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This competition perfectly sums up the olympics for Germany. Even safe golds are lost somehow. At least it happened in one of the most pointless sports. How the hell do they randomly draw horses and accept that you are screwed when you get the wrong horse? The result (mainly) being determined by luck is the opposite of what sport should be. I guess in a world where boxing is still an olympic sport, modern pentathlon might as well get a free ride ...

Kenya sweeping all short track medals at the next Olympics would be a smaller fluke than what Italy did here. Realistically even 1 bronze would have been an amazing result for them and now they already stole 4 golds. Very bad news for the EU, considering that Italy pays close to 200k for a gold and obviously isn’t able to come up with the money on its own.

His improvement percentage wise is about as big as that of Warner, the difference is that Warner is half a century older than him ... Also the 50 km race walk is contested far less often than the decathlon, so big improvements are far more likely.

Didn't know that this was still an olympic event. I guess it isn't any less pointless than the mixed relay.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. I think France just took a different approach, focusing more on team sports. Objectively this is a better approach, because it increases social cohesion. For society as a whole the best strategy would be to mainly fund sports that a) increase social cohesion (team sports) and/or b) help integrate people (for example boxing/athletics) and/or c) are very healthy (rowing/athletics/swimming/cycling). It doesn't make much sense to fund sports like shooting, equestrian or fencing, unless your main goal is to win as many medals as possible out of pure vanity.

Another final in men's team sprint? Brilliant strategy to catch China in the medal table ...

Netherlands should win at least 2 more golds in track cycling, also 1 or 2 more golds in athletics and 1 gold in field hockey. There is no reason to feel sorry for the german athletes you mentioned: Unruh: Won individual silver in 2016 and team bronze in Tokyo Handball: They were completely hopeless against Egypt, with such a performance they only deserve criticism. Judo: 2 medals was a solid result for Germany. Shooting: Very poor performances, but Karsch and Reitz already won olympic medals. Beach volleyball: Pretty much the expected results. If anything you should feel sorry for women's quadruple sculls and Niklas Kaul, both of them lost a safe medal due to bad luck. Also maybe Elisabeth Seitz deserves some sympathy after narrowly missing bronze again (at her last olympics). I also feel a bit sorry for Christopher Linke in men's 20 km race walking for missing a medal again, here are his results at the last 4 global competitions: 2020 olympics: 5th place (22 seconds behind bronze) 2019 world championships: 4th place (19 seconds behind bronze) 2017 world championships: 5th place (17 seconds behind bronze) 2016 olympics: 5th place (23 seconds behind bronze)

1) Hassan isn't part of the dutch system. Also her form is horrible, which makes her performances even more absurd. 2) Two medals in heptathlon definitely is a monster fluke. 3) A medal for Bol obviously was expected.

I just looked at your medals and was shocked to see that you won 8 medals in judo, 3 in sailing and 5 in fencing, so not much potential to improve there. Even 40 medals sounds like a rather optimistic prediction at this point. I wonder if your strength in team sports hurts your individual medal chances, in GB it is the other way round (being almost nonexistant in team sports).

Yes, very disappointing. Not sure in which sports they are supposed to dramatically improve until 2024.

Kaul was on his way to 8750+ points, which would have been enough for gold and obviously wouldn't have been 900 points more than his SB. Also he was already qualified for this event, so he had no reason to put down a serious result all year long (and in addition to that he is 8 years younger than Warner).

1) You must be close to retard level of intelligence if you think that Wlodarczyk can throw multiple meters farther than doped Heidler without doping herself. 2) I think unlike Wlodarczyk Heidler has something else in life than sport (which of course means that she has less incentive to dope) 3) If fat granny Wlodarczyk wins another medal in Paris, it is the last proof anyone needed to see that hammer throw isn't a sport (same is true for Fajdek)

Also two golds in the 4x400 m relay. China should win gold in men's table tennis and men's 10 m diving? More interesting question for me is who will finish 7th to 10th. I think the Netherlands will finish ahead of Germany and if Italy continues fluking golds in athletics, they might also finish ahead of Germany (in terms of total medals they definitely could). France is a bit disappointing for me, i thought that they would be better just 3 years away from their home olympics.

