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  1. So punishing proven cheaters is now a political decision? While letting them go scot-free would be fair and NOT political? Always the same boring narrative. "Russians should not be punished for their proven fraudulent cover-up of a fraud (...) because, get this, there are maybe probably more cheaters out there." This would be just dandy in real life. "Your Honor, even though there is undeniable evidence, I believe my client should get away with murder, since there are surely murderers out there who never went to jail."
    5 points
  2. I think everybody's well aware about the doping problem in Kenya. It is questionable whether it its state-sponsored (authorities help athletes to get their drugs) or if they just look away, but whatever. The point is that there is simply not that clear evidence about a systematical doping as we have in the Russian case. Should we wait with punishment for a proven state-sponsored doping fraud until we have checked all other countries? If two burglars rob a bank and we have evidence for only one of them - should both be released just because it would be unfair to the burglar in prison? And moreover, I really don't see why you make an East-Western thing of it. There is no country in the world which has a better network in world sports than Russia. You really think they let Kenya go on purpose while they punish Russia? That's hilarious in my eyes.
    5 points
  3. well, not impossible, because you probably must be stoned to do things like that in front of millions of viewers
    4 points
  4. from any point of view people might look at it, today is just another very sad day for Sports... we have one of the hardest sentence ever taken against a whole Country, theoretically and morally producing enormous damages but in practice being another farce, not really sweeping Russian sport movement and authorities away... moreover, we have a political trial producing a political result against only 1 of those "big cheaters" clearly caught cheating, but the other guilty parts are still there (Salazar? NOP? they are not competing...athletes are..and people like all those who dominated middle distance running in the last few years are still there and still are the only medal candidates for the Tokyo Games...and of course this is only one of those major scandals that should have had a different exposure and countermeasures)... so, we can't even think for a while: "justice is done", because that's not true at all... really, just a very sad day bringing on injustice rather than justice...
    4 points
  5. Javelin Throw Arshad Nadeem 86,29 metres https://www.leichtathletik.de/news/news/detail/72761-flash-news-des-tages
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  6. You should be a little sad. You wanted Russia banned for 30 years IIRC so 4 years is kinda soft Plus it's Russia who gets banned but not actually Russians
    2 points
  7. Team Australia: making her World Cup debut, Jill Colebourn
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  8. Yeah of course. Every word said from Russian side is propaganda and every idea come from US and their puppies is the best possible and only valid options. Putin who invaded Ukraine is dictator and Doctor Evil, Obama who bombed Libya and Siriya is Nobel Peace Laureate. That is how modern democratic world live today. How is possible that USADA knows nothing about about their own athletes doped for years, like Marion Jones, L. Armstrong , Tyson Gay. How is possible that one man can swim 10 races in one day and won on 9. Is M. Phellps human or machine? Kenyan athleets run like they eat gasoline.... Qatar buy athleets and medals on daily level... Ian Thorp, Australian wonderman decide to finish his careere after speculations about doping. Than fairytales about Dr Salazar, Chinese super super humans... Yeah, Russia is the only problem. Bad Russia, bad bad
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  9. Ester Ledecka will continue in the Alpine Skiing WC circuit for the whole december, she will be also in St. Moritz this weekend and the next one in Val d´Isere. However, she will compete in Snowboarding the whole January By her words, the reason to focus more on alpine skiing is clear, the prize money, only last weekend in Lake Louise she gained 52.500 CHF which is already more than what she earned the whole previous season in snowboarding !
    2 points
  10. That's the thing. We can't let the Kenyan thing aside. If Russia is banned from global events then Kenya should follow suit. And yet some people like dcro here claim Kenya should be let off the hook because they don't host global events. What kind of logic is that? Kenya hasn't even been thrown out of the IAAF events even though athletics is like 99% of their sporting presence. I wouldn't be so vocal about it if the same standards were applied for everyone but it's clear they won't. IAAF will look away and let all these Kenyans compete like nothing happened. Hell, they may even award Nairobi hosting the World Championships one day. Because she was banned from competing in Rio 2016 already. She remains based in Russia so it's natural they will ban her from competing in Tokyo again IMO.
    2 points
  11. I remember a few years back Canada allowed themselves to fall out of the top 20 through coaches not paying attention. As a result they could only send one athlete per sex to the Vancouver Olympics!
