ChandlerMne 1,037 Posted April 30, 2019 #151 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Even though i respect Caster, decision is easy. Is it fair to discriminate every single girl with normal testosterone level, just because Caster feels she is women? Absurd. Her advantage is probably simmilar to supremacy of 1992 Dream Team over some high school team from Kiribati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,536 Posted April 30, 2019 #152 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Yeah, it's a big decision overall, not only for her and other women with her condition, but for transgender women in general. It's basically asking us to define what a woman is in a sports sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumo 3,001 Posted May 1, 2019 #153 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Media_Release_Semenya_ASA_IAAF_decision.pdf Edited May 1, 2019 by wumo26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerMne 1,037 Posted May 1, 2019 #154 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, wumo26 said: https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Media_Release_Semenya_ASA_IAAF_decision.pdf Pitty for her but good for sport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad 442 Posted May 1, 2019 #155 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Twitter will go crazy, but it's a good decision. ahjfcshfghb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted May 1, 2019 #156 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/48102479 finally, some good decisions for the sport... but I fear that an appeal to ordinary civil court will change that once again... I can smell "discrimination" all around if you look at the question from a not sport-only related point of view... p.s. and the IAAF rule that involves only 400m through 1500m/mile races just sucks...females with male characteristics have a big advantage over any kind of physical activity, therefore they should immediately extend their rules to entire athletics program (and the IOC should embrace that for any sport under any circumstance)... Edited May 1, 2019 by phelps ChandlerMne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniSRB 899 Posted May 1, 2019 #157 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) this is sad, Semenya is woman, she could not choose to be born like that however i am against transgender woman competing with woman as riecently became case in some sports Edited May 1, 2019 by DaniSRB Olympian1010 and Gianlu33 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,971 Posted May 1, 2019 #158 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, wumo26 said: https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Media_Release_Semenya_ASA_IAAF_decision.pdf Sad day for human rights. I blame the European Athletics Federations because their upset that their athletes just don’t have equal talent. If she was a white runner from Europe or the North American this rule wouldn’t have been enforced again. This makes me so sad. Quasit and Xander 2 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlFHg 330 Posted May 1, 2019 #159 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I don't know very much about the situation, that is I don't know if this "alteration" is natural or induced by what would be in practice doping. With this premise, I think that there is a simple way to solve this problem, and is a combination of the so called biological passport and "personalized medicine" (I spent hours yesterday on PubMed looking for some reviews, so please forgive me :D ). My point is that nowadays athlete are (or at least should be) tested for doping multiple times, for the sake not only of the fairness of sport but also and especially for their health. With this, it is going to be easy to understand if this alteration is normal or induced. In the first case, nothing should be done. In the second case, it is in practice use of doping. In the intermediate case of transgender athletes, (but this is really starting to be out of my field of knowledge), the use of hormones should be limited so that a maximum amount cannot be exceeded, otherwise it will be considered as doping. My opinion is that we have all the technical means to do it and this should be done. For what I know, Semenya is not doped and she is as she appears since her birth, so it is a wrong decision. Olympian1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,499 Posted May 1, 2019 #160 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Great decision. Professional sports is not about equal rights, it's about performance. No more Semenya / Niyonsaba Wambui walk in the park! ChandlerMne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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