MHSN

IWF updated its website quickly. you can see the list of qualified athletes here

https://iwf.sport/qualif2024/P2024_Qualification/

just note that the magician Djuraev will compete at 102kg, you can remove him from +102kg ranking

23 minutes ago, phelps said:

well, imho, as explained in the article, nobody did OK

 

they missed the first call for Bayramov (6 pts instead of 4), then in the final minute they didn't give Chamizo at least 1 takedown and the 4-pt takedown which could easily have been called a PIN before the final shame of the last action

 

I mean, the match shouldn't even have been close in the end (and that would have avoided the final embarassment)

sorry but both of those calls were correct or at least not wrong, Chamizo stepped on Bayramov's foot before that annulled takedown. yes I know they are not usually strict about this. but that's the rule and of course in Baku they would be strict in favor of the host wrestler. and if you watch it again, both other refs gave 2pts to Chamizo and didn't notice the legs. the mat chairman (who wanted AZE to win so badly) noticed that and talked other two refs into changing their decision. there was a reason why Chamizo didn't challenge that call. he knew that was a foul if we go by the book

and that "pin" action. the ref below the whistle a moment before the action. I totally understand that was bad luck for Chamizo but I'm pretty sure that was just a honest mistake by the ref. that happened too fast and he has to caution/penalty Bayramov. I wish he could wait half a second more but he didn't. the action happened after/during the whistle. shouldn't be counted.

and the first call which was obviously a mistake. I didn't see center ref giving 4+2. I only saw a 4 (and then they changed the camera angel) only the judge made that mistake. that was a huge mistake anyway. actions like that CAN NOT be scored 4+2. that's either 4 or 2+2.  you can never score 4+2 in one action.

to me there were 3 or maybe 4 big mistakes in this match, I can give a pass to the refs for two of them, but that 6pts at the beginning and the last call were crystal clear. cancelling those 2pts after watching the video was intentional cheating. 

I would call this match 11-6 for Chamizo (or 3 cautions disqualification for Bayramov)

10 minutes ago, phelps said:

I think our President was talking of the mat ref and the other 2 side ref, not of the VAR criminal (however, they all should be banned for life from any wrestling activity)

well actually the center referee and the judge did OK, they had some mistakes but it happens. most of UWW refs have a low level of IQ. the problem was mostly with the mat chairman (I couldn't recognize him by his face) 

even in the last action, he tried to change the decision of other two refs about giving 2pts to Chamizo but failed.

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

Feel like our athlete was robbed, but congrats anyways 

 

We deserve it after what happened yesterday with Kafadar. 

why ? 

both yesterday call and today call was correct IMO

in taekwondo, even 1 second is too much

2024 Asian Championship, Freestyle brackets are out

https://arena.uww.org/weight-category/1eee02d6-2759-659e-9ff0-c71089015e53

thanks to UWW its far from the highest level of competition in Asia . most countries are fielding B teams in Olympic weights because of the Asian QT. still we can see some very big names who already qualified for the Olympics in the start list including 10 current World Champions

I checked the entry list of Asian Champs and Asian OQT and except very weak countries (like SGP , IRQ etc) there are only few wrestlers in both tournaments,

obviously Asian top wrestling nations have enough money to send two different teams. 

6 hours ago, phelps said:

according to the Italian Wrestling Federation's President, the infamous match involving Frank Chamizo has had some consequence already...

 

the whole crew that was refereeing that bout has been excluded from the Olympics 

 

which basically it's a pure and simple confession that more than something went wrong on sunday afternoon

sorry but nobody touches Ibrahim Cicioglu. he is one of them. 

the last call was clear as crystal yet Mr Cici and his assistant Bouaziz said something else.

