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bestmen    784
5 hours ago, NikolaB said:

But leftists who started a couple of international wars were good solution? Orban is truly European and his motto "Europe for Europeans" is totally ok for me

 

i'm OK with this and the African richness is for Africa , all the european companies should leave

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lapaj    47

Europe is safe from the direction of Hungary for four more years. It's ok, because the lefties promised they would turn back everything which was created by the Fidesz. So the lefties destroyed themselves. But for Hungary there was no good solutions. There was bad, worse and worst solutions.

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NikolaB    200
7 hours ago, Agger said:

 

Not for the ones defending the liberal democracy ... :mumble:

Who cares for them

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lapaj    47

Is it not a liberal democracy if not a liberal party win an election?

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Agger    325
1 hour ago, NikolaB said:

Who cares for them

 

You don't mind a state that take away civil land political liberties?
This is about defending the rights of people who disagree with the government.

 

27 minutes ago, lapaj said:

Is it not a liberal democracy if not a liberal party win an election?

 

It has nothing to do with liberal, socialist or conservative parties. It is about civil and political rights.

Hungary is among the countries who have worsened the most in their Freedom House rankings, where especially political rights have gone down a lot since 2014. Back then they were at a 1 out of 7 (lowest is best), now they're at 3 out of 7.

But then again. That's just western propaganda, I guess...

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heywoodu    2,701
32 minutes ago, Agger said:

But then again. That's just western propaganda, I guess...

Bad news about Eastern European/Russian/Chinese world: Western propaganda

Good news about Eastern European/Russian/Chinese world: Eastern European/Russian/Chinese propaganda

Bad news about Western world: Eastern European/Russian/Chinese propaganda

Good news about Western world: Western propaganda

 

Everything is propaganda from everyone about everyone nowadays :d 

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FC Mezhgorye    112
1 час назад, heywoodu сказал:

Bad news about Eastern European/Russian/Chinese world: Western propaganda

Good news about Eastern European/Russian/Chinese world: Eastern European/Russian/Chinese propaganda

Bad news about Western world: Eastern European/Russian/Chinese propaganda

Good news about Western world: Western propaganda

 

Everything is propaganda from everyone about everyone nowadays :d 

but the funniest thing is that everyone has the Internet. Any news can be checked, you only need to spend a few hours to check almost any news, finding all the opinions for and against, even ask the eyewitnesses, writing them on the social network. But people still remained quite lazy and just believe any news inside their country.

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lapaj    47
10 hours ago, Agger said:

 

It has nothing to do with liberal, socialist or conservative parties. It is about civil and political rights.

Hungary is among the countries who have worsened the most in their Freedom House rankings, where especially political rights have gone down a lot since 2014. Back then they were at a 1 out of 7 (lowest is best), now they're at 3 out of 7.

But then again. That's just western propaganda, I guess...

You wrote the victory of the Fidesz is a bad news to the liberal democracy. If a socialist, a right wing or their coalition won the election that would be a good to the liberal democracy? That would be good to Hungary's ranking? 

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Agger    325
2 hours ago, lapaj said:

You wrote the victory of the Fidesz is a bad news to the liberal democracy. If a socialist, a right wing or their coalition won the election that would be a good to the liberal democracy? That would be good to Hungary's ranking? 

 

Whatever party that rolls back some of the rules that have restricted the political rights would be good for the liberal democracy.

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lapaj    47
4 hours ago, Agger said:

 

Whatever party that rolls back some of the rules that have restricted the political rights would be good for the liberal democracy.

Which political right is restricted in Hungary?

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Dmitry    32

Looks like it will be necessary to change Swaziland to eSwatini

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heywoodu    2,701

Kim Jong-un is in South Korea :cheer:

 

He also convinced Moon to take a step into North Korea before both headed back to the South and started their walk to the negotiating building :p

 

 

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