Boxing Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games

[Fly_like_a_don 1,112]

  On 10/30/2019 at 12:56 PM, Shravan Kumar said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/boxing/olympic-boxing-trials-new-judging-system-to-regain-trust/amp_articleshow/71807574.cms

So guys what do you think of the new scoring system.

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This is the best thing imo and maybe I'll watch boxing if they show scores live which I'm sure they will. 

 

There is always a chance that even if a boxer dominates first 2 rounds, and establishes 6-7 points lead, the opponent can come back and win in 3rd round. 

[heywoodu 15,341]

  On 10/30/2019 at 1:48 PM, Fly_like_a_don said:

This is the best thing imo and maybe I'll watch boxing if they show scores live which I'm sure they will. 

 

There is always a chance that even if a boxer dominates first 2 rounds, and establishes 6-7 points lead, the opponent can come back and win in 3rd round. 

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Not sure if literally only blows counting is such a good thing (so someone with 50 relatively light blows would beat someone with 25 really hard blows, even if the latter would be the more dominant one because of his heavy hitting).

[Dragon 1,894]

The 2016 system was based on 9 decisions, 3 by each judge. If only 2 of those 9 were totally stupid then the result could be affected.

With the new system they could be making 60 decisions every round. Far harder to make really bad decisions.

[dodge 1,027]

  On 10/30/2019 at 1:37 PM, MHSN said:

 

This is a very good news but I didn't like this part

 

"Watanabe said the taskforce is considering whether the screen should be visible by the audience as well as judges and referees"

 

unbelievable if they are even thinking about not showing the score to the audience, TV or even the boxers !

 

 

 

 

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I assume the discussions are whether the scores are showed "immediately" as the article indicates or at the end of each round. 

[Dunadan 1,103]

If Ii remember correctly in 2012 they were using this system with scores only shown at the end of each round (unlike 2008 and earlier when live scores were shown) and it wasn't good at all, with a lot of controversies.

[phelps 7,807]

(until) Seoul 1988: the good old 5 judges, scoring bouts "like the pros"...the worst Olympic Boxing scandal ever...

 

 

London 2012...the devilish scoring machines...the second worst Olympic Boxing scandal ever...

 

 

Rio 2016...the latest scoring system (3 judges, scoring the bout on a 10-pt scale, like the pros)...just another oscenity...

 

 

 

you can change the scoring system as many times as you want, but this is not the problem of boxing (and especially Olympic Boxing)...

 

the real problem are the men in charge, who are always at least biased, when often not truly corrupted...

 

until there is a single man coming from the old establishment, there's no way we're going to have a clean boxing tournament at the Olympics...

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by phelps

[nitinsanker 202]

IMHO

 

1) currently the scoring system is the most opaque system where there is absolutely no sense why the bout is given to the BLUE Or RED corner.... . so any change is good 

 

2) The judges have absolute power to score and there is no check pts ...... so showing the scores live with a certain number of referrals would help....... Any corruption would show up easily

 

3) The problem with the pt based scoring system..... Boxers started adopting a high shell guard and  boxers would just crouch and occasionally poke at others......bouts started resembling two turtles ? hitting each other... 

 

So 

+es and -es........ But far more positives than negatives 

 

 

[heywoodu 15,341]

Oh well, if you don't agree with the score you can always just pay, protest and 'win' anyway  

[ATHENS 1896 15]

Is there any information available on the draw process of Continental Qualification tournaments?

Is there any qualification standard, will be simple KO  tournament and most important: Is there going to be any seeding for the draw - if yes on which criteria?

[ATHENS 1896 15]

What are the technical and competition rules to be used in the qualification events and in the Olympic Games?

In essence, the AIBA competition rules will be respected. Any changes and/or adaptation to these rules will be limited to those without a direct impact on the athletes’ preparation and will be communicated by 14 November 2019.

 

source: https://boxing.athlete365.org/faq/

 

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