43 minutes ago, phelps said:

men's -109kg

 

Gold:  Akbar Djuraev (total: 416kg)

Full Results

https://iwf.sport/results/results-by-events/?event_id=599

 this guy knows magic or maybe something better

he weighted 101.7 kg during the Asian Champ in his home country when he secured his quota. but how is the even possible ? he was never anywhere near that weight. but all of a sudden he dropped 7kg and made a good total and then gained that 7kg back ?  if that's not magic, then what it is ?

https://iwf.sport/weightlifting_/athletes-bios/?athlete=djuraev-akbar-1999-10-08&id=14360

Last Chance World Qualifier entries

https://arena.uww.org/weight-category/1eef6f73-073e-67fe-ad74-231b2e1b0fdb

this list is probably only accurate for non-Asian countries but for the Asian NOCs it's mostly a cope/paste from their Asian Qualifier entries. for example I know Iran will send a different team if the AQT team fails. 

9 minutes ago, phelps said:

it didn't go according to plan, unfortunately  only 387kg for him

Because we have a f.. idiot as coach, they couldn't even calculate, Dehdar needed 213 but they went for 214 and he missed it by the narrowest possible margin. 1 kilo made a huge difference here and why the hell they started with 208 when they knew he needed 213? 

and Dehdar was supposed to be the CJ specialist. his plan was to lift 220 here but I think that was too much pressure for him to handle. 

102kg Group B didn't go the way I preferred 

two more athletes surpassed the 391kg mark and that will kick our guy Dehdar out of top 10! now he needs to do something to qualify. kind of funny because at the start of this qualification period, he was our 3rd guy and nobody cared about him, now #1 and #2 are out and he is our last chance for the quota in this weight

how the hell Hasanbayev (TKM) improved this much in a short period of time ?  yeah I'm thinking about the same thing

but TKM already has 3 doping bans (all of them less than 4 years of suspension) the rules are not clear in this case. it says the independent panel may withdraw some or all of  the quota places

not sure what "may withdraw" means  the rules should be clear.

speaking of Chamizo, that was one of his best matches at 74kg. he didn't wrestle a good match like this for a while. I mean he was down 6-0 ( to me that was 4pts but they gave 4+2) I was 100% sure the match is over but he wrestled his heart out and if the officiating was normal he could be leading by 3-4 pts before the last action (where he again got robbed) 

Chamizo in morning session was terrible but from what I saw in the evening I think he will win the quota eventually. he is quite a popular wrestler (because of his unique style) and I'm sure most (if not all) of wrestling fans want to see him in Paris.

but this is a very competitive weight, lots of solid wrestlers are left. Salkazanov, Demirtas, Kirov also had a good tournament today. whoever GEO sends, Kuramagomedov, Shapiev, that Russian guy of Romania was good too

and there will be some good Asian wrestlers left too. at least 2 or 3.

beside that, Albania and Tajikistan are purchasing some good Russian wrestlers (Veliev and Rassadin) I think they are still doing the paperwork but that can be finished anytime, Uzbekistan also hired a very high level Russian in Zhamalov. 

no more surprises, the rest of the afternoon went as expected. looking back at my predictions, I was mostly wrong in Greco, only got 5 out of 12 correctly but that was expected,

in freestyle it could be 10 out of 12. but that Chamizo match happened, so 9 of 12. I only missed one in 65kg and 97kg. Baitsaev was in terrible shape and I think my 65kg prediction wasn't that bad.

it's not a good news that only 4 countries won all the quotas ! (and Europe was supposed to be more competitive) two teams are already completed.  Russia and  Azerbaijan. they both won all 6 MFS quotas. beside that only USA and Japan in women's freestyle have a full team now. (no full team in Greco yet)

Belarus also had a great day, winning 4 quotas they could even win the 65kg too, but 86kg was too weak to be considered.  beside that only Georgia has 3 and the rest of Europe have 2 or less.

Turkey lost badly today but I think they will be prepared for the last event at home

no surprise in 86kg either

Naifonov winning the quota was a 100% sure thing, I almost fell sleep during the match 

but Mykhailov could do better against Nurmagomedov. but his wrong tactical plan cost him the quota. he grabbed the leg so many times in the last minute but it was too late.

