaria
 
77: seeds) Liakh and Rivas ( and are next)
Kim and  Nemes (both former world champions) are the biggest name not qualified yet and they can easily fall in the same part of the draw. have good wrestlers left, I can add few more names too. for example
 
87: seeds) Sunil and Avendano ( and are next)
some big names are still left without quota, the biggest name is ! I don't know who they are going to send to Bulgaria but I assume that will be Chakvetadze defending Olympic Champion. Basar is a two time World Champion plus former world medalists like Shahinyan and Nouri, even though I believe Iran will send a different wrestler, (too early though, Nouri just lost today) after these guys I can add to the list too.
 
97: seeds) Kakhelashvili and Omarov (next is )
another European competition, I believe only in this weight the top seed is indeed the best remaining wrestler. are probably the best after him. maybe from Asia too.
 
130: seeds) Perez and Coon (next is )
this is a week weight in general, the level was low even in Europe. I think all notable wrestlers are already qualified but are a bit better than the rest. even and

@MHSN sorry to hear all of this. I wish you very speedy recovery! 

I know this is way too early but after the Greco competition in Asia, we know the name of 14 qualified countries in each Greco-Roman weight. we still don't know who is going to Bulgaria, some countries may use a different wrestler but this is the list of "better wrestlers/countries" without quota. there will be seeding, I will list two seeded wrestlers
 
I think European wrestlers will win most of the quotas, probably 9 or 10. maybe even all 12 !
 
 
60: seeds) Gharibyan and Angelov ( and are next in line in case Bulgaria uses a different wrestler)
I believe it will be only between European wrestlers, only slim chance for and to make a difference
there is no clear favorite left, but I think have a better chance + those 2 non-European wrestlers are next.
 
67: seeds) Bakhshilloev and Ashu (, and are next if UZB uses another wrestler)
again no clear favorite but they are lots of good guys, are better here, I can name 10 other countries with decent wrestlers but I'm going to stop here. this weight will be crowded in Bulgaria
 
77: seeds) Liakh and Rivas ( and are next)
Kim and  Nemes (both former world champions) are the biggest name not qualified yet and they can easily fall in the same part of the draw. have good wrestlers left, I can add few more names too. for example
 
87: seeds) Sunil and Avendano ( and are next)
some big names are still left without quota, the biggest name is ! I don't know who they are going to send to Bulgaria but I assume that will be Chakvetadze defending Olympic Champion. Basar is a two time World Champion plus former world medalists like Shahinyan and Nouri, even though I believe Iran will send a different wrestler, (too early though, Nouri just lost today) after these guys I can add to the list too.
 
97: seeds) Kakhelashvili and Omarov (next is )
another European competition, I believe only in this weight the top seed is indeed the best remaining wrestler. are probably the best after him. maybe from Asia too.
 
130: seeds) Perez and Coon (next is )
this is a week weight in general, the level was low even in Europe. I think all notable wrestlers are already qualified but are a bit better than the rest. even and

Thank you so much,  I think the same - 130kg, ROU, AZE, UKR

I know this is way too early but after the Greco competition in Asia, we know the name of 14 qualified countries in each Greco-Roman weight. we still don't know who is going to Bulgaria, some countries may use a different wrestler but this is the list of "better wrestlers/countries" without quota. there will be seeding, I will list two seeded wrestlers
 
I think European wrestlers will win most of the quotas, probably 9 or 10. maybe even all 12 !
 
 
60: seeds) Gharibyan and Angelov ( and are next in line in case Bulgaria uses a different wrestler)
I believe it will be only between European wrestlers, only slim chance for and to make a difference
there is no clear favorite left, but I think have a better chance + those 2 non-European wrestlers are next.
 
67: seeds) Bakhshilloev and Ashu (, and are next if UZB uses another wrestler)
again no clear favorite but they are lots of good guys, are better here, I can name 10 other countries with decent wrestlers but I'm going to stop here. this weight will be crowded in Bulgaria
 
77: seeds) Liakh and Rivas ( and are next)
Kim and  Nemes (both former world champions) are the biggest name not qualified yet and they can easily fall in the same part of the draw. have good wrestlers left, I can add few more names too. for example
 
87: seeds) Sunil and Avendano ( and are next)
some big names are still left without quota, the biggest name is ! I don't know who they are going to send to Bulgaria but I assume that will be Chakvetadze defending Olympic Champion. Basar is a two time World Champion plus former world medalists like Shahinyan and Nouri, even though I believe Iran will send a different wrestler, (too early though, Nouri just lost today) after these guys I can add to the list too.
 
97: seeds) Kakhelashvili and Omarov (next is )
another European competition, I believe only in this weight the top seed is indeed the best remaining wrestler. are probably the best after him. maybe from Asia too.
 
