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18 hours ago, Illya said:

how polarizing the Brazilian community is to LGBTQ+ people. 

What do you mean?

 

or did you write the adjectives in the wrong order?

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Olimpia Awards in  (most traditional sport awards ceremony here, with over 60 editions already).

 

The top award ("olimpia de oro") for 2023 was shared between Belen Casetta (athletics, steeplechase, gold medal in pan american games) and Lionel Messi (for who knows what).

 

Third win a row for Messi and fourth overall for him. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, phelps said:

sure! US doctors and managers (but it's the same for the Europeans taking advantage of the Africans in distance running), but an athlete coming from a small Nation with no other chance to improve his life (and his family's) than succeding in sport

 

that's the perfect 

"No other chance" his parents are US college graduates, don't think he was living in a hut. 

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Federico Bruno (ARG, 1500/5000m runner) positive for EPO. 

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Julia Ituma, volleyball player from Italy.

 

Apparently suicide. She was 18. 

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RIP Ángel Fournier 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Monzanator said:

Olympic Committee has stripped the funding for two cyclists and three tennis players for competing on the same tour as Russians. For Ostapenko it's 1,700 Euro which is laughable for her standards of WTA purse but it's bad news for the ITF-level compatriots Vismane and Semenistaja who don't make a great living playing ITFs all the time

 

 

 

"You're not allowed to breath the same air as russians, quit your job if necessary" 

  

Madness has become absolute in the baltics  

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I'm not familiar with most of those games but I guess the idea was to pick the most "realistic" videogames that have to do with some of the sports under the umbrella of a IOC recognized IF.   

  

They must have wanted to avoid something like ISSF organizing a competition of a FPS game with cartoon characters or people dying of headshots  

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1 hour ago, rafalgorka said:

https://www.sport.pl/sport/7,65025,29470890,dopuszczenie-rosjan-do-igrzysk-to-nie-naiwnosc-to-mierzony.html#s=SNO_Img_1

 

an interesting text imo

 

Here is Google Translate:

 

Allowing Russians to participate in the Games is not naive. It's a measured punch with deep purpose
  Michal Kiedrowski 16.02.2023 13:35
When I hear Kamil Bortniczuk say: "The International Olympic Committee sins with naivety", I am sure that the Minister of Sport does not really understand what is at stake at all – comments Michał Kiedrowski from Sport.pl.

Kamil Bortniczuk talked about naivety in the context of the idea of allowing athletes from Russia and Belarus to participate in the Games under a neutral Olympic flag. And here, of course, I agree with the Minister of Sport that this is fiction. The neutral flag under which Russian athletes performed during the Winter Games in Beijing did not bother Russian President Vladimir Putin. He applauded his compatriots from the stands, and also used the athletes for propaganda during a rally at the Luzhniki stadium in Moscow. This event was one big manifesto of support for aggression against Ukraine.

But I do not agree with the suggestion that the IOC and President Thomas Bach were unaware of this. If someone has already climbed such a function in the Olympic movement, he must know this world and its rules from the inside out. And if I had to choose the qualities most useful for this, it would be: cynicism and hypocrisy, not naivety.
The global south does not look who is the aggressor and who is the victim

I think that both for Bach and for the vast majority of IOC members there is no doubt that it is impossible to reconcile the participation of Russians in the Games with the message of peace. But that's not the point. It is not even about Russia itself, but about showing who is in charge here, or rather, strictly speaking, that the West is no longer in charge. It is not Bach himself who is behind the admission of the Russians to the Games, but the entire coalition of countries - one can guess - with China at the forefront. After all, it was from Asia that the initiative for the Russians to take part in the Asian qualifications for the Games came from. It is in India that the World Women's Boxing Championships will be held in March, during which Russian women will perform both under their flag and with their anthem. It will be the same at the World Boxing Championships in Tashkent in May. All because the boxing federation is ruled by Umar Kremlin - Putin's trusted man.

Poland, together with the Czech Republic, Canada, the USA, Great Britain, Sweden, Ireland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia decided to boycott the event. In response, the authorities of the boxing federation proposed that all boxers from these countries be allowed to compete, regardless of the decisions of the national associations. They even promise to cover the costs.

