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Quotes from the captain of the national team (M. Filima) can be found here https://suspilne.media/sport/764483-ukraina-bude-predstavlena-najsilnisim-skladom-na-olimpiadi-2024-u-zinocomu-tenisi-hto-potrapit-v-komandu/

Our federation announced for W. Singles: Svitolina, Yastremska, Kostyuk + request to allow Kalinina or Tsurenko to compete (they have no enough games for national team due to high level of competitivenes). W. Doubles: N. Kichenok + L. Kichenok. And some pair from singles.

Very good evening for Ukraine! I am very happy for Iryna Herashchenko - she had so many 4th places. I really want Olympic podium for her. And Kohan`s progress led him to his first big adult medal. But the next 2 days will be medal-free for us )

She got a small injury few days ago and was not sure tp start or nor.

By the way. Spain tried to protest to get bronze in the race walk. But the result stands.

It looks like Live results system "is slowly dying"...

Bronze medal and Olympic quota for Olyanovka!

I'am not sure. No confirmation from Samoa in the document. So C1 is still can be reallocated.

Russians announced their squad for the Olympic games in Paris including 12 people. They did it before the qualification dedaline so the rankings are not finalized and it is to early to predict possible quotas transfer to ceretain athleyes. So we have an update of the list of possible reallocations. Let me remid that the surnames and reasons are not my own but were officially sent to the IOC by Ukrainian authorities. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Judo TASOEV Inal M100+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Pro-war activities in social networks Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey M100 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail M90 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo ARBUZOV Timur M81 ? ? Judo LAVRENTEV Danil M73 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo CHOPANOV Murad M66 ? ? Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan M60 ? ? Judo STARTSEVA Elis W78+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina W70 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Photos with Z Propaganda event involving children from the occupied territories of Ukraine Judo LILUASHVILI Dali W63 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria W57 ? ? Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina W48 ? ? Source documents, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24760/ (English text at the bottom of the page) These data will be added to the first post of the thread.

Our media got confirmation of Konotop`s quota from our Weightlifting federation several days ago. It is not clear from the message whether was confirmed after the anti-doping adjustments or before them.

Khm, if someone reads - I have added the most recent direct quote on communication with Bach. On the 25.05.24 Olena Hovorova (advisor of the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine) posted message on this. https://www.facebook.com/olenagovorovakyiv/posts/122149886438205596?ref=embed_post I have added links to the source documents to the first post

Hope Chamizo is aware of these processes and keep preparing.

Practically it makes no sence - for example. the IF sends entries for C2. The IOC`s Board board says: the 1st person is OK, the 2nd - is not OK. The same may happen during the Olympics. So that first athlete will sprint alone in C2? )

Good point. But at the time it is his own decision not to resist to this pressure, but to manipulate with the facts to legitimize what they want. (I think it is not so obvious - what happens if russian money and russians have a free hand in some area - I will prepare a post with an example this and send them to Politics topic). I just have to sress that the reasons of the reallocation in the table are from the documents presented by our NOC and Ministry - so they represent position of Ukarine and show what we expect from the IOC officially. I would like to discuss one more interesting reason for reallocation mentioned not so often - russian athletes having training camps at the occupied territories. Several athletes like Nayfonov had this. In my oppinion, it is a clear reason not be allowed to go to Paris. Benefiting from stolen properties is declared illegal in almost all systems of law.

@Jur @Rafa Maciel I still think that Bach is a men who destroyed the IOC as institution and brought it to autocracy (this attracts him to autocratic leaders). Thus it will not be an institutional decision, it will be his own decision - and he will find arguments to support it whatever decision it will be. Thus it does not really matter what is written in the documents (

Yes, and AIBA allowed them to compete under their flag. The IOC does not force IFs to follow recpmmendations. But notable moment - the case of Sadulaev. UWW allowed him to compete and IOC did nothing to change this. But before the Olympic qualification tournament UWW and russians got info that Sadulaev will not be allowed to go to Paris anyway. So UWW quickly declared him ineligible to allow russians change entries and compete for quota with another athlete. This case shows that decisions of IFs are only for their own competitions.