130: seeds) Perez and Coon (next is )
this is a week weight in general, the level was low even in Europe. I think all notable wrestlers are already qualified but are a bit better than the rest. even and

well I'm alive , but still can't walk. it was a U-turn and the car was driving slow still didn't notice me at all and hit me hard on both knees. one of them is almost OK now, the right knee still not so good.
didn't go to the hospital yet because the situation is getting worse in my town regarding corona but since it doesn't heal itself I'm getting an appointment for the next week. hopefully it's nothing serious.

I think @Mecki83 is right, I also never heard any complain about this rule from the WL community. it seems everybody likes it and nobody is going to change it.
 
it makes sense actually, before 2005 it was minimum 2.5kg between your 3 attempts. which was a relatively big jump, now it's just 1kg. if your rival lifted 200kg, just go and beat him by 1kg more. if you lift the same number "after him" you probably don't deserve to rank higher than him.

I think that the new system is better. All athletes are really close to the limit weight, so we are only speaking about a few gramms which doesn`t really matter for the performance.

On the other hand an athlete has a huge disadvantage if he has to decide first on the next weight and the second athlete only has to wait and decide afterwards. So it is only fair to give the first to decide this advantage.

as @Olympian1010 said whoever reaches the record first finishes higher. your 2nd and 3rd results don't matter at all. Pizzolato had to lift 207 to beat the Bulgarian, he didn't even try because he didn't care much about the CJ medal. he wanted the gold medal in total and 206 was good enough for that.
bodyweight used to be the tiebreaker in weightlifting for a VERY long time (since the beginning until few years ago) but it doesn't matter anymore.
 
btw the fact that this Bulgarian kid can't qualify for the Olympics just shows how terrible is this system. it closed the door for any young talent because you had to collect points from 2018! how old he was when the qualification period started?

I have no idea about the list. But the Asian champions allows 10 athletes per gender so it’s still not easy to say who will grab the Olympic quota. I am pretty sure only Asian champion will get the quota still it’s not a guarantee. Based on my searching, all 2019 WCH champions are preparing for it.
 
Edit: I found a list of 11 athletes per gender attended a NT internal competition for the preparation of Asian CH on March.
 
Women: Hou Zhihui, Jiang Huihua, Liao Qiuyun, Li Yajun, Luo Xiaomin, Deng Wei, Huang Ting, Zhang Wangli, Wang Zhouyu, Kang Yue, Li Wenwen
 
Men: Li Fabin, Chen Lijun, Huang Minhao, Feng Lyudong, Shi Zhiyong, Yuan Chengfei, Lyu Xiaojun, Li Dayin, Tian Tao, Tian Fuxuan, Yang Zhe

Hasibagena and Menghejigan are ethnic Mongolian, they usually don’t have family name.
 
Habila AWUSAYIMAN and Walihan SAILIKE are the order we call them. They are Uighur and the order for them is given name first, family name second. The family name is farther’s given name and it changed by generation.

I think it incorrect to translate their name in mandarin romanization. It’s better to translate their name directly from their mother tongue.
 

Time for freestyle
 
57:
I believe the two biggest names are both in the bottom half, Higuchi (JPN) and Mongolia. the bottom half looks harder in general with Liu (CHN) and that guy from Tajikistan. still I believe the winner of JPN/MGL match will qualify. the top half will be between KGZ, KOR and UZB, Uzbekistan is bringing a new guy who was impressive in Ukraine. I say and
 
65:
out of 3 "better" wrestlers here, two of them are in the top half. I think Bekbulatov will qualify easily from the bottom half. he is a former European champion from Russia. in top half our Yazdani will most probably face the Russian guy of Bahrain in the semis. while this guy had some good results I think the Yazdani junior can beat him. so and
 
74:
Abdurakhmonov has to deal with 3 good wrestlers to qualify from the top half, I think he will. we have more wrestlers in the bottom half but I think at the end it will come to Iran and India wrestling in the semifinal. the Indian guy is new and I'm not really familiar with him, but he beat some good guys in the Indian trials so is dangerous for sure, still Emami is a world bronze medalist (he is new to this weight though) , still and
 
86:
top half looks competitive with 4 good wrestlers, I think Takatani will qualify but all 3 other guys had some good results before. won't be easy at all. I see 4 wrestlers with a chance in the bottom half, KAZ, KOR, UZB and LBN. this guy from Lebanon (he is American in fact) left the LBN wrestling team when they forced him to withdraw against Israel, now he is back! but I assume he didn't train well recently. have a hard time to pick between UZB and KAZ here but since KAZ is the host so I think and
 
97:
top half looks easy for the Olympic bronze medalist, Ibragimov should qualify easily.  bottom half is crowded but still Mohammadin usually techs these kind of wrestlers (techs = 10-0 win) that Korean guy had a good run at the worlds in 2019 and I know MGL is strong but still people expect Mohammadian to challenge the great Sadulaev, this should be easy for him. and
 
125:
again 4 "good" wrestlers in the top half, I was impressed by this Kazakhstani wrestler before. so I pick him for the top half. even though nothing is guaranteed. the bottom half is between MGL and KGZ and maybe JPN. I say and
 
Uzbekistan is favorite to win 4 quotas (65, 74 and 97 are almost guaranteed to me) they have a good chance at 86kg and their 125kg is not that bad. it's possible if they qualify all 6 weights on Sunday.

