Vic Liu 1,592 Posted November 28, 2021 #31 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Topicmaster1010 said: Yeah, I did it by NOC. Was it supposed to be by name? I did it by NOC too but we have difference. I don't go through all quotas yet but I always keep on eye on KOR's quotas so I am quite sensitive to our difference. Below is our paper sheet on Men's 500m and KOR is 36th. opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,483 Posted November 28, 2021 #32 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Assuming all the countries in @Topicmaster1010 simulation get quotas, we’ll have the the same number of NOCs qualified for 2022 as in 2018, not counting the IOC invites for 2018. lose representation in the sport, while gain it. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 422 Posted November 28, 2021 #33 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said: Assuming all the countries in @Topicmaster1010 simulation get quotas, we’ll have the the same number of NOCs qualified for 2022 as in 2018, not counting the IOC invites for 2018. lose representation in the sport, while gain it. Yes , unbelievable Handei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,384 Posted November 28, 2021 #34 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Vic Liu said: I did it by NOC too but we have difference. I don't go through all quotas yet but I always keep on eye on KOR's quotas so I am quite sensitive to our difference. Below is our paper sheet on Men's 500m and KOR is 36th. I pretty much just looked at the world cup rankings for each distance and went down the list until I got to the maximum number of skaters allowed in that distance making sure that I only picked 3 for each country. In the men's 500m, the 3rd Korean is ranked 34th but qualifies because both the Netherland's and China have 4 skaters ahead of him. https://shorttrack.sportresult.com/Rankings.aspx?evt=11213100000092&rep=65310 Edit: Oh wait, now I see what you did! You calculated the results for each individual world cup whereas I just looked at the overall ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 2,694 Posted November 28, 2021 #35 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said: Final Short Track Speed Skating Quotas Men Women Mixed Total Quotas NOC 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Mixed Relay Men Women Total Australia 1 1 0 1 Belgium 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 Canada 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Czech Republic 1 0 1 1 France 2 2 2 2 3 2 x 2 3 5 Germany 2 0 2 2 Great Britain 2 1 2 1 1 x 2 2 4 Hong Kong 1 1 0 1 Hungary 3 3 3 x 2 2 2 x 5 2 7 Israel 1 1 1 0 1 Italy 2 2 3 x 3 2 3 x x 5 5 10 Japan 2 2 3 x 1 3 3 x 4 3 7 Kazakhstan 3 1 2 1 1 x 3 2 5 Latvia 1 1 2 2 0 2 Netherlands 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Poland 3 1 2 x 0 4 4 ROC 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 South Korea 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Ukraine 1 1 1 1 2 United States 1 2 3 3 3 2 x x 3 5 8 Total (21 NOC's) 32 32 36 8 32 32 36 8 12 56 56 112 No mens from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalamAkhi 278 Posted November 28, 2021 #36 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said: Final Short Track Speed Skating Quotas Men Women Mixed Total Quotas NOC 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Mixed Relay Men Women Total Australia 1 1 0 1 Belgium 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 Canada 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Czech Republic 1 0 1 1 France 2 2 2 2 3 2 x 2 3 5 Germany 2 0 2 2 Great Britain 2 1 2 1 1 x 2 2 4 Hong Kong 1 1 0 1 Hungary 3 3 3 x 2 2 2 x 5 2 7 Israel 1 1 1 0 1 Italy 2 2 3 x 3 2 3 x x 5 5 10 Japan 2 2 3 x 1 3 3 x 4 3 7 Kazakhstan 3 1 2 1 1 x 3 2 5 Latvia 1 1 2 2 0 2 Netherlands 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Poland 3 1 2 x 0 4 4 ROC 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 South Korea 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Ukraine 1 1 1 1 2 United States 1 2 3 3 3 2 x x 3 5 8 Total (21 NOC's) 32 32 36 8 32 32 36 8 12 56 56 112 Got the exact same total. But the wiki page still displays incomprehensible rankings. I checked and it was the same 4 years ago, they didn't match the qualification WC rankings at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 477 Posted November 29, 2021 #37 Share Posted November 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said: Final Short Track Speed Skating Quotas Men Women Mixed Total Quotas NOC 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Mixed Relay Men Women Total Australia 1 1 0 1 Belgium 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 Canada 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Czech Republic 1 0 1 1 France 2 2 2 2 3 2 x 2 3 5 Germany 2 0 2 2 Great Britain 2 1 2 1 1 x 2 2 4 Hong Kong 1 1 0 1 Hungary 3 3 3 x 2 2 2 x 5 2 7 Israel 1 1 1 0 1 Italy 2 2 3 x 3 2 3 x x 5 5 10 Japan 2 2 3 x 1 3 3 x 4 3 7 Kazakhstan 3 1 2 1 1 x 3 2 5 Latvia 1 1 2 2 0 2 Netherlands 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Poland 3 1 2 x 0 4 4 ROC 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 South Korea 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Ukraine 1 1 1 1 2 United States 1 2 3 3 3 2 x x 3 5 8 Total (21 NOC's) 32 32 36 8 32 32 36 8 12 56 56 112 According to what I counted, there should be also a spot for and 500 m Women's event. But let's see what ISU comes up with. There will surely be some reallocations ..... Pity that men did not qualify anyone cause their appearance at the world cup events was influenced by covid :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,592 Posted November 29, 2021 #38 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Quotas distribution by my friends and my understanding of the document and past experience of 2018 WOG.(mainly credit to @Function CR Lee). Some notes of it: 1. BEL's Mixed relay berth is replaced by 13th POL because only 1 men and 1 women qualified 2. POL got an extra men's quota and KAZ got an extra women's quota to fulfill the minimum mixed relay requirement, ie 2 men and 2 women. 3. POL got an extra women's quota because after procedure 2 still one more women's quota available so it gave to the only women's relay team not full yet. rafalgorka, intoronto, opruh and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted November 29, 2021 #39 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I'm baffled. Aščić is 33rd in the rankings (when counting max 3 per NOC), how can she be in the Top 32 then? Don't give me false hopes guys. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,592 Posted November 29, 2021 #40 Share Posted November 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, dcro said: I'm baffled. Aščić is 33rd in the rankings (when counting max 3 per NOC), how can she be in the Top 32 then? Don't give me false hopes guys. By different calculation method. Let's wait the ISU confirmation then. opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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