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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Nathy:

WOW Nevin

Congrats, another sensational day for Switzerland. Switzerland doing much better than expected here, especially in alpine skiing?

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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Nate River:

Toutant was a surprise, but he won an event where the top two favorites where Canadians.

 

Kripps was the best bobsleigh pilot this year so I don't see how it was surprising for him to win gold here. Certainly a lot less surprising than Jamanka winning.

So why dont you answer to what i wrote about Serwa, ice dancing or Bloemen?

I dont think that the top two favorites in big air were canadian. Before the start of the final? Yes. Before the start of the games? No, not to me, my favorite was Kleveland.

Kripps won the 2-man world cup, wouldnt say he was the best pilot just because of that. In my personal opinion he wasnt the best pilot, i always thought that Friedrich would (easily) win gold here, which would have been the case, if he wouldnt have messed up the first 2 heats. Kripps won the world cup, so objectively he was probably the favorite, thats true.

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vor 3 Minuten schrieb Shiffrin:

While I’m rewatching the race, it does seem Kosir was faster or at least had an equal time to Lee? 

 

His board is clearly over the line while Lee isn’t. If their times were equal Kosir would have been in the final as he had a faster Q time. 

Kosir is in the back? If yes, very hard to explain. I know what most people will think, but i dont think that the korean hosts could just manipulate official timing.

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vor 12 Minuten schrieb Nate River:

You have to understand that for the average Canadian, the winter Olympics is a hockey tournament first, a curling tournament second and a bunch of other stuff attached to it third. So on paper these where good Olympics but I doubt that's what the average Canadian is going to take away.

 

Also worth remembering that if you remove the gold medals added since Sochi we have less golds than in Sochi, and that if you remove the gold medals added since Vancouver we have only 7 gold medals. So in a very real sense our performance is being propped up by the events that are being added.

1) Do canadians really care about womens ice hockey or is it more like in Germany with womens football? Millions watch it, because its football after all, but noone really cares about the results in the end?

2) Did canadians really care about the results of mens ice hockey here? I always wondered: Does an average canadian even know those players who played here or are those guys completely unknow in Canada?

3) Not surprised about the canadian enthusiasm about curling, considering that (according to german commentator) there are more active curlers in canada than in the rest of the world combined, probably a bit like luge in germany, although almost noone in germany really likes luge, most people only watch it because germany is good in it.

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Good result for everyone who predicted that Czech Republic would win at least 1 gold in snowboarding. I would have preferred a different outcome, but Ledecka is just too far ahead. Only logical result, although she already had a gold and could have let someone else have this one ...

From a german perspective and a "it would only be in favor of the excitment in this event, because her dominance is just too big" viewpoint i would like to see her fully concentrating on some other sport in 2022.

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vor 7 Minuten schrieb intoronto:

All of Canada's golds were not surprising (maybe Leman's)

Really?

Not like Naeslund was the huge favorite here. The french girl in ice dance almost losing her dress certainly wasnt the reason for canada winning the gold there?

Toutant winning gold today also wasnt surprising, as well as Ted-Jan Bloemen winning 10 000 m gold? Bloeman of course was a top 3 favorite, but given his results at major championships i dont think that it was expected that he would keep his cool this time. For me Kripps winning gold was also surprising. I know that he won the world cup, so i get that most people will say that this gold was expected ... but i dont agree.

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb George_D:

If Canada was more cautious in curling they could even 1st place

Yes, if Canada would have won all events here, they probably would have won the medal table.

In the end canadians will be very happy with their results here, i doubt that anyone in Canada will be sad about this 3rd place. If Germany and/or Norway would have won some of their expected golds, this never would have gotten that close. Canada won enough surprising golds to make it almost close though and that should be really appreciated.

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Medal for Brazil!

Also crazy gold for Italy, they are the second biggest positive surprise at the olympics behind only Sweden.

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Germany is in the lead! Probably the only time i will be able to say that in a snowboarding event at the olympics.

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vor 2 Minuten schrieb Nate River:

I don’t think Red cares that much about Big Air now that he won in Slopestyle tbh xD

Yeah, he doesn't have a medal chance anyway, so he could as well just withdraw. I wasn't "shocked" because i thought "wow, this is bad for his medal chances", but because i was surprised that he would fly back and forth just to star in a tv show.

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vor 32 Minuten schrieb DaniSRB:

is there some replay? i overslept

I am sorry for you, do you have TLC? They show a replay right now, but i don't know if its only in Germany ...

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vor 6 Stunden schrieb Gianlu33:

Of course (and sadly) it was a mistake

 

I also would have given the victory to superstar Ayumu, because his grabs were much better, but i don't think it's as big a scandal as Klapfer winning a medal in nordic combined. I hope that White retires to finally make way for the new era of Ayumu Hirano. Hirano is 19 years old and already has two olympic silvers, he will be considered the best halfpipe athlete ever after his retirement. White should focus on skateboarding at the 2020 olympics now. Maybe he will become the next athlete to win medals at both olympics.

 

Also interesting: Gerard flew home, because he will be a guest in Jimmy Kimmel's show, although he will compete in big air in a couple of days.

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Very happy for Pat, but very sad for Tim-Kevin. This is clearly more comeptitive than on the women's side, despite I-Pod and David not being here.

Interesting that of the 3 medallists from 2014 only one made the final. Out of the 12 finalists from 2014 only 2 made the final here.