I can't remember the last time we were "this" lucky with the draw. or maybe one of our guys hacked the draw software this time if Kazakhstan had this draw I would say this is fixed for sure all of our 6 wrestlers won't face their main rivals before the final. unbelievable !
 
I will start with Greco
 
60:
China already has the quota in the top half, maybe only that Mongolian kid can do something. the bottom half is a little more interesting, Sharshenbekov is huge favorite but Korea and maybe India won't be easy for him. I don't know this Korean guy, he is new to me but they are always good in this lower weights.  and are easy picks here
 
67:
top half is much much harder, with Ryu, Shermakhanbet , Vardanyan + JPN and KGZ. I pick Ryu since he is already in the semifinal.
dream draw for Geraei! out of 6 guys "capable" of beating him 5 of them are in the top half! India has to be in the bottom half because of the seeding, I believe his biggest opponent is from China. and Geraei only has to beat the winner of CHN/IND! I say and
 
77:
the great Kim Hyeon-woo is the main favorite and I think he will qualify from the top half but he got the toughest possible opponents here, Gurpreet from India and then Makhmudov (KGZ) who beat Kim at the Asian Games. I still think Kim survives this. the bottom half will be a direct match between China and Japan. really hard for me to pick between these guys but since the Chinese guy is new to this weight I say and
 
87:
Sunil is already in the semifinal to face the winner of KAZ and JPN. I think these 3 guys are more or less in the same level. in a neutral country I would say India but to beat Kazakhstan in Kazakhstan you have to work a lot to beat the refs too! the bottom half looks good for our Nouri. he will face the winner of CHN/KOR in the semifinal. that won't be easy but still I expect Nouri to beat any of these guys relatively easily. so and
 
97:
things are not very easy for the Asian Champion Saravi , he has to beat Uzbekistan and China to qualify but he will do that if nothing crazy happens. still he has to be careful. the bottom half looks more complicated with 4 or 5 wrestlers in the same level. while Kazakhstan will do its normal magic with the refs I expect that Kyrgyz kid to qualify. and
 
130:
this one is more competitive than other weight, 7 wrestlers more or less in the same level. two groups. I think Abdullaev will advance from Group A, hard to pick the 2nd guy. group B will be closer , I don't know how good is the grandpa Tsurtsumia. he used to be very good but he is 40 ! I have a bold prediction here, wants to give it to China. but south Korea is a former bronze medalist. I say and but as I said all of these 7 guys are capable of wining the quota.

I'm waiting for the brackets , I believe we will have them in an hour but the UWW website indirectly announced the seeded wrestlers,
 
 
the start list is slightly different than the previous one, for example the other Russian wrestler of Bahrain is back and he will be the top seed at 65kg. those numbers is the final number of wrestlers per each weight.
 
huge huge surprise that 40 years old Georgiy Tsurtsumia is back ! he is a 2004 Olympic silver medalist he was inactive since 2008
 
57 (9): Myrzanazar uulu Liu
65 (10): Ali
74 (12): Lee Sharipov
86 (10): Takatani Dauletbekov
97 (10): Ibragimov Kadian
125 (11): Batirmurzaev Lazarev
 
60 (9): Walihan Sharshenbekov
67 (13): Ryu Ashu
77 (9):  no seeded wrestler
87 (8): Sunil
97 (9): Saravi Nara
130 (7): Kim Abdullaev
 
50 (5): Round Robin
53 (6): Amanzhol Keunimjaeva
57 (6): Anshu
62 (7): Kassymova Sonam
68 (6): Zhou
76 (5): Round Robin
 
 
* in two weights with 5 wrestlers it will be round robin, the seeding doesn't matter. in 5 other events we have 6 or 7 wrestlers, which means 2 groups of 3 or 4. top 2 will be separated at least for the group round.

of course we can reach different satellites...especially here in the North of Italy, I can see only a few channels from the Middle East...meanwhile in the South of Italy it's very different, they can see almost everything from 26 East and 7 west (BEIN included...there are a lot of Italian subscribers -normally thanks to Moroccan resellers)...
 
however, sometimes I explore different positions going east (42° with the Turkish channels, said Azeri and Turkmen channels, sometimes when they're active at 52° the Uzbekistan Sport channel, the Afghan RTA and RTA Sports for some Cricket...unfortunately, the Kirgyz Sport channel and a few others interesting channel from that area would require a bigger dish than mine )...
 
however, personally, I'm OK with my Sky italia + the Czech/Slovak TV Subscription and the whole German and British FTA channels lineup (nowadays I'm more and more relying on the OTT services for the US Sports and YT/World federations services for the disciplines with less room on the traditional tv channels, since I finally got a full gigabit fiber internet connection )...