Dunadan 1,103 Posted November 21, 2019 #1161 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Sadly they did not change the scoring criteria and this 10-9 system is not objective enough so there's going to be a lot of alleged scandals...but showing the score at the end of each round is still better than not showing anything at all, and choosing to play differently depending on the current score is a part of every time based sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,566 Posted November 21, 2019 #1162 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Tokyo 2020 unveils 15,000-seat Olympic aquatics centre Swimming, Diving, Artistic Swimming , paraswimming Construction is 90 percent complete , will be ready the next february Benolympique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,702 Posted November 21, 2019 #1163 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Dunadan said: Sadly they did not change the scoring criteria and this 10-9 system is not objective enough so there's going to be a lot of alleged scandals...but showing the score at the end of each round is still better than not showing anything at all, and choosing to play differently depending on the current score is a part of every time based sport. So I've been thinking... Here's my idea. You go back to the pushing button system you had in 2012 and earlier but with some changes. Person who lands most punches in a round gets 20 pounds. If the other fighter lands 1-5 punches less in the round they 19 points. 6-10 punches less they get 18 points. 11-15 fewer punches they 17 and so on. Fighter who gets knocked down loses a point. And the same thing for all three rounds. Would that be better? Assuming that the judges are competent and honest of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,479 Posted November 21, 2019 #1164 Share Posted November 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Dragon said: So I've been thinking... Here's my idea. You go back to the pushing button system you had in 2012 and earlier but with some changes. Person who lands most punches in a round gets 20 pounds. If the other fighter lands 1-5 punches less in the round they 19 points. 6-10 punches less they get 18 points. 11-15 fewer punches they 17 and so on. Fighter who gets knocked down loses a point. And the same thing for all three rounds. Would that be better? Assuming that the judges are competent and honest of course... I’m not sure boxing fans would like that. I don’t know much about Boxing, but I do know it’s more than just landing punches. The problem there’s no clear criteria for scoring, and trying to institute one now, would just further confuse the athletes and spectators. I really think the option at this point is go ahead with its inclusion in these, and then dismiss it from the Olympic sports program. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted November 21, 2019 #1165 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Dragon said: So I've been thinking... Here's my idea. You go back to the pushing button system you had in 2012 and earlier but with some changes. Person who lands most punches in a round gets 20 pounds. If the other fighter lands 1-5 punches less in the round they 19 points. 6-10 punches less they get 18 points. 11-15 fewer punches they 17 and so on. Fighter who gets knocked down loses a point. And the same thing for all three rounds. Would that be better? Assuming that the judges are competent and honest of course... For me yes, it would be better, forcing judges to focus on counting punches, while now the other criteria like "controlling the bout" can be interpreted differently by each judge based on their personal preference (even if they are competent and not corrupted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted November 21, 2019 #1166 Share Posted November 21, 2019 To be fair, boxing is much more than just punch counting. I don't like when sports try to become simple for the mainstream audience, as usually in the process they start to disregard their own stakeholders. NearPup 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,702 Posted December 2, 2019 #1167 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,244 Posted December 3, 2019 #1168 Share Posted December 3, 2019 IOC changed Olympic parade order, with future host nations entering right before the current host, how stupid is that. FFS mrv86 and AlFHg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,214 Posted December 3, 2019 #1169 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I was bored so I tried to see if I can come up with a better system for predicting medals. Places like GraceNote essentially take the top three contenders and give them gold, silver and bronze. That tends to cause situations where a nation with a 50% chance to win say 12 events would be predicted to win 12 medals, but in reality they would only win six. Usually this is masked by the overall medal count, but it becomes apparent if you look at the details for individual sports. Currently my model is quite early in development, it doesn't take into account the maximum athletes per nation in a specific event or the chances of an athlete to fail (DNS/DSQ/DNF etc). It also only currently works for events where you can obtain a score/time/measurement (placing/head to head events will have to wait). Here's a sample of the men's 100m (top 5) that I was using as my test data. Men's 100m Gold - 76.4% - 17.8% - 1.9% - 1.5% - 0.9% Silver - 60.6% - 17.8% - 5.8% - 4.4% - 4.2% Bronze - 46.0% - 14.7% - 9.9% - 7.7% - 6.3% As mentioned above, the United States is currently a bit inflated due to more than three athletes contributing to its chances (removing them manually and redistributing it would give them 73.3%, 53.5% and 38.6% chances respectively). mrv86, Wumo, Dunadan and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted December 4, 2019 #1170 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Torch relay convoy. Benolympique 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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