They had them several years ago - there were relays.

I understand the logic your arguments but these recommendations were issued by the IOC for other international federations. So they may follow them in their way. But these rules were not designed for the Olympics itself. The concept of russian athletes participation appeared later and they were marked not Authorized Neutral Athletes (as for example FIG marks them) but Individual Neutral Athletes

Yes, they sjould be excluded too - but It was a belorussian pair in C2W. I think, i will prepare separate table for belorussians.

IMPORTANT! Final decisions by the IOC are in the FIRST post of the topic. ------------------- 1. This list contains AIN`s atheltes with russian passports which "qualified" for Paris - 2024. (Belorussians are not included yet) 2. As well as possible reallocation and the reason to reallocate quota. 3. I have created this separate thread ( @pluto asked it) to keep all the information together because now it is spread over different sports and must not be mixed with the general war-supporters thread. Here we have only the persons whose profiles will be evaluated by the IOC as a single institution to decide their fate. 4. The reasons of reallocation were taken from the official documents prepared by Ukraine for the IOC. update 01.06.24 - Bach ensured Ukraine that all these facts will be taken into consideration - the most recent quote on this from Olena Hovorova (Olympic medallist, now advisor of the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine) - 25.05.24 https://www.facebook.com/olenagovorovakyiv/posts/122149886438205596?ref=embed_post (Earlier - Olha Saladukha (London bronze medallist and deputy of Ukrainian parliament) . Since quota distribution and reallocation are the processes of great interest everyone will be able to evaluate possibility of reallocation of the certain quota. Please, feel free to correct possible reallocations. The list to be ammended with new data to come. People in bold are 99% likely to be removed from the games, in my oppinion. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia Archaia Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg Mercy Genesis Liked post in support of Putin 24.02.24 Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki Likes in social networks * as for me, this would not be enough for the IOC... yet Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina Hrushyna Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Mariana Cherdivara Liked pro-war post in social network Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska Member of the Cental Sport Club of Army Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Kim Da-hyun Participation in war-propaganda tournament Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Iuri Lomadze Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi Liked Z post in social networks Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Ray Rahi (?) Crowfunding campaing for russian army Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia Participation in pro-war event Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI Teams of AIN`s are not allowed Note on the statement, that quotas goes to the NOC but not the athlete: AIN`s represnt themselves only but not NOC, so all their quotas are by name, futhermore ROC is suspended. I do not want to create unnecessary expectations with thsese possible reallocations. We know that Bach can decide it his way. But of course, each NOC should defend its athletes and their chances to go to the Olympics. Update 06.06.24. Judo Russians announced their squad for the Olympic games in Paris including 12 people. They did it before the qualification dedaline so the rankings are not finalized and it is to early to predict possible quotas transfer to ceretain athletes. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Judo TASOEV Inal M100+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Pro-war activities in social networks Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey M100 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail M90 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo ARBUZOV Timur M81 ? ? Judo LAVRENTEV Danil M73 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo CHOPANOV Murad M66 ? ? Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan M60 ? ? Judo STARTSEVA Elis W78+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina W70 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Photos with Z Propaganda event involving children from the occupied territories of Ukraine Judo LILUASHVILI Dali W63 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria W57 ? ? Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina W48 ? ? Links to the source documents (the text have english versions at the bottom): Canoe, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24802/ Wrestling 1, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24732/ Wrestling 2, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24843/ Taekwondo, Ministry of youth and sport of Ukraine, Russian taekwondo athletes contracted with military structures Trampoline, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24666/ Judo, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24760/