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Didn't watch the final, was it a fair competition? Results look a bit odd (for example Gasser being so far back)

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb orangeman:

 

Canada has a good shot at Big Air, too.  I think we're all just a little sensitive after the judging in 2014.  Like in any judged sport, there can be debate this time around, but the gold medal winner isn't a joke like it was last time.  

I still have Kleveland as favorite in the big air + the japanese and i agree about Gerard, there has been talk about him for years. He might not be the White/Hirano kind of talent, but also no one-hit-wonder.

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb heywoodu:

I don't follow snowboarding at all and even I knew Gerard....  

Really? You knew him only because of the olympics or even in advance? There has been talk about him for years (since he was 12 at least), but i didn't think that someone who normally doesn't follow snowboarding would know about him.

Gerard wasn't out of this world today, but you should at least acknowledge that his creativity today was on another level. I think he was pretty much the only one who seemed to have put a lot of thought into how he wanted to seperate from everyone else. I think this was Canada's best and maybe even only good chance for a gold medal in snowboarding, so i understand their disappointment.

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb Gianlu33:

And it's silver for Parrot! Gerard won, USA won again in slopestyle

 

What happened to Kotzburg by the way? That's probably why i am not a huge fan of slopestly, we have new names all the time, there is not so much consistency at the top + most runs look the same, especially the second part of every run, they should design the track in a way that gives the athletes more freedom to be creative.

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vor 11 Minuten schrieb heywoodu:

 

A medal in ski jumping is (very) far from a surprise of course, but I meant in terms of gold. Realistically speaking a gold medal out of slopestyle, ski jumping and cross-country (before the men's skiathlon of course) was fairly realistic, so I'd be disappointed if I was a fan of Norwegians. Oh well, in terms of total medals there's nothing wrong and they first gold is there, so Norway has opened up the expected attack on 1st place again. 

It's not a surprise, but also not expected, no norwegian was a top 3 favorite and Kalla was the favorite in women's skiathlon. In terms of gold = a bit less expected, in terms of total medals = more than expected. 3 medals in men's skiathlon = 2 more than expected and certainly gold wasn't expected, so i would say they are 2-3 medals better than expected at this moment.

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb heywoodu:

Kinda disappointing start to these Olympics for Norway. 

What? Two medals in men's ski jumping = two more medals than expected, silver in women's biathlon = 3 more medals than expected.

Of course many expected silver and bronze in women's cross-country (Kalla was always favorite for gold) and i expected for Kleveland, so you could say that it's a bit unexpected that they haven't gold by now, but no one could serious expect more than 4 medals by now (before men's skiathlon).

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vor 1 Minute schrieb Gianlu33:

Germany have 13 quotas

Thanks, so possibly Germany will reject one quota in womens PGS and one quota in mens PGS.

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How many quotas does Germany have?

Apparently so far 11 athletes have been nominated (Ramona Hofmeister, Selina Jörg, Carolin Langenhorst, Patrick Bussler, Stefan Baumeister (PGS), Paul Berg, Martin Nörl, Konstantin Schad, Jana Fischer (Cross), Silvia Mittermüller, Johannes Höpfl (Freestyle)), but two more athletes (Anke Wöhrer and Alexander Bergmann (PGS)) haven't been nominated so far, because they didn't reach the national qualification criteria.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb phelps:

 

well, actually 99% of "big names" were there (unfortunately I couldn't watch the race, but I read the detailed final results on the FIS website)...

it's just that many of them didn't make it through to the top 16...

results are not so weird...it was parallel slalom, not PGS...so most specialists are different, especially this season, where we only have PGS at the Olympics (having therefore the top PGS specialists left aside for a while the PSL specific workout)...

moreover, PSL is always so close that's difficult to predict the outcome...sometimes it's just a question of luck in the qualification round...

for sure PGS has a lot more established "elite", so to say, who are always in the top part of the final standings than PSL...

Ok, thanks. I missed the fact that it was PSL. Non-olympic events are normally not taken too seriously, its the same in alpine skiing parallel slalom. I wondered why Ledecka didnt compete, but i think she finished 5th or something like that in womens downhill training, so apparently that was more important for her than competing in the PSL, although i think both events took place in Austria, so probably she was just too lazy to compete in both ...

Edited January 12, 2018 by OlympicsFan

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Did anyone follow snowboarding parallel slalom today? The results look pretty weird and apparently many big names were missing.

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vor einer Stunde schrieb Jur:

Well, the best athletes are missing because they want.

Yeah ... i know that noone took them as hostages and forced them to stay away ...

It has nothing to do with the host, FIS needs to do something about it, obviously the price money isnt big enough. Maybe they can "force" the top athletes to attend by changing the qualification pathway for the olympics. If you want to compete at the olympics, you have to compete at the world championships (of course unless you are injured at that time). If you win gold at the world championships you get 1000 points for the olympic ranking, if you win a normal world cup you get 50 points ... something like that. So everyone who wants to compete at the olympics either has to compete at the world championships or has to win pretty much all world cups between the two olympics, because otherwise he/she wont collect enough points to qualify for the olympics. I know that you cant force the athletes to compete at the world championships, but i think you can make it impossible/extremely difficult for them to qualify for the olympics, if they dont compete at the world championships. I think another big problem is that the world championships are so close to the X Games. FIS should host the world championships much earlier, in January or maybe even December, so that the best athletes dont have to choose between those two events. Currently none of the top athletes should choose the world championships over the X Games, if he/she is in his/her right mind.

Edited March 11, 2017 by OlympicsFan