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Defeats against Belgium, Ukraine etc., are unacceptable: you can lose against Poland or France, but not more.

We'll see. I don't see us win more than two gold medals. We don't have any dominant people and our biggest stars are old: Fontana, Wierer, Goggia, Fede.

Bovolenta was at Reggers' level at 2-3 years ago and where are they now? Michieletto isn't playing like a leader in this squad either. He was supposed to be the best volleyball player in Europe for years, but the younger Reggers crushed him today. And you can't blame Lavia's injury on everything, because he hasn't been in good form for two years.

Ghiotto could win everything in the 10km race from 2023 to 2025, and he probably won't win gold at home in Cortina. And if he doesn't win gold, I doubt we'll win anything. I doubt Brignone will return; who's left? Goggia? Unless he gets another injured. I feel very few gold medals for us at home, even in 2022, he already won only two.

Okay, but considering how many junior medals we've won over the years, we've looked terrible. Not making it to the last 16 in such a niche sport, where Russia isn't even there yet, is a disgrace. Michieletti looks like a loser next to Reggers, even though we crushed Belgium in the juniors with Reggers in the squad. I don't know if just sacking de Giorgi will solve everything.

So, on Thursday, we're facing Ukraine to avoid an epochal disaster. We have to win. Otherwise, it will be our worst performance in over 30 years. Either way, this is the worst Italy in over 10 years.

It`s was probably the worse Italy for 2014 World Champ, when we took 13th/14th place.

Italy is complete out of form here. Their peak form was clearly in the VNL, where we lost 3-0 to a not a strongest Poland in the final. However, losing 3-0 to Belgium is unacceptable. As of now, I don't see that we getting out of the group. In the 21st century, we've never finished outside the top 16. But perhaps it's better to suffer such a disgrace and finally get kick of de Giorgi than to remain in this stagnation. It was the same two years ago with Mazzanti. Italy won't achieve anything significant under de Giorgi. Whether we lose 0-3 or 2-3 today doesn't matter, because the match against Ukraine will be a decider anyway. And I don't see us winning 3-2 today from 0-2.

We haven't been winning Junior World Championship medals for 10 years just to lose to Belgium with just one Reggers. Let's respect each other.

If we lose today, it'll be a do-or-die match against Ukraine. I don't see that happening right now.

Italy will probably not advance to 1/8.

First medal for Ukraine?

But final, it`s final- another point places.

I hope that Simonelli could win medal there...

In the final, anyone can win, even Simonelli could.

Bad day for us.

2 first out of form, right?

Italian without form in 800.

I'm a bit of nerwous about today's match against Belgium – they haven't played in the VNL this year, but they already won 3-0 against Ukraine. If we lose, we will at 99% finish second in the group and face France in the Round of 16. Even failing to qualify will be a real possibility, becouse Ukraine is a very dangerous team. Unfortunately, I don't have as much confidence in de Giorgi as I do in Velasco – I was also very nervous with the women's team, but I always had in my mind that the guru was on our bench and knew what he was doing. I don't have that feeling with the men's team.

Old and beautiful polish song from probably the 1960s? (Jacek Lech: "Badz dziewczyna z moich marzen"). Now I have a question for my friends from Poland here: why was this great singer completely forgotten in free Poland after 1989 and why did he die in complete forgotten, as I read in 2007? rafalgorka, 05-monzanator, /22-adriano/?

He was the Chamizo's old rival in the 74 kg category?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWQ0vaoQDEQ

https://www.fantaski.it/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=44073

I just hope he didn't suffer before he died, but it seems he didn't.

Greece? wow