Official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes Short notes from the IOC statement: 1. Decisions to reject quotas are final. 2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation. 3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not 4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs). Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet. Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision. The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table. Here we have russians - belorussians below Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay AIN - Nachin MONGUSH [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV [11] Reallocated to Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Lu Feng ** Reallocated to Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov AIN - Arslan BAGAEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia ARCHAIA** Reallocated to Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg Oleksandr Khotsianivskyi AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 k Gabija DILYTE** Reallocated to Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Annika WENDLE AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Khongorzul BOLDSAIKHAN **** AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA (rejected by the athlete) Reallocated to Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Ameline DOUARRE AIN - Alina KASABIEVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Razvan ARNAUT Reallocated to ****** Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Kamal Ameer BEY Reallocated to Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Turpal Bisultanov AIN - Alan OSTAEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Georgi IVANOV** Reallocated to Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Nikita Rafalovich Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Reallocation to another NOC Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI AIN - Alexey KOROVASHKOV Zakhar PETROV Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road - AIN - Tamara DRONOVA Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road - AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road - AIN - Alexandr VLASOV - declined by athlete AIN - Gleb SYRITSA Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina Women's -48kg ??? ??? AIN - DUDINA Kristina [8] Reallocated to Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria Women's -57 Shukurjon Aminova Reallocated to Judo LILUASHVILI Dali Women's -63kg Krystyna Homan (W78+) AIN - LILUASHVILI Dali [8] Reallocated to Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina Women's -70kg Tais Pina Reallocated to Judo STARTSEVA Elis Women's +78kg Moira Morillo AIN - STARTSEVA Elis [8] Reallocated to Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan Men's -60kg Andrea Carlino Reallocated to Judo CHOPANOV Murad Men's -66kg Muhammed Demiral Reallocated to Judo LAVRENTEV Danil Men's -73kg STODOLSKI Adam AIN - Makhmadbek MAKHMADBEKOV [8] Reallocated to Judo ARBUZOV Timur Men's -81kg Achraf Moutti AIN - KARAPETYAN David [8] Reallocated to Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail Men's -90kg Eduard Trippel AIN - LORSANOV Mansur [8] Reallocated to Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey Men's -100kg Zsombor Veg Reallocated to Judo TASOEV Inal Men's +100kg Enej Marinic AIN - Valerii ENDOVITSKII [8] Reallocated to belorussians: Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Cycling Hanna TSERAKH Road AIN - Hanna TSERAKH Trampoline Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Women's AIN - Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Trampoline Ivan LITVINOVICH Men's AIN - Ivan LITVINOVICH Taekwondo Georgi Gurtsiev 58 kg Lev Korneev Reallocated to *** Weightlifting Siuzanna VALODZKA W71kg MIRABAL FERIA Yeniuska CUB AIN - Siuzanna VALODZKA Weightlifting Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU M102kg DEHDAR Reza IRI AIN - Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU Weightlifting ASAYONAK Petr M89kg SANTAVY Boady Robert Reallocated to Weightlifting ZIAZIULIN Eduard M102+kg Kamil Kucera Reallocated to Wrestling Aryan Tsiutryn Men's freestyle 57 kg Vladimir EGOROV Reallocated to Wrestling Mahamedkhabib Kadzimahamedau Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo AIN - Yahor AKULICH [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Aliaksandr Hushtyn Men's freestyle 97 kg Radu LEFTER AIN - Uladzislau KAZLOU [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Dzianis Khramiankou Men's freestyle 125 kg Kamil Tomasz KOSCIOLEK Reallocated to Wrestling Kiryl Maskevich Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Lasha GOBADZE Reallocated to Wrestling Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Mihail KAJAIA AIN - Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Wrestling Pavel Hlinchuk Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi AIN - Dzmitri ZARUBSKI [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Vanesa Kaladzinskaya Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki AIN - Viyaleta REBIKAVA [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Iryna Kurachkina Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA Reallocated to Wrestling Veranika Ivanova Women's freestyle 62 kg Johanna LINDBORG AIN - Krystsina SAZYKINA [7] Reallocated to Shooting Uladzislau Dzemesh Men`s Air Pistol 10m Yusuf Dikeç Reallocated to [10] Pentathlon Mariya Gnedtchik Women`s individual Veronika NOVOTNA Reallocated to Pentathlon Anastasiya Prokopenko Women`s individual Anna JURT Reallocated to Tennis Several athletes declined invitations Men's single Taro Daniel Reallocated to [10] Tennis Several athletes declined invitations Women's single Anna Schmiedlová Reallocated to [10] Tennis Several athletes declined invitations Women's single Camila Osorio Reallocated to [10] Reallocation in judo calculate by @Cinnamon Bun is in the separate post Reallocation in wrestling by UWW https://uww.org/article/uww-reallocates-16-olympic-games-paris-2024-quotas Remarks: * - quota should go to JO Seongbin but has selected its maximum number of participant and it is unlikely that IWF or NF will revise that selecion. Thanks to @Jan Linha and @phelps ** - important precedent was found by @Faramir to show alternative way of reallocation supported by @Art Art: a) at a single tournament - quota goes to the first eligible athlete at the tournament where it was won by AIN, not taking into account those who won quotas later b) chronologocally - tournament by tournament - with cascading redistribution of quotas, taking into account those who won quotas later and redistributing their quotas from later tournaments. These alternative ways are show in the table only for the quotas determined to the reallocation by the IOC. *** - thanks for @mard0n , @MantaRaymarc , @Jan Linha @Майкл. It looks to be the first reallocations confirmed by NOCs **** - Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA has priority for this reallocation but she has another reallocation spot from European qualifier which took place earlier ****** - confirmed by NF according to @IoNuTzZ [7] - the IOC invited the athlete, but the quota was rejected by the NOC of belarus https://wrestling.by/news/lish-odin-belorusskij-borecz-primet-uchastie-na-olimpiade [8] - quota declined by russian judo federation. Waiting for official confirmation [9] - quota was accepted but later declined by russian wrestling federation. Waiting for official confirmation of rejection from each athlete [10] - https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27489-ain-athletes-qualification-for-paris-2024-olympic-games-and-reallocation-of-quotas-post1-updated-0907/?do=findComment&comment=645061 [11] - initially accepted but declined after the reallocation deadline