Russian boxers have already performed under their flag in the recent World Boxing Tour Golden Belt Series tournament in Marrakech. As you can see, Moroccans don't mind Russian crimes against Ukrainians either. And here it is worth listening to what political scientists, such as Michał Lubina from the Jagiellonian University, say: "China managed to present this war in pro-Western countries as an intra-European conflict, a local proxy war of the West with Russia. This is how the Third World, i.e. the global south, thinks about it. who is indifferent to this war. He dislikes Americans more than he sees who is the aggressor and who is the victim."

We don't have a lever. The Chinese comrades will gladly replace us

It's brutal but true. If we look at the activities of the Olympic movement in this way, they are completely legible. Countries that are not Westerners are outraged by the moral blackmail that the Americans and their allies are exerting on them. Especially since we, as the West, have no leverage. European companies cannot say to the IOC: we will not pay you a broken euro if you do not respect our values. Olympic officials will just shrug: it's okay, you pay us almost nothing anyway. Chinese comrades will gladly replace you.

Western politicians should open their eyes. This is not naivety, but a calculated act. Anyway, let's look further. Not only at the IOC. Take the International Football Federation (FIFA). It is also where the influence of autocratic regimes is growing, which shows at every turn: the West no longer rules. The whole of European football depends on the money that flows to it from China and Arab states for television rights and sponsorship. For Asian fans, matches in England, Italy or Spain are scheduled for early afternoon hours on weekends. Due to fans from that region of the world, the Champions League final was moved from Wednesday to Saturday. The most influential man in European football is the Qatari Nasser Al-Khelaifi: not only the president of PSG, but also the CEO of beIN Media Group, as well as the head of the Association of European Clubs. The most sponsors of the European Championships are from China. Saudi Arabia even sponsored the Women's World Cup, much to the outrage of all human rights activists.

 

The World Cup in Qatar was a breakthrough: now we can do it all

The World Cup in Qatar became a breakthrough. Not only did they succeed, but they also turned out to be a great success. In addition, despite the fact that the hosts on many issues - such as allowing the sale of beer with percentages or rainbow bands - stood their ground against the protests of public opinion in the West. Indignation at each other, and fans delighted with the World Cup itself. FIFA boss Gianni Infantino can say to his colleagues what Bolo in "Football Poker" said to the Laguna referee: Now we can do it all, the biggest numbers in the world.

The Qatari people, whose emir had a friendly talk with Putin even before the start of the World Cup, did not wait long. They have already treated the workers brought from abroad to service the World Cup out of hand. Saudi Arabia won the Club World Cup. Another World Cup in the Persian Gulf, built by low-paid workers who are exploited beyond their means, seems a foregone conclusion. The Saudis want to organize it together with Egypt and Greece in 2030.

 

If the West wants the sporting world to continue to respect its ideals, it must have a new FIFA and a new IOC. In the old ones it will mean less and less. In Asia, they believe that the future center of the world lies there, and they will use every opportunity to show how little Europe and the United States matter anymore.

I will repeat again. The participation of Russians and Belarusians in the Games in Paris is no naivety, no pro-Russian sympathies, it is simply an opportunity to say: the West no longer has power.

 

So, the proposed solution is a new IOC with only "western" countries? lol

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Well, Korea and Vietnam had 3 million casualties each so not exactly a pub fight.

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As long as USA and China are on board, you can get the games running. IOC can tank anything else financially speaking.  

  

 

   

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18 hours ago, LowerSaxony said:

That might be true to some degree.. but the difference to all wars somewhere in the world in recent history is that one land is stealing territory from another here.

Not really, palestinians for ex. also claim someone stole their land, many other wars have the same basic motive as well. The main difference is that the ukrainian goverment has more consensus in the world about being the legitimate owner of the disputed territories. 

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Russia won't be allowed as long as it isn't financially profitable for IOC, that's about it. IOC doesn't care about any other reasons (human rights, deaths, etc are not their real concern).

  

If NATO countries won't participate as long as there are russian athletes, then Russia won't ever come back. IOC are not dumb, they know who is their main cash cow. 

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Most remembered, good question...  

   

1. Winning the gold in football and basketball the same day in Athens ending a 52 year gold medal drought. Undisputed number one in my view, it's remembered almost every year on TV and social media.