    2 points
  12. Good try but neah... Your collonialist rule is over, my friend. France no longer dictates who should speak what in this world.
    2 points
  13. Because it's political and everybody knows it.
    2 points
  14. They don't have a state sponsored doping system, more a dont give fuck doping system, which is not exactly the same thing. PS: can you please stop your "westerner" crap. it's getting ridiculous.
    2 points
  15. Yep, but when fraudsters start covering up their fraud with more fraud, punishment has to get harder. Surely there will again be a host of athletes competing, don't forget there were still 168 (!) Russians who could perfectly fine compete in Pyeongchang. It's all nice and dandy for them to kick around crying like a child who doesn't get their preferred candy in the supermarket, but the blame really is 100% on the Russian authorities and their state-sponsored doping. DDR and Soviet-Union all over again without any shame. Sure, one can discuss how WADA handles it, but that just takes away from the main point: Russian authorities fucked their own athletes.
    2 points
  16. I see you're not even defending or pretending your case so I'm sure I was 100% correct on this one
    2 points
  17. Please be more specific, two things, the anti-Russian bias in the West is also responsible for this. Nobody and I mean nobody gives a damn about single, clean Russian athletes. This is a collective responsibility like I ever saw one. At least you can stop pretending and making jokes about the big bad West and all that crap. I know how happy you are right now, well done, you've reached your goal, my congratulations. Now let's see if Kenya gets a widespread ban like that or will the Western world show them pity? I suspect the latter. There's one thing that will come out of this, the Russian hackers will try to expose doping among Western athletes in response. God knows how many things have been swept under the carpet in the West? The Salazar/NOP craze has crushed & burned already and it's only a matter of time when more skeletons start falling out. PS. I fully expect WADA & CAS going nuclear and kicking Russia out of the football Euro 2020 and the 2022 Qatar World Cup if neccessary. All bets are off right now.
    2 points
  18. From the WADA statemen: To be clear, given the timing of this recommendation, it will not apply to next month’s Youth Olympic Games in Lausanne
    2 points
  19. If Qatar joins, Qatar magically becomes the hot favorite.
    2 points
  20. This guy predicted it, on the exact day, three years ago
    2 points
  21. You, sir, have stumbled upon one of the world's best (groups of) sports in terms of watching it both live AND on-demand As phelps explained
    1 point
  22. AlFHg

    Italy National Thread

    Dal 27 al 31 gennaio 2020 ci sarà una tappa di Coppa del Mondo di sollevamento pesi a Roma, valida per il ranking olimpico come categoria "silver"
    1 point
  23. well, if (and it's a big if) this is the case, they must publish that list immediately (and fu*k all the privacy rules...the question goes well beyond that and it's a lot more important)... all the sports fans in the world have all the rights to know who's a cheater and who's not... p.s. and imho, 2 or more positive tests within a team = no team sport in Tokyo... at the same time, stop this OAR/ANA or whatever they want to name it farce!!! if there are some clean athletes who have been capable of qualifying, they should compete under the Russian Flag (and be able to listen and sing their National Anthem in case they win a gold medal)... IOC should have all the interest to show that nobody is discriminated and all the clean athletes are more than welcome to the OGs, also the clean Russians...
    1 point
  24. On the best possible track!
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  25. Monobob Men: Monobob Women:
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  26. Actually USADA already criticized the decision because they wanted a full ban. I fail to see a more reasonable decision than the one taken today: Russian athletes are in as long as they didn't test positive and got covered by RUSADA. The NOC is banned because Russian authorities failed to cooperate (and actually gave fake data). This is a victory for Russian athletes as long as they are clean.