So ... Azerbaijan didn't win a single quota on Friday and Saturday but today was different, 4 of 4 so far and I think they will win the 5th too. which means they will have a full team in Paris, (97kg quota was already in the bag)

Kadimagomedov won the battle of Russian mercenaries to win the 2nd quota. this guy is very dangerous even when he is not in a good shape like today. 

so far, so good for Azerbaijan and Belarus

6 minutes ago, avlar said:

Is there any chance to protest?

nope

whatever Cicioglu (the guy who reviews the challenge) says is final

that's robbery of the year  someone got richer tonight

wrestling can be weird sometimes, IMO Dzebisashvili was maybe the worst wrestler of that half bracket but he somehow managed to win matches, beating Arushanian by a last second takedown and then Sacultan 1-1 only by passivity cautions. 

interesting that while other Georgian wrestlers are losing , he won the quota as the worst member of the team 

and in the 2nd semifinal, Haji Aliyev had a heroic comeback in the 2nd period to beat the mercenary Russian of Albania  I was expecting him to win the quota but he suffered a lot and could lose in the QF and in the SF too. but winning close matches is what you expect from an experienced wrestler like him.

if I had to predict the entire bracket of 57kg, I could get a 100 out of 100  

not even a minor surprise here and the quotas go to Rezazade (AZE) and the Russian mercenary of Belarus Tyutrin

5 minutes ago, thepharoah said:

@MHSN do we have the final list of qualifiers for Women's -71 kg ? 

I wasn't paying attention  watching something else today

1 hour ago, Adriano said:

Other Baran could start in second tournament (it was an idea in this category).

 

For me Baran in -97kg should not be involved in this kind of situation during winning 9-0. (it was a chance to end this fight quicker). During second tournament we will have Baranowski. (But chance for quota was so big here). I am afraid of not having polish male wrestler at OG. 

yeah that was stupid of him to try actions like this when he was leading comfortably. the match could end comfortably in the first period. 

regarding the last chance qualifier, when we talk about men's freestyle it's only about Europe and Asia (plus couple of American wrestlers at 57 and 65) I can have a better idea about the possible favorites after the Asian qualifier but I think 97kg and 125kg won't be that strong in Turkey. everything is possible with 3 quotas available there. you still have a chance in 3 heavier weights

hopefully we won't have to send anybody there  but I know that's wishful thinking

50 minutes ago, copravolley said:

How do you see Chamizo chances against Bayramov in 1/2?

hard to tell, none of them impressed me today, interestingly both of them relied on counter attacks to score points, so I expect a low scoring tactical match which will be in Chamizo's favor because he is smarter.  I think Bayramov's strategy will determine the winner, let's see if he falls in Chamizo's trap or not.

I think it's 51/49 for Chamizo

3 minutes ago, Adriano said:

Baran in -97kg is injured - quota for AIN.

ah , that's a shame , he was in too much pain after the match but I was hoping maybe he can recover for the evening session , it sucks big time to get injured in a match you won by superiority 

he looked very good, I would considered him the favorite vs Hushtyn

Poland still has a chance at 125kg, I missed this guy in my review mostly because I was looking for the other Baran, but he beat Ligeti handily. Belarusian will be the favorite but only slightly IMO

if Chamizo continues to wrestle like this, he is not going to win a quota today (or maybe he is saving energy ?)

his counter attacks are still deadly but you can't count on that too much against better wrestlers.

few more "favorites" like Zhabrailov or H. Aliyev struggled in their first matches. we might see some big names falling today

8 minutes ago, Adriano said:

But she wasn't sure that she should won by fall?

you think it was a fall ? no I don't think so, one of her shoulders was always on the air. if the center ref sees something even close to a fall you will see him looking at the mat chairman (to get the confirmation), that didn't happen, 

the Czech girl made some mistakes in her adjustment and let her escape the fall. that was inevitable if Hanzlickova could just keep her position. or at least she could keep her for the entire 3 minutes and let the clock burn down. but I think it's easy to say from here, things are different when you are on the mat and your entire career's dream is on the line, you make mistakes.