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Personally I find it quite impressive. No matter how many of their top athletes get caught, the others just keep swallowing whatever they can find. I just wish the rest of the world would exclude the US from international competitions until they develop a working anti-Doping system.

For obvious reasons it doesn’t make sense to include American or Chinese cities. My list would be: Paris, London, Tokyo or Sydney Against Tokyo: They handled the 2020 Olympics very poorly Against Sydney: Australia is too small and too hot + Lightyears away from the rest of the world

Germany has the same problem: Kevin Kranz (men’s 100 m) David Storl (shot out) Thomas Röhler (javelin throw) Andreas Hoffmann (javelin throw) Fabian Heinle (long jump) Mateusz Przybylko (high jump) Raphael Holzdeppe (pole vault) Gina Lückenkemper (100 m) Alina Reh (5000 m, 10000 m) Konstanze Klosterhalfen (5000 m, 10000 m) Cindy Roleder (100 m hurdles) Pamela Dutkiewicz (100 m hurdles) Kristin Gierisch (triple jump) Annika Fuchs (javelin throw) Carolin Schäfer (heptathlon) Lucie Kinast (heptathlon) All of them will (probably) miss Tokyo. Others like Niklas Kaul or Christina Schwanitz also aren’t in top shape. I tried to predict which athletes will make the final in Tokyo in each discipline, but it is pretty much impossible since many top athletes haven’t done anything this year so far.

Seems like an overreaction. Overall the field isn’t very strong, so even 65 m might be enough for a medal.

Don’t quite understand why they would nominate Acevedo. Canada has to be at their best to qualify for the 400 free relay final, they can’t afford to rest anyone in prelims.

Ok. Quite interesting that neither China nor Japan are among the top 5 nations with the most athletes in the top 8.

Are you trying to troll me? In the comment I answered to it said „we‘re ruined“, which clearly means that the original poster saw it as very bad for Italy‘s chances. By listing all their other medal chances, I tried to put it into perspective and to show him that they are far from ruined. Obviously none of this matters for Paltrinieri personally, but that wasn’t the point of the discussion.

Yes, he probably would have been your most successful athlete, but how is Italy ruined when they could still easily win 6 medals (which would be a good result for a nation like Italy)? Paltrinieri not competing would also open up a medal spot in the 800 free (for Detti) and the 1500 free (for Acerenza). Also: Maybe he will recover in time?

So your federation basically nominated as many athletes as possible? Completely different strategy compared to some their countries like Japan, France, GB or Germany. Germany for example didn’t even nominate everyone with A standard.

He could be the oldest finalist (in the 50 free or 400 free relay).

Only change in those events after the Canadian trials: Pickrem moves into 8th spot in women’s 400 IM with 4:37.03 I will post the top 8 for all events (relays included) at the end of the week (in case anyone is interested).

1) He could still recover in time. 2) You have more than enough other medal chances: Miressi (100 free) Detti (400/800 free) De Tullio (400 free) Acerenza (1500 free, if Paltrinieri doesn’t compete) Martinenghi (100 breast) Burdisso (200 fly) Maybe men’s 400 free relay Maybe Razzetti (400 IM) Quadarella (800/1500 free) Pilato/Carraro (100 breast) Panziera (200 back)

Hopefully not. I don’t Even want to imagine how the matches would look like. Every non-german who watches the German matches (if their nation isn’t involved) has lost his mind. Compared to Germany even Spain looks good.

Portugal finishing third is not a good sign for all other teams ...

One of the most pathetic performances I have ever seen. You can’t blame Hungary, since they have no individual quality, but Germany playing like this with so much individual talent is a crime against humanity. Even England might be good enough to beat this team.

Disgusting by Germany, they should try to score another goal instead of wasting time.

Pathetic performance by Germany once again. With a win at home against Hungary they would have had a far easier opponent in the next round.

Hungary should have a good chance to score again. Would be great to see both teams eliminated, but I guess that isn’t possible?

Doesn’t really matter. If a system allows 3 of the 4 top European teams of the past decade to be drawn in the same group, then the system obviously doesn’t make sense.

I really wonder who came up with this system/seeding. 6 groups and then we have the last 2 world champions and the current European champion (3 of the 4 teams that made the semifinal in 2016) in the same group (while there is a group with Ukraine, Austria and North Macedonia ...). Also the Runner up of by far the strongest group has to play against a group winner, while the runner up of a much weaker group has to play against the runner up of another much weaker group.

I think this decision doesn’t have that much to do with Hungary. Hungary on a global scale is pretty much irrelevant, but I think muslim countries are pretty important for UEFA and they also wouldn’t have liked to see the stadium in rainbow colors. Also interesting that Hungary asks for politics to be left out, but at the same time we see tons of Hungarian „fans“ with black shirts during all their matches, probably not related to politics at all ... Western politicians can’t complain about UEFA, when they keep financing the Hungarian and polish government. Personally I wish that Poland and Hungary would be kicked out of the EU, but sadly that won’t happen. Also now that I learned more about this topic: I think the major of Munich himself said that this was supposed to be a protest against the new Hungarian law, so he can’t complain that this won’t be allowed. If they would have done the same for all matches (and not just the match against Hungary), there probably wouldn’t have been a problem.

Rikako Ikee winning a medal would be pretty cool, sadly this doesn’t seem very likely. Maybe she can make a final. Slovenia winning a medal in men’s basketball would be pretty nice as well. Pellegrini winning a medal would be pretty funny, but I don’t really see it happening. Another very cool medal winner would be Popovici from Romania in men’s 100 free.

For me it would be a medal for Sarah Köhler, Florian Wellbrock, Philipp Heintz, Gesa Krause or Malaika Mihambo. I feel like they deserved this after their performances in recent years.

No, the problem is that apparently you think (or at least make it sound that way that) discriminating people because of their sexuality (or other things) is a valid opinion. Western countries certainly aren’t morally perfect (or close to it) as we have for example seen during the Iraq war (or many other instances). Many times it is just about trying to cover up the fact that you are trying to make money by claiming pure Motives, although it has to be said that this is usually on the level of politicians/executives (and it is the fault of normal people to buy into it). Personally I don’t care what laws the Hungarian people want to give themselves. If they think that people of a different sexuality shouldn’t be allowed to marry, then it is their right to have that law in their country, but it is not acceptable to hate against people of different sexuality. If Manuel Neuer would tell Orban in a press conference after the game what to do in Hungary, then it would be political and he shouldn’t be allowed to do that, but supporting a movement to stop discrimination (everywhere, this isn’t focused on only one country) isn’t political.

I see, you just want to have your beliefs confirmed. Just to clarify a few things (in case you are willing to reconsider your position): - It might surprise you to hear the mayor of Munich makes its own decision and he doesn’t even belong to the party that governs Bavaria. I wouldn’t be surprise to see a Hungarian person thinking that one party determines everything, but if I remember correctly you said something a while ago about the mayor of Budapest having beef with Orban, so I am bit surprised to hear the can’t fathom the idea of the mayor of a city having his own mind. Also if you think that this is somehow determined by Merkel or other higher-ups, it would be nice to see proof (which is normally what you do in a discussion of you make a claim like that). - Did you even read my comment? I never claimed moral superiority, I even said that western countries often/usually don’t take their own values very seriously, since they usually aren’t willing to pay for it. Often they just like to tell themselves that they are morally pure to ease their conscience. I also said that certain societies just have completely different values and there is no point in trying to impose your values on them. If people in those countries want to change something it is up to them and it is up to other countries not to be in bed with those countries if they don’t share their values.