  

2. Defeating USA in the same tournament mentioned above.   

  

3. Del Potro's crazy run to the final in 2016 while he had virtually no world ranking.  

  

4. The volleyball medals in 88 and last year. For a week it became the most popular sport. 

  

5. The 1932 marathon win of Juan Carlos Zabala was very popular at the time. Even biopics were made about him. 

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2 hours ago, mrv86 said:

I’m curious: what would your position is if people started using “Saint Dominic/Santo Domingo” instead of “Dominican Republic/República Dominicana”.

 

Moreover, would it be too weird to use “Río de la Plata/River Plate” instead of “Argentina”?

Argentina is an adjective that has "evolved" into a noun, there's no problem there. The english used to call it "the argentine" in the XIX century, personally wouldn't care if they kept doing that, it's their language after all.     

  

About RD, if they were simply called "dominicana" it would be easier. But there is already Dominica, so perhaps it would cause more trouble than good for everyone in that case.  

  

 

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Well, I do support the Czechia change since almost every country in the world is officially called "the republic of x" or "the y republic" so it didn't make much sense for everyone to address the czech especifically like that.   

  

However all Turkiye, Qazakstan, Cymru stuff is ridiculous, just accept your english name for international events lol, don't try that hard to be a snowflake. 

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The other day I heard a journalist say our entire sports budget is the same as the budget of brazilian swimming. 

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Tbf with team sports, it's only volleyball and water polo that have that problem, the rest are perfectly fine as they are (in the sense that all have at least one competitive enough team per continent). 

 

Women's football tournament is still not ideally shaped but since football is such a popular sport and women's game is evolving fast I'm sure even the most uncompetitive confederations will improve drastically in the next few cycles. 

Edited October 21, 2022 by LDOG

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45 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

It's not often one sees Bach making a statement that makes at least sort of sense.

 

lol it would be preferable to just keep them all banned instead of this PR bullshit. 

  

They wouldn't dare to condition chinese athletes participation on them stating opposition to the CCP ethnic cleansing. Or athletes from certain islamic countries if they support jailing/killing gay people. (Of course not since China and oil states bring in much more money than Russia)

 

Just keep all the russians banned, don't turn IOC into thought police. 

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by LDOG

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8 minutes ago, hckošice said:

That is surprising to read

At least that's what World Rugby claims  though I suspect Cricket World Cup may have a say in that. 

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7 hours ago, Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo said:

Summer tour are more important than olympic games? C'mon, it's a joke... if you don't like a 3 rounds tournament, is possible ti made 2 groups, 4 teams each one. The first can play final, the second bronze medal game. Are 4 matches, in 20 days. Not so easy, but is possible. TUE (before games)-MON-SUN and SUN

 

While I like the formats you propose, De_Gambassi is unfortunately right. The rugby championship starts in early August and it's the main source of income for AUS/ARG/NZ/SA.  

  

Also, players need some vacations. All our players are in Europe now, so if they can't rest in July they don't ever have a holiday.   

  

And more important, World Rugby is just like FIFA, they want their World Cup to be the main event. Commercially it's the 2nd most succesful world championship event after the football one.

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Just remove Breaking and 3x3 Basketball.  

 

No new sport to add for me.

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Bring back the duos in slalom canoeing and the double trap.  

  

Also feel like trampoline gymnastics deserve a larger presence even if I would prefer adding acrobatics.

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1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said:

She could have been both a swimmer and an influencer if she wanted. Rebeca Andrade is now an influencer and fashion icon in Brazil, she now has a fortune of more than 1 million dollars, and still she keeps training and has plans to compete at the World Championships this year and in Paris 2024.

Does she stream on twitch on semi regular basis tho? Because that's the kind of stuff this girl was doing  other than befriending garbage popular musicians and streaming celebrities.

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34 minutes ago, NMQ said:

22yo  Delfina Pignatiello announced her retirement on Instagram. Will keep swimming but not at competitions. Wants to focus on other things out of the pool.

 

A real shame. She is a 2x world junior champion, 2x YOG medalist and 3x pan american champion, multiple SA record holder as well. She was probably our best talent of the last few years sport by sport. But she didn't cope well with the pressure, the hate on social media and an extended quarantine that hurt her preparation for the Olympics. IMO also made some questionable decisions, like not going to the NCAA to stay home or changing her long time coach. Hope she makes a comeback in a few years, but she seems happier with her other activities.

She hasn't been a serious athlete for like 3 years already IMO, the pandemic excuse was a bit of a deflection. More interested in a career as "influencer" and all that.   

Well, at least she'll be making much more money in that, that's for sure.