    1 point
  27. https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2019-12/wada-executive-committee-unanimously-endorses-four-year-period-of-non-compliance CRC Chair, Jonathan Taylor QC, said: “Today, the ExCo has delivered a strong and unequivocal decision. While being tough on the authorities, this recommendation avoids punishing the innocent and instead stands up for the rights of clean athletes everywhere. If an athlete from Russia can prove that they were not involved in the institutionalized doping program, that their data were not part of the manipulation, that they were subject to adequate testing prior to the event in question, and that they fulfil any other strict conditions to be determined, they will be allowed to compete. “WADA now has the names of all suspicious athletes in the LIMS database, and thanks to the painstakingly forensic nature of the investigation, this includes the athletes whose data was manipulated or even deleted, including the 145 athletes within WADA’s target group of most suspicious athletes but also others beyond that target group. While I understand the calls for a blanket ban on all Russian athletes whether or not they are implicated by the data, it was the unanimous view of the CRC, which includes an athlete, that in this case, those who could prove their innocence should not be punished, and I am pleased that the WADA ExCo agreed with this.”
    1 point
  28. Politic 1 - 0 Sport Again
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  29. Whatever. It's pure bullshit no matter how you look at it
    1 point
  30. Russian presence in ski jumping or alpine skiing is minimal. I'd be shocked if they allow a single biathlete or cross country skier to compete in Beijing. Bolshunov & co. will watch the Games on TV
    1 point
  31. +1 for your attention, buddy Anyway, jokes aside. say what you want but personally I agree with the decision. the Russians are responsible for it and can blame only themselves. The good thing is that the clean athletes are allowed to compete and it is how it should be.
    1 point
  32. Well, nearly everything we now about the Kenyan problem is BECAUSE ARD investigates. Hajo Seppelt, the main driver behind the ARD investigations, always points out the big problem in Kenya - why should ARD do all that effort when "they" (the entire Western world which is best connected onto all TV stations, ofc) want to let Kenya get away? But let the entire Kenyan case aside for a moment: We have a proven case of state-sponsored doping in Russia. What should the world of sports do with it? You didn't answered my question with your last comment. It's easy to call that case just "political" (the Serbian user did it, not you)... but it does not answer the question what to do with proven fraud! Edit: Nobody said that Russia is the only evil in the world. But considering from the perspective of sports, the Russian authorities ARE evil - and this needs to be punished, no matter who else is evil too
    1 point
  33. And don't even start with Kenya and Ethiopia. Whatever they may be doing, they did NOT host Olympics and essentially made a mockery from them. It's like comparing a street mugger with corrupted CEO.
    1 point
  34. You are very naive. How much money & effort ARD put into uncovering the Russian doping case? I'd say quite a lot. How much effort does ARD or anyone else put into the Kenyan case? I'd say much less. Yeah, it's better to look away and pretend Russia is the only evil of this world
    1 point
  35. Is Kenya a state-sponsored doping too? Or because the country is poor their form of doping support doesn't count as statewide? I'm well aware the Westerners like you would only like to talk about DDR & Soviet Union (Russia) but it's not going to work, my friend.
    1 point
  36. sure...that's perfectly understandable... but then, if you really can prove a whole system is corrupted from the head, then you can put on a farce like OAR and say: "OK...no Flag, no Anthem, but we let those people play just because we can get them personally"... if they decided Russia must go as a whole Nation/system, they must not allow anybody from that Nation to participate under any circumstance (and even not allow them to change Nationality for any reason for the next X years)... still, if you have to take such a Draconian decision, you gotta do it for all those who are in the same situation...not just one single side of the medal... and once again, in any case, guilty or not, the fact itself that we came down to a point like this, it's the saddest moment of the Olympic history just because of it happening...
    1 point
  37. heywoodu

    [OFF TOPIC] General Chat

    I believe I learned that on Totallympics when a certain user explained how popular Russian weightlifter Ruslan Albegov is in online gay communities Just to clarify: with "never been a fan of it" I of course meant the whole Miss World thing I couldn't care less who likes men and who likes women and who likes both or none, as long as we're all happy
    1 point
  38. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-russia-uefa/euro-2020-matches-in-russia-not-affected-by-sanctions-wada-idUSKBN1Y11ZW
    1 point
  39. They will play because UEFA is not the roof organization, it's FIFA
    1 point
  40. If both Norway and Netherlands finish with at least 6 points (for example, if both beat Korea), either Serbia or Denmark will fail to qualify for the OQT, so that Serbia v Denmark match in the last round can be a "life or death" situation for them. As for Montenegro, they should be in the Top8 at the very least, unless they lose their last two matches against Russia and Sweden, AND Romania beats Sweden and Japan, and that's not a likely outcome at the moment.
