If LA 1984 Olympics were not boycotted, what would have been the results?

[phelps 6,895]

On 1/29/2023 at 6:46 PM, rafalgorka said:

And wrestling greco-Roman events on day 5 in LA??

this is what I could find about it...

 

Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 52kg: URS / BUL / JPN (but ROU was a better wrestler in the years immediately before and after, despite losing to JPN in the early stages in LA).

 

Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 74kg: this is really a mess...

there are at least 2 legitimate people who were better than the rest in that period, URS & SWE; then, FIN, POL, BUL and ROU have exchanged places on the podium in the main tournaments of those years.
so, we can reasonably say URS / SWE and then you can flip the coin for bronze.
all this, despite the actual medals of the 2 events at the center of our poll.

 

Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's +100kg: you can go with the FR Games podium here: BUL / CUB / URS (even if URS was definitely better than the Cuban in those years, who finished ahead of him most likely because of a favourable draw).

[rafalgorka 1,386]

Day 5 continued.

 

Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 52kg

 

1. Benur Pashayan URS FR1

2. Velin Dogandiysky BUL FR2

3. Atsuji Miyahira JPN LA1

 

Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 74 kg

 

1. Mikhail Mamiashvili URS FR1

2. Jouko Salomaki FIN LA1

3. Roger Tallroth SWE LA2

 

Wresling Greco-Roman - Men's +100kg

 

1. Nikola Dinev BUL FR1

2. Candido Mesa CUB FR2

3. Evgeni Artyukhin URS FR3

 

I listened to phelps here.

The only change is that in this simulation I assumpt that sb who was 2nd in LA can't beat LA champion (and sb who was 2nd in FR can't be FR Champ_ That's why there is silver for FIN and bronze for SWE in 74kg cat.

 

No medals for POL in wrestling today, although Roman Kierpacz was 3rd and Andrzej Supron was 2nd in FR, 52 and 74kg respectively.

[rafalgorka 1,386]

Medal table after Day 5, part 2 (47 events)

 

15-9-11---35

13-5-8---26

6-5-1---12

4-12-5---21

2-3-1---6

2-2-2---6

2-2-1---5

2-1-1---4

1-0-0---1

0-2-4---6

0-2-3---5

0-1-4---5

0-1-1---2

0-1-0---1

0-1-0---1

0-0-2---2

0-0-2---2
0-0-1---1

0-0-1---1

 

[rafalgorka 1,386]

The last event of day 5

 

Weightlifting - Men's 75 kg (Middlewewight)

 

1. Zdravko Stoichkov BUL 377.5 kg FR1

2. Vladimir Kuznetsov URS 362.5 kg FR2

 

and there is a problem with bronze medal because we have a tie:

 

Istvan Messzi HUN 340 kg FR3

Karl-Heinz Radschinsky FRG 340 kg LA1

 

Radschinsky body-weight in LA was 74.30 kg

can't find Messzi body-weight in FR, but in Seoul 1988 he got silver in 82.5 kg category

 

No good solution here, but I think in ties like here we can be in favour of the real LA olympic champion

 

So:

 

1. BUL 2. URS 3. FRG here

 

 

[rafalgorka 1,386]

Medal table after Day 5 (48 events)

 

15-10-11---36

13-5-8---26

7-5-1---13

4-12-5---21

2-3-1---6

2-2-3---7

2-2-1---5

2-1-1---4

1-0-0---1

0-2-4---6

0-2-3---5

0-1-4---5

0-1-1---2

0-1-0---1

0-1-0---1

0-0-2---2

0-0-2---2
0-0-1---1

0-0-1---1

[rafalgorka 1,386]

So after Day 5 USSR in leading medal table and they have 10 (!!!) more medals in total than hosts USA. I wonder of this could really happen on US soil and how much exciment would it make both in US and USSR back in '84.

 

BUL is having extraordinary olympics, 7 golds in 5 days.

 

Still no gold for China.

 

Sweden, Finland, Japan and Cuba among new countries who get their first medals on day 5.

 

Poland with 2 medals only, both in shooting, but another 2 medals in wrestling were very close on day 5. No gold for Poland yet.

