Rafa Maciel 1,357 Posted July 2, 2023 #41 Share Posted July 2, 2023 It does feel weird that in "traditional" Olympic sports like canoeing, NOCs are limited to 1 athlete per event and yet in the newer Olympic sports, countries are allowed multiple entries. Skateboarding for example has starting line-up of 22, so has a field size similar to that of the canoe events, and yet in skateboarding, NOCs can enter 3 athletes. Likewise sport climbing, beach volleyball, and breaking all have limited field sizes but allow multiple entries from the same country. I get the desire to have the best in the sport taking part in the Olympics, but it should apply equally across all sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamingrover86 478 Posted July 2, 2023 #42 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Are these quotas given to athletes or NOC in canoeing? If they are given to NOCs then every athlete will still have a chance to represent his/her sport in Olympics. That only seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 899 Posted July 2, 2023 #43 Share Posted July 2, 2023 How on eath this cross shit has been validated by IOC ? Did they see it or just heard the pitch from ICF ? It's only a random chaos thing with no spoting values. As @hckošiceputs it, it belongs to Jeux Sans Frontières. Nickyc707 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,241 Posted July 2, 2023 #44 Share Posted July 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said: It does feel weird that in "traditional" Olympic sports like canoeing, NOCs are limited to 1 athlete per event and yet in the newer Olympic sports, countries are allowed multiple entries. Skateboarding for example has starting line-up of 22, so has a field size similar to that of the canoe events, and yet in skateboarding, NOCs can enter 3 athletes. Likewise sport climbing, beach volleyball, and breaking all have limited field sizes but allow multiple entries from the same country. I get the desire to have the best in the sport taking part in the Olympics, but it should apply equally across all sports. The older sports come from a time when the sporting world wanted to increase diversity in events. It's difficult to create a catch-all standard, but to balance diversity and prevent low-quality entrants I think sport federations can consider a second entrant from the same nation at a field size greater than 20. The reason skateboarding has three entrants per event is because it has horrible depth. It's pretty much Brazil/Japan/United States and a sprinkle of a few nations. Breaking I am surprised has 2 athletes per nation the sport has a surprisingly amount of depth, maybe they underestimated the number of nations sending athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,241 Posted July 2, 2023 #45 Share Posted July 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Josh said: Well... this is confusing Two Villarublas competing in the same event, both representing different countries. Let me introduce you to Terese Portela and Terese Portela in canoe sprint. Gianlu33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,287 Posted July 2, 2023 #46 Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Roamingrover86 said: Are these quotas given to athletes or NOC in canoeing? If they are given to NOCs then every athlete will still have a chance to represent his/her sport in Olympics. That only seems fair. NOCs Basically all "stronger" nations are already competing their internal qualification (despite not having quotas secured) Also remember an athlete can win only 1 quota so if a double-starter finish at the worlds in K1 and C1 in qulaifiying position, the NOC will have to respond which event they pick and the quota in the other event will then go down to the next ranked country etc... Roamingrover86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge 743 Posted July 3, 2023 #47 Share Posted July 3, 2023 NOC ranking at the European Games. I expect most of these to qualify at the World Champs so the European games quota might go quite far down the list Men's K1 (Top 15 at the worlds) 1 Czech Republic 2 Switzerland 3 Great Britain 4 Austria 5 Italy 6 Slovakia 7 Spain 8 France 9 Slovenia 10 Germany 11 Poland 12 Sweden 13 Belgium 14 Ireland 15 Latvia 16 Kosovo Men's C1 (top 12 at WC) 1 Great Britain 2 Spain 3 Czechia 4 Germany 5 Slovenia 6 France 7 Poland 8 Slovakia 9 Italy 10 Croatia 11 Ireland 12 Netherlands 13 Portugal Women's C1 (Top 12) 1 Germany 2 Poland 3 Great Britain 4 Czechia 5 Slovakia 6 Slovenia 7 Italy 8 France 9 Andorra 10 Spain 11 Ukraine 12 Switzerland 13 Netherlands 14 Austria 15 Ireland 16 Croatia Women's k1 (Top 15) 1 Germany 2 Poland 3 Czech Republic 4 Slovenia 5 Austria 6 Great Britain 7 France 8 Andorra 9 Spain 10 Italy 11 Switzerland 12 Slovakia 13 Netherlands 14 Ukraine 15 Ireland 16 Croatia Benolympique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge 743 Posted July 3, 2023 #48 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Only looking at the men's but a repeat of the results at the 2022 World Championships would see the quota go to Sweden (12th) for K1 and Croatia (10th) for C1 Ireland is below them in the Euro ranks but finished ahead in the world ranks based on 2022 WC and 2023 EG K1 quotas for men; Czech, Switzerland, GB, Austria, Italy, China, Japan, Australia, Slovakia, Spain, France, Slovenia, Germany, Poland, Ireland, Sweden (EG) C1 quotas for me; GB, Spain, Czechia, Germany, Slovenia, France, Poland, Slovakia, Italy, Switzerland, USA, Ireland, Croatia (EG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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