    1 point
  41. Im a Cruzeiro fan and I'm completly ashamed abaout what the managers, the team and the supporters did this year. The relegation was completly deserved and it will be shame on our history forever
    1 point
  42. now DEN are 14-9 ahead (halftime)... p.s. looking at the Dutch team, it's just like watching the L.A.Lakers in the NBA...out there, it's LeBron leading the time-outs and basically coaching the team...here's Polman doing exactly the same...
    1 point
  43. phelps

    [OFF TOPIC] General Chat

    technically, here I am... the problem...I always make it crooked and I have to try at least 2 or 3 times before it comes out reasonably good... by the way, despite I like suits, I hate ties (I have a wide bull neck and it's always a torture to keep the top buttons of my shirt closed) and I try to avoid using them as much as possible...
    1 point
  44. One taekwondo athlete from Timor Leste entered finals!
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  45. Thailand triumphs in SEA Games Thailand produced a flawless week of hockey as it powered to gold in the Southeast Asian Games in the Philippines. The Thais won all six of their games with an aggregate score of 75-3, sweeping all before them in this five-team tournament. After cruising through the group stage, Thailand did not allow a goal in the playoffs, hammering Malaysia 15-0 before defeating surprise package Singapore 8-0 in the gold medal game. The Philippines, defending champion in this tournament, claimed bronze with a 17-1 success against Malaysia on Sunday afternoon at Mall of Asia rink in Pasay in the Manila region. The fifth team in the competition, Indonesia, failed to advance from the group after losing all four of its games. Despite that, goalie Sangga Putra had the second best save ratio in the competition after stopping 146 shots in the four games he started. Mission: accomplished Last time at the SEA Games, Thailand lost out in the final against a Philippines team taking its first steps on the international stage after becoming an IIHF affiliate in 2016. This time around, revenge was in the air. “We worked really hard since the last SEA Games to turn that loss into a win,” said defenceman Ken Kindborn, the leading scoring in this year’s tournament. “So right now I’m very proud and very happy, but also really humble.” In 2019, teamwork made all the difference. “We really stuck to what we have to do as a team,” Kindborn added. “Everyone knows their role and everyone bought into it 100%. We had the right chemistry in everything, from how we eat, what we do off the ice, on the ice, how we warm up, even how we spend our time off. “Everything has been amazing for the four months that we’ve been preparing for this.” Gold medal dominance The gold medal game went according to the form book. Thailand was dominant from the start and opened the scoring on five minutes through Papan Thannakroekkiat. But Singapore stood up well in the face of the onslaught and even withstood a 5-on-3 power play for the Thais midway through the frame. It wasn’t until the last minute of the period that the resistance faded as goals from Kindborn and Tewin Chartsuwan opened a 3-0 lead. After that the contest was effectively over. Thailand kept the scoreboard ticking over regularly as Singapore found it hard to generate much offence. The shot count read 55-6 after 60 minutes of often one-sided play. Fittingly, Kindborn scored the eighth and final goal, taking him to 5 (2+3) points for the game and cementing his position as the tournament’s leading scorer with 28 (10+18). Swedish-born and with three seasons of experience in division two with Ulricehamns IF, the 24-year-old is a big player on the team. His play for Thailand’s second goal in the final highlighted his contribution. Collecting the puck at the point, he shaped to shoot before spotting the opportunity to advance into a more dangerous position. With the Singapore defence unsure what to expect, Kingborn cruised into position between the hashmarks before wiring a wrister into the net. However, this is not a team built solely on players who learned their hockey abroad. Local talents like Thannakroekkiat, 24, and 18-year-old forward Phanaruj Suwachirat also had a big impact at this tournament. The former topped the scoring from the blue line with 10 (6+4) points, the latter had 14 (8+6). This was Thailand’s second tournament of the season. Last month the kingdom came close to progressing through the opening phase of Olympic Qualifying but lost out to Chinese Taipei in the last 70 seconds of the decisive group game in Hainan, China. And, under the guidance of Finnish head coach Juhani Ijas, also noted for his work in developing the national program in the UAE before moving to Thailand in 2016, the team will contest its second world championship campaign later in the season. After a Division III qualifying campaign last term, Thailand goes to South Africa in April