 

Romania (who had super olympics in LA) so far with 2 bronze medals only.

Edited February 4, 2023 by rafalgorka

[rafalgorka 1,386]

There will be plenty of action on Day 6

 

Athletics - M 20km Walk

Athletics - W Shot Put

Cycling Track - M Sprint

Cycling Track - M Team Pursuit

Cycling Track - M Points Race

Equestrian - Individual Eventing

Equestrian - Team Eventing

Fencing - W Individual Foil

Gymnastics Artistic - W Individual All-Around

Shooting - M 10m Air Rifle

Shooting - W 50m Rifle Three Positions

Swimming - M 100m Backstroke

Swimming - M 200m Butterfly

Swimming - W 800m Freestyle

Swimming - W 200m Individual Medley

Swimming - W 4x100m Medley Relay

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 57kg

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 68kg

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 82kg

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 100kg

[Dragon 1,704]

5 hours ago, rafalgorka said:

There will be plenty of action on Day 6

 

Athletics - M 20km Walk

Athletics - W Shot Put

Cycling Track - M Sprint

Cycling Track - M Team Pursuit

Cycling Track - M Points Race

Equestrian - Individual Eventing

Equestrian - Team Eventing

Fencing - W Individual Foil

Gymnastics Artistic - W Individual All-Around

Shooting - M 10m Air Rifle

Shooting - W 50m Rifle Three Positions

Swimming - M 100m Backstroke

Swimming - M 200m Butterfly

Swimming - W 800m Freestyle

Swimming - W 200m Individual Medley

Swimming - W 4x100m Medley Relay

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 57kg

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 68kg

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 82kg

Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 100kg

In eventing I doubt if any of the boycotting countries would have finished in the top 15.

[rafalgorka 1,386]

Day 6, part one

 

ATHLETICS - W Shot Put

 

1. Natalya Lisovskaya URS 21.96 FR1

2. Helena Fibingerova TCH 21.33 FR2

3. Nunu Abashidze URS 21.18 FR3

 

SHOOTING - M 10m Air Rifle

 

1. Andreas Wolfram GDR 591 FR1

2. Philippe Heberle FRA 589 LA1

3. Andreas Kronthaler AUT 587 (shoot-off 36) LA2

 

SHOOTING - W 50m Rifle Three Positions

 

1. Marlies Ray-Helbig GDR 583 FR1

2. Wu Xiaoxuan CHN 581 LA1

3. Lessia Leskiv URS 579 FR2

 

SWIMMING - M 100m Backstroke

 

1. Dirk Richter GDR 55.67 FR1

2. Rick Carey USA 55.79 LA1

3. Vladimir Shemetov URS 55.88 FR2

 

SWIMMING - M 200m Butterfly

 

1. Jon Sieben AUS 1.57.04 LA1 WR

2. Michael Gross FRG 1.57.40 LA2

3. Rafael Vidal VEN 1.57.51 LA3

 

An epic race that was

 

SWIMMING - W 800m Freestyle

 

1. Astrid Strauss GDR 8.24.95 FR1

2. Tiffany Cohen USA 8.24.96 LA1

3. Michele Richardson USA 8.30.73 LA2

 

That would be a win by 0,01 sec in 800m free!!! Just wow.

But if they swam together in the same race the result could be different obviously

 

SWIMMING - W 200m Individual Medley

 

1. Ute Geweniger GDR 2.11.79 FR1

2. Tracy Caulkins USA 2.12.64 LA1

3. Yelena Dendeberova URS 2.14.56 FR2

 

SWIMMING - W 4x100m Medley Relay

 

1. GDR 4.03.69 FR1 WR

2. URS 4.08.13 FR2

3. USA 4.08.34 LA1

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Medal table after Day 6, part one (56 events)

 

16-11-15---42

13-8-10---31

10-12-5---27

7-5-1---13

2-3-3---8

2-3-1---6

2-2-1---5

2-1-1---4

1-2-4---7

1-0-0---1

0-3-3---6

0-2-4---6

0-1-1---2

0-1-0---1

0-1-0---1

0-1-0---1

0-0-2---2

0-0-2---2

0-0-1---1
0-0-1---1

0-0-1---1

0-0-1---1