Slalom Canoeing at the European Games 2023

[Rafa Maciel 1,737]

It does feel weird that in "traditional" Olympic sports like canoeing, NOCs are limited to 1 athlete per event and yet in the newer Olympic sports, countries are allowed multiple entries. Skateboarding for example has starting line-up of 22, so has a field size similar to that of the canoe events, and yet in skateboarding, NOCs can enter 3 athletes. Likewise sport climbing, beach volleyball, and breaking all have limited field sizes but allow multiple entries from the same country.

 

I get the desire to have the best in the sport taking part in the Olympics, but it should apply equally across all sports.   

[Roamingrover86 969]

Are these quotas given to athletes or NOC in canoeing? 
If they are given to NOCs then every athlete will still have a chance to represent his/her sport in Olympics. That only seems fair. 
 

[De_Gambassi 1,369]

How on eath this cross shit has been validated by IOC ? Did they see it or just heard the pitch from ICF ? It's only a random chaos thing with no spoting values. As @hckošiceputs it, it belongs to Jeux Sans Frontières.

[JoshMartini007 2,871]

2 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:

It does feel weird that in "traditional" Olympic sports like canoeing, NOCs are limited to 1 athlete per event and yet in the newer Olympic sports, countries are allowed multiple entries. Skateboarding for example has starting line-up of 22, so has a field size similar to that of the canoe events, and yet in skateboarding, NOCs can enter 3 athletes. Likewise sport climbing, beach volleyball, and breaking all have limited field sizes but allow multiple entries from the same country.

 

I get the desire to have the best in the sport taking part in the Olympics, but it should apply equally across all sports.   

The older sports come from a time when the sporting world wanted to increase diversity in events. It's difficult to create a catch-all standard, but to balance diversity and prevent low-quality entrants I think sport federations can consider a second entrant from the same nation at a field size greater than 20.

 

The reason skateboarding has three entrants per event is because it has horrible depth. It's pretty much Brazil/Japan/United States and a sprinkle of a few nations. Breaking I am surprised has 2 athletes per nation the sport has a surprisingly amount of depth, maybe they underestimated the number of nations sending athletes.

[JoshMartini007 2,871]

5 hours ago, Josh said:

Well... this is confusing  Two Villarublas competing in the same event, both representing different countries.  

Let me introduce you to Terese Portela and Terese Portela in canoe sprint.

[hckošice 16,645]

3 hours ago, Roamingrover86 said:

Are these quotas given to athletes or NOC in canoeing? 
If they are given to NOCs then every athlete will still have a chance to represent his/her sport in Olympics. That only seems fair. 
 

NOCs

 

Basically all "stronger" nations are already competing their internal qualification (despite not having quotas secured)

 

 

Also remember an athlete can win only 1 quota so if a double-starter finish at the worlds in K1 and C1 in qulaifiying position, the NOC will have to respond which event they pick and the quota in the other event will then go down to the next ranked country etc...

[dodge 1,041]

NOC ranking at the European Games. I expect most of these to qualify at the World Champs so the European games quota might go quite far down the list

 

Men's K1 (Top 15 at the worlds)

 

1	Czech Republic
2	Switzerland
3	Great Britain
4	Austria
5	Italy
6	Slovakia
7	Spain
8	France
9	Slovenia
10	Germany
11	Poland
12	Sweden
13	Belgium
14	Ireland
15	Latvia
16	Kosovo

 

Men's C1 (top 12 at WC)

 

1	Great Britain
2	Spain
3	Czechia
4	Germany
5	Slovenia
6	France
7	Poland
8	Slovakia
9	Italy
10	Croatia
11	Ireland
12	Netherlands
13	Portugal

 

Women's C1 (Top 12)

 

1	Germany
2	Poland
3	Great Britain
4	Czechia
5	Slovakia
6	Slovenia
7	Italy
8	France
9	Andorra
10	Spain
11	Ukraine
12	Switzerland
13	Netherlands
14	Austria
15	Ireland
16	Croatia

 

Women's k1 (Top 15)

 

1	Germany
2	Poland
3	Czech Republic
4	Slovenia
5	Austria
6	Great Britain
7	France
8	Andorra
9	Spain
10	Italy
11	Switzerland
12	Slovakia
13	Netherlands
14	Ukraine
15	Ireland
16	Croatia

 

 

[dodge 1,041]

Only looking at the men's but a repeat of the results at the 2022 World Championships would see the quota go to Sweden (12th) for K1 and Croatia (10th) for C1

 

Ireland is below them in the Euro ranks but finished ahead in the world ranks

 

based on 2022 WC and 2023 EG

 

K1 quotas for men; Czech, Switzerland, GB, Austria, Italy, China, Japan, Australia, Slovakia, Spain, France, Slovenia, Germany, Poland, Ireland, Sweden (EG)

 

C1 quotas for me; GB, Spain, Czechia, Germany, Slovenia, France, Poland, Slovakia, Italy, Switzerland, USA, Ireland, Croatia (EG)