for the Division IIIB tournament with Kingborn hoping for more progress. “Our goal is to move up from that stage,” he added. “We want to advance Thai hockey now. We’re on the right path, we just need to make those next steps and that’s what we’re going for. “It’s going to be really tough but that’s a good challenge for us. We’ve put in all this work and now it’s going to be tested over there.” Singapore’s Cinderella run Despite coming up short in the final, this was a great tournament for Singapore. Before the event, most expected the host nation and Thailand to dominate the conversation about the gold medal, but Singapore had other ideas. In the group phase, it pushed the Philippines all the way, eventually losing 3-5 to two goals in the last minute of a gripping encounter. Then, in Saturday’s semi-final, Singapore got its revenge in similarly dramatic fashion. The host nation blew a 2-0 lead and when Christopher Wong put Singapore 3-2 up in the 49th minute, the shock was very much on. EJ Sebug thought he had saved the game for the defending champion when he made it 3-3 with 60 seconds left in regulation, but this time the last-gasp winner came at the other end. James Kodrowski scored for Singapore with 21 seconds on the clock to seal the country’s first ever victory over the Philippines and guarantee the team a medal. “Nobody was expecting us to win and we knew that we had nothing to lose,” defenceman Ang Yu Jin told the Philippine Daily Inquirer. Singapore’s roster is a mixture of local youth and expatriate experience. Kodrowski, who potted that semi-final winner, is a 40-year-old born in the USA. He played in the NCAA at the turn of the century and, since moving to Asia, has become a key figure on the national team. He scored heavily at last season’s Challenge Cup of Asia and was his country’s leading scorer here. Head coach Robert Martini, 31, also brings NCAA experience after captaining the University of Niagara’s team in 2011/12. The Ontario native has been coaching in Singapore since 2014/15. Among the locals, veteran defenceman Chew Wee, 40, has been on the national team since 2012/13 and plays a key role in nurturing the next generation of Singaporean talent. And there is genuine potential among the country’s youngsters. Christopher Wong is still only 17 but has played in two CCOA events and got his first international goal here in Pasay. Bryan Lee, aged 16, was the leading scorer at last season’s CCOA and contributed 3+1 this time around. And newcomer Ethan Redden, 18, was born in Singapore but has North American experience with Nicholls School in the CISAA. His debut tournament yielded 8 (6+2) points. Host nation takes bronze The Philippines came into the tournament as defending champion and, with home ice advantage, was expected to be a strong contender again. However, it found life tougher than expected in the group phase, struggling to beat Singapore before losing 1-10 to Thailand and taking second place in the five-team round robin. Then came that semi-final surprise from Singapore, sending the Eagles to the bronze medal game against Malaysia. The team’s leading player, Swiss-born Steven Fuglister, admitted after the game that the Filipinos needed to be more clinical with their chances, and they certainly learned that lesson ahead of the medal game. Fuglister scored four, matched by Kenneth Stern, as Sunday’s bronze medal game ended in a 17-1 victory over Malaysia. Fuglister, 33, is eligible to play thanks to his Filipino mother. Born in Kloten, Switzerland, he and his brother Jeffrey learned their hockey with their hometown team. Jeffrey went on to play for Switzerland at the World Juniors in 2010, while Steven spent several seasons in the top Swiss amateur league with Bulach and Winterthur before taking up a job offer in the Philippines and resuming his hockey career with the Manila Griffins and later the national team. He finished the tournament with 21 (12+9) points. Carl Montano was the leading local-born player, second in the team’s scoring with 14 (3+11). The roster also featured three teenage prospects, with 19-year-old Aro Regencia already getting game time on the first line alongside Fuglister. Plaudits for the host A bronze medal for the Philippines in the hockey tournament helped the country to top the overall medal-table in this Olympic-style multi-sport event. And success in competition was matched by a positive response to the organisation of the Games. Kindborn summed up the efforts of the host nation: “It’s been a great tournament and the hosting has been excellent. It all worked perfectly, the hotel, the transportation. The Philippines did a really good job as host.” IIHF.COM
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  46. I remember when Mexico sent pictures of their male gymnasts to the Universiade and the pictures were of the same person with the gymnasts' head pasted on them.
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