Ok )

Yes those were not allowed to compete. Those who "qualified" will sent to the IOC by the international federations. And the IOC`s commission will decide the fate of every single person. There are a lot of them. If you are interested in I will create a list of athletes with possible reallocations.

Some "subtotal" for performance 5 athletes proceed to the final 2 days. 1 will have 2 chances to get license. We are doing much better. "Return of the King" Sosnovsky (the coach of that famous 2011-2012 team) was a good decision but too late to get more. Even with all the problems we could have 7 atheltes in 2 final days: + Zamotayev (he was very good yesterday against Quiroga but today his right eye was closed since the first round after a heads-hit - he managed to get 2:2 at the scorecards but lost on a margin) + Zakhareev (robbery which... cannot be appealed. The story continues - it turned out that the IOC as the organizer did not bother itself to establish appeal procedure. Anyway the tournament continued and the quotas here will be distributed, so the only way - to prove that the rights of athletes were violated because of the absence of the proper appeal procedure. We will see) Abduraimov - in the SF - according to Sosnovsky - he is the next big star, and I trust him. He impressed here and could be a medal contender in Paris... if he gets license. Lovchynsky - still in the competition but with low chances. The same for Molochko - I am afraid. Kob - you may not be aware of the fact, that the coaches decided to send another athlete. Kob wrote about this intention in social networks claiming that she won direct bout with that alternate. After that she was returned to the squad. And did very well in the first bout against very strong opponent. Still on the road. Kovalchuk - won against Ferchichi but her real power is still unknown. I am not sure if she will be able to win the next bout.