0 medals for Germany in hockey and team sports in general is almost too absurd to be true. If you only try to win as many medals as possible, funding for team sports should be cut, but in my opinion team sports are very important for society as a whole, so if anything they should get more funding (especially compared to nonsense sports like luge, bob, canoeing, equestrian or fencing).

Progression of Damian Warner: 2015: 8695 2016: 8666 2017: 8591 2018: 8795 2019: 8711 2021: 9018 In 4 years (from 2015 to 2019) he improved by 16 points and then during the pandemic he improved by more than 200 points as a 31 year old. I can't believe how audacious this guy is. The fact that he thinks that he can get away with this is the most shocking thing for me. Obviously the athletes have zero "fear" of getting caught. I feel very sorry for Mayer, he deserved olympic gold after dominating this olympiad.

Poland, Italy and Netherlands with once in a century fluke performances. At least most of their medalists will be gone soon. Both Kaul and Schäfer could have sleepwalked to a medal without their injuries, Kaul probably would have even won gold.

The result in women's keirin might be the most absurd at the whole games. 3 nobodies noone ever heard of winning the medals. Overall Germany threw away more safe gold medals than even the biggest hater would have predicted.

Disgusting performance by the German team so far, hopefully they will lose all funding. A bit surprising that Russian isn’t winning anything, given that other classic doping countries (Hungary, China) seem to have profited a lot from the pandemic.

Absolutely disgusting performance by the German women in keirin. I thought that gold and silver was a given, but now they are beaten by complete no-names.

1) Yes, but which german athletes (who were remotely elite) were involved? 2) I am not sure if you can win a medal in decathlon/heptathlon without doping. I think that all performances of Kaul are achievable without doping, but i am not sure if it is possible to recover quickly enough without doping to do it all within just 2 days. The other event where it might be possible to win a medal without doping is pole vault. Especially in mid and long distance running it is impossible to medal without doping, considering that a gazillion african people see running as their only chance to earn a decent living and have no problem with doping + their countries don't even try to prevent them from doping. Add in their genetic advantage and it is almost retarded to think that you can beat the most talented of those doped athletes without doping yourself.

Please name the recent doping scandals in Germany (involving german athletes). There isn't any well organized doping system in Germany, this is nonsense. You really think that a country with 1/5th the population of Germany (Netherlands) would be better than Germany in pure doping sports like cycling/rowing/speed skating/track events in athletics if there would be organized doping in Germany (especially with the fact in mind that Germany easily would have the know-how, thanks to the GDR, to outdope pretty much everyone else)? Germany has clearly less doping than almost all the other top nations (except maybe Japan and South Korea) and it is more difficult to dope in Germany that almost anywhere else. Also i forgot Australia on the list, considering their performances in rowing and swimming. Thanks to the GDR history, athletes/coaches who dope would face much more hate than athletes/coaches in pretty much any other country, since those countries don't have the same history. This means that athletes/coaches in most other countries have less fear of doping (since the consequences when getting caught would be less severe). You can also see in other areas that Germany learnt from its history and in some sense overcorrected. After WW2 Germany wasn't allowed to have an army and still today Germany is far less "ready" to enter a war (than countries like France/GB/USA). You can also see that many former GDR doping coaches went abroad, for example british rowing was lead by a former GDR coach until recently and some german coaches went to China (rowing/athletics). Also doesn't make sense to treat Kaul and Warner the same. 1) Kaul has been the best in the world since U18 level, Warner on the other hand improved by 300 points as a 31 year old during the pandemic. 2) Kaul isn't close to world class in any discipline, while Warner is world class in the long jump and close to it in the 100 m and the hurdles.

I never said that the germans don't dope. Vetter, Pudenz and Krause are the most suspicious german athletes. I wouldn't bet anything on them being clean. The difference is that there is no doping system in Germany, it is individual athletes/coaches doping, unlike in other countries (GB, Netherlands, Russia, USA, Kenya, China, Ethiopia, Uganada).

And rowing ... and athletics ... basically all endurance (doping) events.

Yes, them winning 2 golds in athletics instead of zero medals of any color (as expected) wasn't insane luck at all.

Interesting that those two nations didn't win a medal in the same event.